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The official COVID-19/Coronavirus Discussion Thread...aka I hope I don't get the Rona

Inori said:
Initially I was hesitant about the side effects. While it's still in the back of my mind it's not the main concern at this stage. My main reservation is because it seems like theyre still trying to figure out how well it works against the variant(s) and there seems to be uncertainty about booster shots in the future. My hesitancy can be directly traced to information being put out saying one thing this week and something completely different the next week.

I understand this is an evolving situation but yeah thats where my hesitancies come from
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Just saw on the news the FDA has approved booster shots for some people. So some people will be getting at least a 3rd shot.
 
B_A said:
.04% of the population contracted covid/delta.
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But only because half of the population is fully vaxxed. If this Delta variant had come through prior to vaccinations, we’d be sitting at double what the numbers were at the height of the pandemic last year. And we’d be in shutdown again.
 
TheNightKing said:
But only because half of the population is fully vaxxed. If this Delta variant had come through prior to vaccinations, we’d be sitting at double what the numbers were at the height of the pandemic last year. And we’d be in shutdown again.
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It's basically the same rates since the beginning, less than 1% infection rate.
 
B_A said:
It's basically the same rates since the beginning, less than 1% infection rate.
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I don’t think a more transmissible variant would result in the same rate, but you’re right that it would be low as a percentage of the total population. Raw numbers would be high though and the rate is 100% for those that get it and are hospitalized and die.
 
TheNightKing said:
I don’t think a more transmissible variant would result in the same rate, but you’re right that it would be low as a percentage of the total population. Raw numbers would be high though and the rate is 100% for those that get it and are hospitalized and die.
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What are you meaning when you say "raw numbers"?
 
B_A said:
What are you meaning when you say "raw numbers"?
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Basically it's like this.

You can't tout percentages of an item when you do not have the necessary required number of participants.

So remember that as of right now barely 50% of all Americans are vaccinated and we know COVID does not have the same effect on vaccinated people that it has on unvaccinated but since we're at best only dealing with 50% of the population when trying to asses the severity of the virus you'll never be able to get the complete picture.



TL;DR

Raw numbers paint a better picture since we're apparently never going to reach the necessary threshold of vaccinated people anytime soon.
 
TheNightKing said:
That’s what I did in my last reply. The actual numbers and not the percentage of the population. If you reference a percentage of a very large number it makes things seem low. If you give the actual numbers you realize it’s actually a lot.
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The percent is low because the actual raw numbers themselves are low. 8-12 sick people per city/town AND village is also quite a low raw number of peole getting sick per city/town/village. They reason they use those 159, 714 numbers it's specifically cuz it looks scarier. Nobody gaf about .04%s
 
B_A said:
So can anyone define the term "raw numbers"?
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Raw numbers or raw data is just data that is collected on a specific study without using any analytics or adding other factors in.

For example. The Ohio State football stadium that is know as The Horseshoe has 104,944 seats. If they announce that the game is a sellout they are using the raw data of the number of tickets sold in reference to the number of seats. If every ticket is sold that is considered a sellout crowd. That does not mean that there is 104,944 people at the game that day. Some people could've brought tickets and not showed up. Regardless of that the game is a sellout if every available ticket is sold thus they will use the raw data of knowing that there are 104,944 seats and report that as a sellout capacity crowd.


How this relates to COVID is this. The easiest way to track the number of COVID deaths is to simply count and keep track of them. That total number is a raw data collection of COVID deaths. You can take that raw data and do whatever you want with it. You can break it down by sex, race, age, whatever. The initial number that you get you got by collecting raw data.
 
B_A said:
The percent is low because the actual raw numbers themselves are low. 8-12 sick people per city/town AND village is also quite a low raw number of peole getting sick per city/town/village. They reason they use those 159, 714 numbers it's specifically cuz it looks scarier. Nobody gaf about .04%s
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That's not how you should look at it.

The raw numbers are not low. They're high.
 
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