The Official 2018/2019 Football/Soccer Thread

[CeLLar-DooR]

So I'm clear, the non Man Utd fans think Jose's attitude, comments and mood leading into a new season are acceptable?

 

[figo]

AHA! It all makes sense now. I understand your allegiance to Mourinho for bringing Inter their first European Cup for nearly 50 years BUT this is not the same version of Mourinho.

Just like Wenger WAS great and lost it, just like Brian Clough WAS great and lost it, so I believe we are seeing the same with Jose. The game has passed him by and he has not/cannot adapt. It happens to the best (apart from Fergie). Believe me I was delighted at Mourinho's appointment but now I see he is a shell of what he was. Frankly he looks depressed.

I disagree. Wenger failure was due to he not taking a stronger stance on the board of arsenal. He continued to sign mediocre players watch you guys, Chelsea and city attract better talented footballers. He also passed up on gems, kante is one of them. Mourinho won the league 2 seasons ago.
The game haven’t passed him at all. As a long time fan of his playbook, most the players at his disposal is not his type of players at Man U.

 

[Mrman]

So I'm clear, the non Man Utd fans think Jose's attitude, comments and mood leading into a new season are acceptable?

It seems that's what they think....as long as it's to United and not their club. They'll say they would be fine with it at their club...until they have Mourinho there and doing the same thing.

 

[Mrman]

I disagree. Wenger failure was due to he not taking a stronger stance on the board of arsenal. He continued to sign mediocre players watch you guys, Chelsea and city attract better talented footballers. He also passed up on gems, kante is one of them. Mourinho won the league 2 seasons ago.
The game haven’t passed him at all. As a long time fan of his playbook, most the players at his disposal is not his type of players at Man U.

I don't think the tactical side of the game passed Wenger by much like I don't think that has passed Mourinho by.
The man-management side of the game has DEFINITELY passed Mourinho by as he thinks the stuff he did to his players via the media over the past decade and a half is still guaranteed to work and motivate his players.
For Wenger, his players continued to take advantage of him imo.

 

[figo]

So I'm clear, the non Man Utd fans think Jose's attitude, comments and mood leading into a new season are acceptable?

Come on cellar, you keep focusing on attitude and not the root for it. You guys starting to sound like that chick and that fassy dj Akademiks on Everyday Struggle that attack Russ for he being who he is without understanding the man foundation. Give the man the resources he wants, you will get trophies. And that is towards Ed

 

[Mrman]

Lukaku delivered last season. Had a couple trash games but Pogba had way more cesspit water performances. Pep broke the transfer window in money spent at city. Nothing is being made up.

Mourinho is a winner every where he went. My squad is inter Milan. I respect the work he did at Chelsea and all the other clubs, especially to African players. Team comes first before anything else, peep etoo at inter Milan or makelele at Chelsea.

I been following the premiere league since the 90s. Dwight York open up Man U to the Caribbean market.

Mourinho's player purchases have been a mixed bag. Lukaku and Matic were good overall. Lindelof and Pogs not so much.
When it comes to African players... I LOVE Mourinho way more than Fergie or Pep. Mourinho and Wenger have done more for the African players they've coached than a lot of other great managers.
But we can also acknowledge that the way he goes about things in year 3 is a pattern and does not endear him to his players anymore.

 

[Mrman]

Univision also has UEFA CL and EL rights and matches will be on their Univision Deportes network as opposed to behind some streaming service paywall. So if you're alright watching with Spanish commentary then Univision might be the one to watch

http://worldsoccertalk.com/2017/08/...ns-league-viewers-turned-off-turners-paywall/

In light of the announcement by Turner Sports where 80% of Champions League and Europa League games won’t be available on television beginning with the 2018/19 season, Univision Deportes is poised to attract English-language soccer fans who will watch games in Spanish to avoid having to pay the subscription fee to access Turner’s paid streaming service.

