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But you don’t. You claimed taxes went up under Biden and they didn’t. Trump’s tax cuts from 2017 expire next year.

So everything you claimed about what you and corporations experienced regarding tax rates was wrong.

And you may not know, but they were once as high as 35%, and those corporations and its employees did just fine.
 
We need to turn this into a learning thread because a lot of people are uninformed on some of the basics. No shame and no judgment, but people shouldn’t base their political views on ignorance of the facts.
 
But you don’t. You claimed taxes went up under Biden and they didn’t. Trump’s tax cuts from 2017 expire next year.

So everything you claimed about what you and corporations experienced regarding tax rates was wrong.

And you may not know, but they were once as high as 35%, and those corporations and its employees did just fine.

Based on research I’ve done I DO KNOW that corporations were taxed

I believe in lower taxes across the board…not an increase because you make more money

If you work in corporations and claim that Biden didn’t increase taxes to corporations then so be it.
 
Based on research I’ve done I DO KNOW that corporations were taxed

I believe in lower taxes across the board…not an increase because you make more money

If you work in corporations and claim that Biden didn’t increase taxes to corporations then so be it.
I’m telling you he didn’t. I’m working for one of the largest corporations in the world as a Director of Accounting and I see the books. I write memos outlining the impact from the taxes we pay.

And I’m telling you, the corporate tax rate has been 21% since 2017.

Then companies use accounting loopholes to pay single digit percentages in tax or none at all.
 
I’m telling you he didn’t. I’m working for one of the largest corporations in the world as a Director of Accounting and I see the books. I write memos outlining the impact from the taxes we pay.

And I’m telling you, the corporate tax rate has been 21% since 2017.

Then companies use accounting loopholes to pay single digit percentages in tax or none at all.

Ok so being that you work in corporations are/were you aware of the plans both Trump and Harris had in regards to taxes? Tell me your thoughts on that
 
I don’t see what’s wrong with this

Under Biden my taxes were through the roof…because the corporations were being taxed higher as well

A lot of people agree that tax cuts on corporations benefit workers

When minimum wage went up…so did everything else.

The numbers changed but the cost worsened

Keep in mind I’m from NY
You need to leave that hellhole immediately. My life is so much better for it... I can afford rent AND food :clawd2:
 
My take is that the federal government shouldn’t be involved in people’s sex life, educational choices, healthcare, marital decisions or any ideologies that people believe others should follow

People have to take control over their own counties and states and establish their own laws…this is why we have different levels of government instead of one

Let the federal issues be held by the president and civilian issues be held by the people who govern that community

Anyone who looks towards a president to handle any and every civilian issue is setting themselves for disappointment and pandering

Nobody is looking for a president to handle every civilian issue. But certain rights shouldn't disappear just because you cross a state line. Also for you to previously sat you'd most likely vote Republican or Independent over Dem...the sentiment you just expressed is something Republicans definitely disagree with. The definitely want the federal government to control the things you don't want them too
 
Bro…this is going to be an endless back and forth over who we think is lying

The question is…who ISNT lying?

All of us are literally taking these politicians at face value without any guarantee on how they are really going to do things.

That’s why I didn’t vote this year….but I knew Trump was going to win because Dems have a way of being sketchy and using sketchy tactics


I don’t see Project 2025 as EVER happening

Because not all republicans favor it and not all conservatives are the same.

You dont seem to realize you're falling for the same shit you're accusing others of. Dems using sketchy tactics meanwhile Trump is literally on the phone asking for more votes so he coulda won in 2020. You're literally ignoring all the foul shit associated with him just to say "Dems are bad too".

There's already been a Trump presidency so we have literal evidence of how he's tried to move with that level of power. You've already seen how he moves with folks who don't bow to him. And given that the rest of that party are too scared to challenge him even if they don't agree you can bet that, and as those around him have said, the plan is already set to go.
 
the sentiment you just expressed is something Republicans definitely disagree with. The definitely want the federal government to control the things you don't want them too

I can respectfully disagree with what you said

As ive stated multiple times…political parties doesn’t mean all sentiments are the same and shared

I look at policies more than parties…and I’ve met many republicans who would share my sentiments while there would be others who didnt

Some people are extremists and others are more moderate
 
I can respectfully disagree with what you said

As ive stated multiple times…political parties doesn’t mean all sentiments are the same and shared

I look at policies more than parties…and I’ve met many republicans who would share my sentiments while there would be others who didnt

Some people are extremists and others are more moderate

You can't blame everything on those extremists unless you wanna say the vast majority fall under that because they tend to align together quite often. Republican moderate and extremists are and have been very loud for quite a while about how they want the federal government to control things when it's in their favor. Or have you already forgotten 2020 with the quick switch from "i don't want a law saying wear a mask" to "i want a law saying no vaccine"?

And the fact that when it relates to abortions there were already trigger laws in place restricting everything from abortions to attempts at restricting contraceptives themselves and criminalized miscarriages you're also wrong in that Republicans arent pushing and voting for these things
 
You can't blame everything on those extremists unless you wanna say the vast majority fall under that because they tend to align together quite often. Republican moderate and extremists are and have been very loud for quite a while about how they want the federal government to control things when it's in their favor. Or have you already forgotten 2020 with the quick switch from "i don't want a law saying wear a mask" to "i want a law saying no vaccine"?

And the fact that when it relates to abortions there were already trigger laws in place restricting everything from abortions to attempts at restricting contraceptives themselves and criminalized miscarriages you're also wrong in that Republicans arent pushing and voting for these things

lol ok
 
Ok so being that you work in corporations are/were you aware of the plans both Trump and Harris had in regards to taxes? Tell me your thoughts on that
Yes and I was fine with Kamala’s plan to tax corporations at a higher rate and lower my tax rate. I get paid a salary regardless of how the company does. But trust and believe, my company and almost all companies will be just fine.

Not sure why you’re crashing out for corporations.
 
Let's not. Part of reason we are in this hot ass mess is because not enough people pay attention to politics until it's time for the presidential election. That's why people vote based on feelings and excitement instead of policy...
Partially but even still, most people that voted for Trump knows they not voting for him for the reasons they say about the economy. It's representation, it's pride, etc. When people talk about what he's done or can do for America in a positive manner, they all but lie because they're not gonna outright say "his hatred is why I fuck with him". This is the lie they tell their non right friends and family.
 
Let's not. Part of reason we are in this hot ass mess is because not enough people pay attention to politics until it's time for the presidential election. That's why people vote based on feelings and excitement instead of policy...
 
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