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LayZ25 said:
You do realize all of us have access to google right? Just as an example if you google polling info right now and go to BBC's website their polling averages show Trump ahead in every swing state outside of Michigan and tied in Wisconsin. This isn't a "Trump is def gonna win" take. It is a "you are blind and bias if you really see a Kamala route". There is not one piece of evidence pointing to that outcome. There are other polls that show similar results. Point is, you can't just look at one poll or one piece of data. CNN is the place that talked about the popular vote being very close.

And no, I didn't fuck up. As I said, the betting markets can be wrong but it is another data point to look at it and what seemingly everyone outside of you knows is a very close race.

I really need to see some sources for your info because it is the exact opposite of what I find when I google and read around multiple sources. Kamala is doing worse than almost everyone before her amongst minority groups. Trump wins 53 times out of 100 according to fivethirtyeight. Forbes has a pretty good breakdown of recent polls and they start the article with "Vice President Kamala Harris has a slight lead over former President Donald Trump in the four most recent national polls—but most surveys show a virtual dead-heat contest for the White House and close races in all seven swing states, keeping the race wildly unpredictable just one week before Election Day."

Their paragraph on swing states is "Harris leads in Michigan and Wisconsin, and Trump leads in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia and Arizona; they’re tied in Nevada, according to the Silver Bulletin. Most of the seven swing states have margins of less than one percentage point."

So I offer Forbes, CNN, BBC, and fivethirtyeight. Your proof is you are "out there".
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Show me a single post from the Trump campaign that's delivering this type of information about the state of his campaign?

Why hasn't Trump been pushing data like this?

It's because......................................

He's losing...........

 
Kamala Harris is outperforming 2020 Biden with Black women by 8 points

Kamala Harris is outperforming 2020 Biden with Black men by 14 points

Kamala Harris is outperforming 2020 Biden with All women by 14 points

That's a blowout my niggas

Listen too me...................................

This is no longer about if Kamala will win. She will. This is now about how much she will embarrass Trump. Tuesday is looking like an early night. Stop denying teh data that is already out there. The early voting is right there my niggas. She's whopping his ass early and in a race that was supposed to be close, Trump absolutely cannot afford to dig himself out of a hole.

That's where we're at.

Right now on Wednesday October 30th, 2024, Kamala Harris is beating Trump handedly. Meaning, the early vote data that is OFFICIAL, has her ahead by a lot.

 
Los216 said:
Show me a single post from the Trump campaign that's delivering this type of information about the state of his campaign?

Why hasn't Trump been pushing data like this?

It's because......................................

He's losing...........
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Again, we all have google. If you listen to Trump in interviews he thinks they are crushing but is that even relevant with the amount he brags? Nobody would even remotely consider it a valid data point coming from Trumps camp. Look, to be clear you could end up being right. My point is that if you are you are literally the only person with that take and it is backed by nothing. So you should be sending out resumes to both sides seeing how much they will pay you to guide them through elections.

I can't find a single source that says a landslide either way and usually you get some bias on both sides where you could find one or two anomaly's. I believe there was one guy who said he could see either one of them sweeping the swing states but again, that means a landslide for either side, not specifically Kamala.

Just to add a little to it simply off of "feel". You have multiple news papers doing the non endorsement thing right now. Guys like Anderson Cooper actually pressing her in her Town Hall instead of giving her the typical softball interview or the media over hyping her or protecting her like they did initially. So for me I ask myself why they would be doing that. The only thing I can come up with is it is a business decision to gain credibility and not look as bad as they have the past however many years. If they thought Kamala was rolling they would just throw the whole machine behind her like they did for Hillary and Biden but instead they are distancing themselves. That way if Trump wins they can say "yeah we saw this is a very real possibility". If they thought he was getting trounced I don't think they would be doing this. Nothing I can prove obviously, but just my feel.

Add to that just about every poll being close, betting markets in Trumps favor (to reiterate, I don't think they are any more accurate than other data points), and her losing ground in certain demographics and I just don't see the early night for her. My stance is I wouldn't confidently bet either side of it. I was just shocked to see someone think Kamala was going to roll.
 
LayZ25 said:
Again, we all have google. If you listen to Trump in interviews he thinks they are crushing but is that even relevant with the amount he brags? Nobody would even remotely consider it a valid data point coming from Trumps camp. Look, to be clear you could end up being right. My point is that if you are you are literally the only person with that take and it is backed by nothing. So you should be sending out resumes to both sides seeing how much they will pay you to guide them through elections.

I can't find a single source that says a landslide either way and usually you get some bias on both sides where you could find one or two anomaly's. I believe there was one guy who said he could see either one of them sweeping the swing states but again, that means a landslide for either side, not specifically Kamala.

Just to add a little to it simply off of "feel". You have multiple news papers doing the non endorsement thing right now. Guys like Anderson Cooper actually pressing her in her Town Hall instead of giving her the typical softball interview or the media over hyping her or protecting her like they did initially. So for me I ask myself why they would be doing that. The only thing I can come up with is it is a business decision to gain credibility and not look as bad as they have the past however many years. If they thought Kamala was rolling they would just throw the whole machine behind her like they did for Hillary and Biden but instead they are distancing themselves. That way if Trump wins they can say "yeah we saw this is a very real possibility". If they thought he was getting trounced I don't think they would be doing this. Nothing I can prove obviously, but just my feel.

Add to that just about every poll being close, betting markets in Trumps favor (to reiterate, I don't think they are any more accurate than other data points), and her losing ground in certain demographics and I just don't see the early night for her. My stance is I wouldn't confidently bet either side of it. I was just shocked to see someone think Kamala was going to roll.
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You're a right winger.

If you don't think that you are then you need to really look within yourself and re-evaluate how you consume information.

