The 2020 Presidential Election Thread: Joe Biden is the 46th President of the United States

[Mister]

Of course he didn’t have to do so when he did. That was his decision.

He and his team presumably believed it would give Biden the best chance to beat Trump and perhaps extract the most progressive concessions from Biden’s team.

Again why does it matter when he endorsed him?

AND “personal gain” not just “gain”

What did Bernie personally gain from endorsing Biden?

You claimed he endorsed him because of pledges signed. Those pledges apply to the nominee, not candidates. Biden is not the nominee yet. That's why it matters when. But you know that.

You made the claim without provocation. This was your doing.

What did Bernie gain by endorsing Biden? A seat at the table with Biden. Did you miss the tweets about their teams working together? Biden hasn't even been officially named the nominee. Is Bernie expecting more down the line, I'm sure that he is. And you'd be a lie if you say you don't think that's true.

 

[Mister]

You haven’t answered the questions I asked.

- If Joe Biden went on TV tomorrow and admitted to the rape, will you vote for Trump in November?

- In that scenario, do you think all Democrats should stay home and let Trump be President?

- Would that be the the integral thing to do?

Your comprehension is lacking today. Read the post you quoted again and see if you can find your answer to those questions.

*Hint* It's above the definition of corrupt.

 

[Peace_79]

But you just claimed you made no allegation in your last post. So which is it? Either you "admitted to being wrong about you saying that what I thought you said - three times" or there was no allegation. Make it make sense, man.

Why didn't they specifically use the word "endorse" if that's what's required from all who signed? Especially on a legal document. You've decided that the wording requires for the signee to endorse thr eventually nominee because it would help your argument. No more, no less. But you won't admit that either.

So now you heard "from reporting" that it is legally enforceable? Convenient. I'm still going to need that proof of your claim. Or you can just admit you jumped out the window. But you won't.

You are truly entertaining.

Allege -


1 to assert without proof

2 to declare with positiveness; affirm; assert: to allege a fact.

3 to declare before a court or elsewhere, as if under oath.


Declare - If you declare that something is true, you say that it is true in a firm, deliberate way.




My Statement:

“... if memory serves - you and others actually claimed the opposite. That he was wrong for being “too mean” and “aggressive” against the political establishment."


“if memory serves” : used for saying that you think you have remembered something correctly.



Does that sound like a “firm”, “deliberate”, “positive” “assertion” - the likes of which might be made in the “court of law”?

Or did I believe (mistakenly or otherwise) that you said something in the past.

And come to a conclusion that was conditional on you having said that thing?

 

[Mister]

Allege -


1 to assert without proof

2 to declare with positiveness; affirm; assert: to allege a fact.

3 to declare before a court or elsewhere, as if under oath.


Declare - If you declare that something is true, you say that it is true in a firm, deliberate way.




My Statement:

“... if memory serves - you and others actually claimed the opposite. That he was wrong for being “too mean” and “aggressive” against the political establishment."


“if memory serves” : used for saying that you think you have remembered something correctly.



Does that sound like a “firm”, “deliberate”, “positive” “assertion” - the likes of which might be made in the “court of law”?

Or did I believe (mistakenly or otherwise) that you said something in the past.

And come to a conclusion that was conditional on you having said that thing?

"If memory serves-" doesn't stop the allegation following it, from being an allegation. You're hilarious.

When I told you that I hadn't said it and for you to prove that I did, why didn't you just say something like, "I didn't remember if it was you or not that's why I started with 'If memory serves'", instead of trying to tell me what I was "effectively" saying by denying that I said what was alleged to begin with?

And why admit to being wrong "three times" if there was no allegation to be wrong about? It's not adding up, champ. Try again. Put a little more effort into the next spin move. Give it some flair!

 

[Peace_79]

Your comprehension is lacking today. Read the post you quoted again and see if you can find your answer to those questions.

*Hint* It's above the definition of corrupt.