As the Spanish-language network has shown in its coverage of the World Cup, Liga MX and MLS, they are able to utilize multiple channels and social media platforms to increase the availability and accessibility for matches. Most importantly, Univision has also been able to garner a lot of English-speaking soccer fans who have gravitated to their coverage even when games are available in English.

While Turner Sports hasn’t made any decisions regarding who they will hire as commentators, analysts or presenters, we do know that Univision Deportes has a long history of understanding the passion and culture of soccer fans in the United States, no matter what language they speak.

“Soccer is the lifeblood of our community and we plan to serve our soccer fans in a way that allows for them to bring that passion to life on all platforms,” said a spokeswoman for Univision Deportes. “We have more soccer rights than any other U.S. media company along with the best teams in the world on the best multi platforms – all of which make UCI the undisputed home of soccer.” HomeLeagues: Champions LeagueUnivision Deportes poised to attract Champions League viewers turned off by Turner’s paywall
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In light of the announcement by Turner Sports where 80% of Champions League and Europa League games won’t be available on television beginning with the 2018/19 season, Univision Deportes is poised to attract English-language soccer fans who will watch games in Spanish to avoid having to pay the subscription fee to access Turner’s paid streaming service.

As the Spanish-language network has shown in its coverage of the World Cup, Liga MX and MLS, they are able to utilize multiple channels and social media platforms to increase the availability and accessibility for matches. Most importantly, Univision has also been able to garner a lot of English-speaking soccer fans who have gravitated to their coverage even when games are available in English.

While Turner Sports hasn’t made any decisions regarding who they will hire as commentators, analysts or presenters, we do know that Univision Deportes has a long history of understanding the passion and culture of soccer fans in the United States, no matter what language they speak.

“Soccer is the lifeblood of our community and we plan to serve our soccer fans in a way that allows for them to bring that passion to life on all platforms,” said a spokeswoman for Univision Deportes. “We have more soccer rights than any other U.S. media company along with the best teams in the world on the best multi platforms – all of which make UCI the undisputed home of soccer.”



Considering that none of the Europa League games will be on television via Turner except for the final, if UEFA Europa League games are shown live on Univision Deportes network, this could significantly impact the bottom line for Turner Sports when it attempts to sell its OTT sports platform to soccer fans. This could prove to be a gateway for Univision’s networks, particularly Univision Deportes, to gain new viewers among English-language dominant soccer fans.

Given the emphasis Univision places on the sport of soccer and the types of personalities they have broadcasting the matches, the decision by Turner to place about half the UEFA Champions League matches and all but one of the matches in UEFA Europa League behind a paywall is a massive opportunity for the network.

Univision’s target audience has expanded to including English-language dominant individuals and the millennial bilingual audience. It’s that millennial audience that Turner plans on targeting with its efforts That could prove a boon to Univision who may find that the availability of their products including via streaming services such as fuboTV, DIRECTV NOW and Sling TV may give them a leg up on trying to compete for that audience that might prefer to watch matches in English but does understand Spanish.

 

[CeLLar-DooR]

In my opinion, Jose caused a lot of the issues we had last season by over-complicatin' the games against weaker opposition. Sevilla is a perfect example but then every loss or draw to a team we're stronger than last season was because we sat back.

Again against Chelsea, they'd played average all season so why give them momentum and let them play in a final, of all things?

Jose needs to buck his ideas up. If we get a RW that'd mean the team from midfield to striker are all his players so I don't wanna hear excuses.

Lastly, looks like Rashford should prepare for another season on the bench and Lingard is probably gonna have to fight his way in again. Wouldn't surprise me if they both wanted out this time next year

 

[Mrman]

Come on cellar, you keep focusing on attitude and not the root for it. You guys starting to sound like that chick and that fassy dj Akademiks on Everyday Struggle that attack Russ for he being who he is without understanding the man foundation. Give the man the resources he wants, you will get trophies. And that is towards Ed

So no blame whatsoever for Jose is what you're saying?
How much in resources every single season?
So if he doesn't get the resources he wants then he should be free to throw tantrums all day every day until he gets it?