Respectfully.
 
I'm convinced that a lot of Black men feel seen by consuming Republican propaganda. That's not the attention you want my nigga.
 
Los216 said:
You're a right winger.

If you don't think that you are then you need to really look within yourself and re-evaluate how you consume information.

Respectfully.
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Libertarian who has never voted actually. I tend to consider myself more of an objective observer. I am curious, where should I be getting my information outside of using just about every source available I can find and how should I be consuming it? Just as another example since no source or piece of information seems acceptable to you. NBC News website has a nice layout for early voting information. I only looked at the swing states but if you just split early voting down party lines (as in registered to either side who have cast early votes). Here are the results right now:

Trump ahead - Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina
Harris ahead - Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania

Now this assumes people registered to one side aren't crossing party lines but no way to tell from their data.
 
LayZ25 said:
Libertarian who has never voted actually. I tend to consider myself more of an objective observer. I am curious, where should I be getting my information outside of using just about every source available I can find and how should I be consuming it? Just as another example since no source or piece of information seems acceptable to you. NBC News website has a nice layout for early voting information. I only looked at the swing states but if you just split early voting down party lines (as in registered to either side who have cast early votes). Here are the results right now:

Trump ahead - Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina
Harris ahead - Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania

Now this assumes people registered to one side aren't crossing party lines but no way to tell from their data.
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You're not a Libertarian. You are a right winger. You can stand on being a Libertarian if you want but there's no evidence that you are viewing this from any position other than a right wing consumer.

You're not being an objective observer. Maybe this slick talk can work on niggas that don't vote or actually pay attention to politics but that shit won't work here.

I think most of the people on this site are smart enough to see through your objective bullshit.

Don't trip though, you can still come and kick it with us on Tuesday. We just won't let you get the aux. You don't get to pick the songs after you sat in the back seat hating on what you were hearing. You gone sit there and listen to us bang out our hits on this long ride my nigga.
 
Los216 said:
You're not a Libertarian. You are a right winger. You can stand on being a Libertarian if you want but there's no evidence that you are viewing this from any position other than a right wing consumer.

You're not being an objective observer. Maybe this slick talk can work on niggas that don't vote or actually pay attention to politics but that shit won't work here.

I think most of the people on this site are smart enough to see through your objective bullshit.

Don't trip though, you can still come and kick it with us on Tuesday. We just won't let you get the aux. You don't get to pick the songs after you sat in the back seat hating on what you were hearing. You gone sit there and listen to us bang out our hits on this long ride my nigga.
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Whatever you say man. Your bias is clear but if you are happy with that do you. Great thing about being a libertarian is I don't care. You are allowed to have your takes regardless of how ignorant.
 
D listers. That's always been Trump's MO though. He himself was a D list celebrity that always wanted to fit in with the cool guys.

 
LayZ25 said:
Whatever you say man. Your bias is clear but if you are happy with that do you. Great thing about being a libertarian is I don't care. You are allowed to have your takes regardless of how ignorant.
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It's not bias. I'm just not a right winger consuming propaganda and trying to inject and justify that bullshit into everything else that I am "observing"


Also,

You lying your ass off saying that you don't care being a Libertarian.

One of the biggest misconceptions with politics is people who call themselves Libertarians, moderates, observers, or any other hollow description they come up with is that they work their asses off trying to convince people that they don't care but not caring is what their entire persona is built around.

You do care. A lot.

In fact, those types of people care more than the average Democrat or Republican. They crave a sense of belonging so they cling to the idea of being an outsider when the whole time they really wanna get in the club.

It's cool. You can get in the club (depending on which side you're on because Republicans....) but what are you gonna do when you get in there? You ain't gonna dance and you ain't on shit. Y'all niggas just wanna be in the spot and you want that acknowledgement. It's embarrassing.

There's plenty of niggas that go to the club and are able to function without trying to Center (#Bars) themselves.

Some niggas just can't do that and it eats them up inside from the outside (#Bars)

I'm spitting right for real lololololololololololol
 
Los216 said:
It's not bias. I'm just not a right winger consuming propaganda and trying to inject and justify that bullshit into everything else that I am "observing"


Also,

You lying your ass off saying that you don't care being a Libertarian.

One of the biggest misconceptions with politics is people who call themselves Libertarians, moderates, observers, or any other hollow description they come up with is that they work their asses off trying to convince people that they don't care but not caring is what their entire persona is built around.

You do care. A lot.

In fact, those types of people care more than the average Democrat or Republican. They crave a sense of belonging so they cling to the idea of being an outsider when the whole time they really wanna get in the club.

It's cool. You can get in the club (depending on which side you're on because Republicans....) but what are you gonna do when you get in there? You ain't gonna dance and you ain't on shit. Y'all niggas just wanna be in the spot and you want that acknowledgement. It's embarrassing.

There's plenty of niggas that go to the club and are able to function without trying to Center (#Bars) themselves.

Some niggas just can't do that and it eats them up inside from the outside (#Bars)

I'm spitting right for real lololololololololololol
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It's clearly bias. I mean it is exactly what people on sides do. They project their deficiencies on other people. You sound absurd. I am literally reading every poll. CNN, NBC, FTE, etc. I guess I missed the part where all of those places turned into Fox News. I give you multiple polls, multiple sources and you give me tweets. I'd be happy to put my credibility against yours.

And no, I really don't care much which is why I am just now posting. Saw the constant nonsensical echo of fascism being thrown around and decided to speak on that one specific topic. Once again just like with google, we have my post history to fact check you. I ain't in here daily screaming about politics. You really are just like the media. Spouting bullshit, forgetting every person here has a computer in their pocket. Unless everyone in here is illiterate, it is pretty easy to check you on it.
 
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