Still waiting for you to answer these questions. Thanks

 

[Mister]

Still waiting for you to answer these questions. Thanks

So we've reached the point of playing dumb...

Just let it go, young fella. Your pride isn't worth it.

 

[Peace_79]

"If memory serves-" doesn't stop the allegation following it, from being an allegation. You're hilarious.

When I told you that I hadn't said it and for you to prove that I did, why didn't you just say something like, "I didn't remember if it was you or not that's why I started with 'If memory serves'", instead of trying to tell me what I was "effectively" saying by denying that I said what was alleged to begin with?

And why admit to being wrong "three times" if there was no allegation to be wrong about? It's not adding up, champ. Try again. Put a little more effort into the next spin move. Give it some flair!

YES it does.

It is not an allegation if I am not firmly and positively asserting it.

USA Today - Attempted Murder Allegation:

“If memory serves correctly; John Doe attempted to murder me”

Said no one ever.


When I told you that I hadn't said it and for you to prove that I did, why didn't you just say something like, "I didn't remember if it was you or not that's why I started with 'If memory serves'"


Because that is LITERALLY what that phrase means. I didn’t think I had to spell it out for you.

Why admit to being wrong?

Because I was wrong in my belief that you said that statement.

But because you were rage posting and obsessing about it for an entire page; claiming that “I wasn’t man enough to admit I was wrong” ...

I figured I would remind you that you were arguing about nothing. And maybe we could get back to the substance of the conversation

 

[Mister]

YES it does.

It is not an allegation if I am not firmly and positively asserting it.

USA Today - Attempted Murder Allegation:

“If memory serves; John Doe attempted to murder me”

Said no one ever.


When I told you that I hadn't said it and for you to prove that I did, why didn't you just say something like, "I didn't remember if it was you or not that's why I started with 'If memory serves'"


Because that is LITERALLY what the phrase means. I didn’t think I had to spell it out for you.

Why admit to being wrong?

Because I was wrong in my belief that you said that statement.

But because you were rage posting and obsessing about it for an entire page; claiming that “I wasn’t man enough to admit I was wrong” ...

I figured I would remind you that you were arguing about nothing. And maybe we could get back to the substance of the conversation

So if the second bold is true, then it was an allegation. You're stating that you believed that I made the statement you accused me of making when you typed that allegation. So you believed it to be true, went as far as to type it out because of that belief and somehow "If memory serves-" makes it not an allegation?

If I said, "IIRC, you said you were voting for Trump". Would that not be an allegation?

Disappointing spin move this time. You must be getting tired.

 

[Peace_79]

So we've reached the point of playing dumb...

Just let it go, young fella. Your pride isn't worth it.

So after all that time I spent playing your game.

You not going to answer any of my questions huh? Cool

 

[Mister]

So after all that time I spent playing your game.

You not going to answer any of my questions huh? Cool

I told you where the answer is, little guy. Go find and quote it. I believe in you.

 

[Peace_79]

Peace it's your actions man not what you're saying. Had you just answered his first question off the bat instead of beating around the bush you wouldn't be locked into a back and forth. He's simply poking holes into what you're saying because your actions are inconsistent with what you're trying to say.

So he doesn’t like my delivery. That’s fair. I don’t much like his delivery either.

Find me what I said that’s inconsistent tho.

Also notice how he has asserted that :

• I lack reading comprehension
• I’m not man enough to admit when I’m wrong
• I want Joe Biden to lose (and Donald Trump to win the Presidency)
• I want a woman to have been raped

But one time I thought he said something when he didn’t and I’m the one in my feelings and out of pocket.

 

[Mister]

So he doesn’t like my delivery. That’s fair. I don’t much like his delivery either.

Find me what I said that’s inconsistent tho.

Also notice how he has asserted that :

• I lack reading comprehension
• I’m not man enough to admit when I’m wrong
• I want Joe Biden to lose (and Donald Trump to win the Presidency)
• I want a woman to have been raped

But one time I thought he said something when he didn’t and I’m the one in my feelings and out of pocket.