 

[figo]

I don't think the tactical side of the game passed Wenger by much like I don't think that has passed Mourinho by.
The man-management side of the game has DEFINITELY passed Mourinho by as he thinks the stuff he did to his players via the media over the past decade and a half is still guaranteed to work and motivate his players.
For Wenger, his players continued to take advantage of him imo.

True, they took advantage of wenger, but they can’t against Mourinho! I wonder why? Time has change but most of these new players suffers from the “favoritism flu”. Wenger lapse big time on his squad for years. Emery wouldn’t let that happen.

Everybody can’t be a chief. Most of you guys talk about putting the badge first, not much does that on the pitch for man u because a lot of them lack quality.

 

[dasmooth1]

I disagree. Wenger failure was due to he not taking a stronger stance on the board of arsenal. He continued to sign mediocre players watch you guys, Chelsea and city attract better talented footballers. He also passed up on gems, kante is one of them. Mourinho won the league 2 seasons ago.
The game haven’t passed him at all. As a long time fan of his playbook, most the players at his disposal is not his type of players at Man U.

LOL what manager can take on the board of his club and win? The board runs the club the manager is just in charge of the team. Wenger was in no position to do anything. If Kroenke wasn't freeing up the funds then there was nothing he could do. Tactically Wenger could not adapt. His sides could always play football (though I argue that in his last year or two even Arsenal's football wasn't very good) but he could not switch up and make his team hard to beat with a resilient defence post 2004. All managers pass up on players they should have bought. Wenger wasn't special in that regard, he just had the biggest mouth when it came to saying he could have had Zlatan, Ronaldo etc.

The game has passed Mourinho by. Since Pep's Barca side the high press has become more prevalent and now the best sides to watch in the PL (City, Liverpool, Tottenham) all adopt that style. They take the game to teams which is not what United do. Now with Sarri's Chelsea that is another team who will play with an energetic style that Mourinho cannot/will not get his team to play. Yes United finished above those teams (apart from City) but the way we ended last season is not the way we started it.

I think we will make top 4 just about but I don't see a title challenge. I think City winning, Pep winning and Pep winning with City in an attractive style is a combination that is too much for him to take.

 

[figo]

So no blame whatsoever for Jose is what you're saying?
How much in resources every single season?
So if he doesn't get the resources he wants then he should be free to throw tantrums all day every day until he gets it?

He deserves some criticism, of course he does. Taking Manchester United to 2nd place will always deserve some sort of criticism. Some of the games was very poor to. The players did what the can with there qualities and tactical decisions given by Mourinho.
At the end of the day, he like having a solid defense throughout his career. Bailey fits that bill. Lindelf a work in progress. The others is getting pass there prime.

I don’t see a snjieder type creative player yet on Man U, in a long time, Or hazard. Pogba had pirlo at Juventus.
On the wing, nobody really. Martial is a bonafide strong average tuh bloodcleet.
And Ed haven’t brought in none of Jose wish list, yet

 

[Northside7]

If they win the PL or CL or both, they'll sing all kinds of songs about him.

 

[Mrman]

True, they took advantage of wenger, but they can’t against Mourinho! I wonder why? Time has change but most of these new players suffers from the “favoritism flu”. Wenger lapse big time on his squad for years. Emery wouldn’t let that happen.

Everybody can’t be a chief. Most of you guys talk about putting the badge first, not much does that on the pitch for man u because a lot of them lack quality.

Man...there are plenty of managerial types in between a nice guy manager like Wenger and a mind-games, throw shade at you all day manager like Mourinho. It's possible to not be on either extreme.