Let the tears flow. Let it all out.

 

[Peace_79]

I told you where the answer is, little guy. Go find and quote it. I believe in you.

I referenced that quote. And nowhere did it answer any of the following questions.


- If Joe Biden went on TV tomorrow and admitted to the rape, will you vote for Trump in November?

- In that scenario, do you think all Democrats should stay home and let Trump be President?

- Would that be the the integral thing to do?



I’m starting to think you are afraid to answer them

 

[Peace_79]

Let the tears flow. Let it all out.

- Says the guy who cried for two pages about whether or not he said something 2 months ago on a message board

It’s less “tears” than it is “hypocrisy” on your part.

But you got it tho.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Unless the cops lock Biden up .... I’m voting for him against bleach injector

 

[Mister]

I referenced that quote. And nowhere did it answer any of the following questions.


- If Joe Biden went on TV tomorrow and admitted to the rape, will you vote for Trump in November?

- In that scenario, do you think all Democrats should stay home and let Trump be President?

- Would that be the the integral thing to do?



I’m starting to think you are afraid to answer them

You're really going to play the stupid role? Sad. I wasn't expecting that tactic.

If Biden were to admit his guilt, he should no longer be the presumptive nominee and removed completely as a candidate. Simple.

Also, that's not how "integral" is used.

 

[Mister]

- Says the guy who cried for two pages about whether or not he said something 2 months ago on a message board

It’s less “tears” than it is “hypocrisy” on your part.

But you got it tho.

Keep them coming.

 

[Peace_79]

So if the second bold is true, then it was an allegation. You're stating that you believed that I made the statement you accused me of making when you typed that allegation. So you believed it to be true, went as far as to type it out because of that belief and somehow "If memory serves-" makes it not an allegation?

If I said, "IIRC, you said you were voting for Trump". Would that not be an allegation?

Disappointing spin move this time. You must be getting tired.

NO it would not.

In many cases that phrase literally takes the form of a question.

It is not an allegation, it is a statement prefaced with a phrase that gives the disclaimer that one is not certain about the veracity of the statement.

 

[Peace_79]

You're really going to play the stupid role? Sad. I wasn't expecting that tactic.

If Biden were to admit his guilt, he should no longer be the presumptive nominee and removed completely as a candidate. Simple.

That’s not what I asked you.

If Joe Biden admitted he was guilty, and there was no doubt in your mind that he was a rapist, assume he is still the nominee


- Will you vote for Trump in November?

- In that scenario, do you think all Democrats should stay home and let Trump be President?



Another question that you dodged-

How does endorsing Joe Biden personally benefit Bernie Sanders?

 

[Mister]

That’s not what I asked you.

If Joe Biden admitted he was guilty, and there was no doubt in your mind that he was a rapist, assume he is still the nominee


- Will you vote for Trump in November?

- In that scenario, do you think all Democrats should stay home and let Trump be President?



Another question that you dodged-

How does endorsing Joe Biden personally benefit Bernie Sanders?

Again you're being dishonest. If that's not what you asked, why'd you change your question? Have some integrity, man.

Here are your questions:

I referenced that quote. And nowhere did it answer any of the following questions.


- If Joe Biden went on TV tomorrow and admitted to the rape, will you vote for Trump in November?

- In that scenario, do you think all Democrats should stay home and let Trump be President?

- Would that be the the integral thing to do?



I’m starting to think you are afraid to answer them

My answer:

If Biden were to admit his guilt, he should no longer be the presumptive nominee and removed completely as a candidate. Simple.

You realized the flaw in your question and have now tried to change it because I did, indeed, answer your questions.

As you've now realized, if Biden came out tomorrow, as you initially asked, and admitted guilt then he would not be the nominee coming out of the convention. My answer would be exactly what would happen. So why would I vote Trump instead of the democratic nominee?

You're really not good at this.