So what players on United lack the quality to play for a side that is a legit title contender? Phil Jones? Chris Smalling? I could dig that but then I remember you wrote this

All those players was bonafide footballers. They wasn’t scrubs at all. They all can start on this current Manchester United squad, including Chadwick, well he will warm the bench, but still. None of them needed to babied like you guys want.
Even though it took Ferguson 4 years to make Man U a formidable team, he got the necessary support from the board in those da

about players like David May, Quinton Fortune and Ronnie Wallwork.
If you think those players were "bonafide footballers" and not scrubs at all then Phil Jones and Chris Smalling must be absolute master footballers!

 

[figo]

LOL what manager can take on the board of his club and win? The board runs the club the manager is just in charge of the team. Wenger was in no position to do anything. If Kroenke wasn't freeing up the funds then there was nothing he could do. Tactically Wenger could not adapt. His sides could always play football (though I argue that in his last year or two even Arsenal's football wasn't very good) but he could not switch up and make his team hard to beat with a resilient defence post 2004. All managers pass up on players they should have bought. Wenger wasn't special in that regard, he just had the biggest mouth when it came to saying he could have had Zlatan, Ronaldo etc.

The game has passed Mourinho by. Since Pep's Barca side the high press has become more prevalent and now the best sides to watch in the PL (City, Liverpool, Tottenham) all adopt that style. They take the game to teams which is not what United do. Now with Sarri's Chelsea that is another team who will play with an energetic style that Mourinho cannot/will not get his team to play. Yes United finished above those teams (apart from City) but the way we ended last season is not the way we started it.

I think we will make top 4 just about but I don't see a title challenge. I think City winning, Pep winning and Pep winning with City in an attractive style is a combination that is too much for him to take.

Hopefully city don’t win a damn thing but again, let’s not forget city is spending for pep. Big Spending in every position.

 

[Mrman]

If they win the PL or CL or both, they'll sing all kinds of songs about him.

Have either of those happened?

If any manager wins either of those or both, the fans of their club would do the same.
If Allardyce or Moyes won the PL, FA CUP or even the EFL CUP, you don't think Everton or West Ham fans would have been singing songs about the greatness of both managers?

Winning cures all. We all know that. If you win then issues can be swept aside. If you lose then of course what happens will happen.

 

[figo]

Man...there are plenty of managerial types in between a nice guy manager like Wenger and a mind-games, throw shade at you all day manager like Mourinho. It's possible to not be on either extreme.

So what players on United lack the quality to play for a side that is a legit title contender? Phil Jones? Chris Smalling? I could dig that but then I remember you wrote this


about players like David May, Quinton Fortune and Ronnie Wallwork.
If you think those players were "bonafide footballers" and not scrubs at all then Phil Jones and Chris Smalling must be absolute master footballers!

I was always a fan of fortune. The opportunity Ferguson give him, I thought he delivered. Chris and Phil days are definitely limited. Nobody fairs those 2 anymore.

 

[Blue_London]

@toheeb27 @Northside7 you going to watch the match?

 

[Northside7]

@toheeb27 @Northside7 you going to watch the match?

Yes! We should be putting out a strong squad against a top flight PL team. Hopefully at least lol.

I need to see how the new signings play and if there's any improvement on the defensive end.

 

[Water Ur Seeds]

All those players was bonafide footballers. They wasn’t scrubs at all. They all can start on this current Manchester United squad, including Chadwick, well he will warm the bench, but still. None of them needed to babied like you guys want.
Even though it took Ferguson 4 years to make Man U a formidable team, he got the necessary support from the board in those days.

You and other people were saying that Fergie left the team in a state when he retired??? But you saying players like Chadwick and Wallwork etc wernt scrubs, bro most the average players I named went on to play for mid level teams, got relegated or played in the lower divisions after they left United, Chadwick I think spent most of career on loan and ended up at Cambridge I think it was, and Ronnie Wallwork prolly ended up captain playing for 'Her Majesties Service' football team after getting nicked in some stollen car ring I think it was lol