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Negusa Negast
Such a sad situation... this is a time for grieving and counseling...
COMMUNITY Surge of Student Suicides Pushes Las Vegas Schools to Reopen
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Negusa Negast
Some are, depends on the child. I've seen failing students suddenly excel in this environment. I've also seen students who are A graded dropped due to not being in the building
Dwayne
Not Like Us
My sister is a teacher and I know a shit ton of teachers for elementary school.
They struggling bruh. It is what it is.
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Negusa Negast
I'm a disciplinarian in a behavioral school and have worked in elementary and middle schools for some years... I know something from data and observations
Dwayne
Not Like Us
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Negusa Negast
I didn't say more, I said it depends on the student, some really thrive in this online environment, some aren't. The struggle would make sense from K to maybe 4th though.
Dwayne
Not Like Us
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Negusa Negast
That's not downplaying the situation, its recognizing that there are students for whom this is ideal and could better help them especially if they go from in school struggling to excelling in the online world. I see opportunities, hybrid for some students
Old Man Cain
OG
no matter what I say it's going to come off insensitive. Either open the schools so kids want kill themselves or keep schools closed so the pandemic don't spread and kill multiple people
The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
This is kinda surprising to be honest. I could have actually seen this more when I was coming than now. People are social by nature, especially when young, so I could see a rise in suicide among the young when their social interaction is taken away from them. Nowadays though, there are so many different ways of interacting socially without in-person contact that I would have thought the kids would have been good.
I guess that's not true.
I think they need to try an understand the phenomenon though. If they just make a snap judgment and reaction, they could do more harm than good.
I guess that's not true.
I think they need to try an understand the phenomenon though. If they just make a snap judgment and reaction, they could do more harm than good.
Loneshot
Active Member
I did not read the article as I got stuck behind a pay wall, but in regards to your reply...I'm not really looking forward to sending my daughter back to school full-time. When it comes to math and some sciences I like the idea of in-class learning, but in other subjects such as history and English, I feel I do a better job at home teaching her at home as the content leaves out important details. To add to this, my daughters elementary has so many short days and random holidays that it feels like she was hardly there anyway. The only thing I miss is her getting the social interaction experience, but the school curriculum seriously needs overhaul.
I'm also going to school to complete a degree and I don't miss the classroom at all. In Zoom classes I hear people claim the miss the in-class experience and I call bullshit. I'm almost near graduation and in most of my college classes the experience is fairly dull. I've had great professor's who spend the entire class giving the lecture to a hand full of students in a class of 25-30 people. They say they miss the experience, yet don't speak in class, nor do the readings, or participate much; screw these people. If there is hardly any participation why bother with an actual classroom? People just want to be noticed for nothing. I hope I manage to graduate before ever having to return to a classroom. I always hated the outdated format of classroom learning anyway.
mryounggun
OG
Decades from now, there should be and will be studies done on how a year+ out of the classroom affected children of certain ages and shaped the rest of their lives.
I don't think we're really paying enough attention to it.
I don't think we're really paying enough attention to it.
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Negusa Negast
Everything really depends on the type of learner you are... some are audio, some visual, some are hands-on... elementary students I can understand doing better at the school, there are aspects in class interaction that benefits that group. Now you'll have a select few or are better home with the virtual learning, but moreso 4th at youngest to 5th and 6th grade.
Once you start hitting middle and high school, you can start to see who does better where, large classroom or small, etc. Some students really love being in front of a screen and can succeed. Others are a more natural fit in a classroom where other styles of learning can come into play. Also maturity can play a part toss in introverts may fair better or those easily distracted by students or the hallway action.
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Negusa Negast
All these discussions aside... this is tragic. Kids who only just begun to engage the world around them are gone because that was the only solution they saw fit... maybe phone and email checks and talks with surviving friends can shed a light on what happen... and hopefully this wasn't some created trend
The Lonious Monk
Celestial Souljah
This world is full of poison man. I think we are all being damaged in ways we don't understand.
Mister B.
The Devil’s Greatest Advocate…..
From my viewpoint, there are some kids that are always gonna thrive, and some that are are always gonna struggle, no matter what the environment is.
However, the students in between can vary. Some I know will thrive at home where they are not distracted by other students; some students (like one mom I just got off the phone with in my weekly phone calls) says their child thrives on competition, so being physically at the building drives that competition.
Point is: each student takes to this situation as best they can, and as best as the people they look to (parents/teachers/admin) help them deal with.
If students are REALLY contemplating measures as extreme as suicide, I'm starting with home WAY before I ask teachers to intervene.
However, the students in between can vary. Some I know will thrive at home where they are not distracted by other students; some students (like one mom I just got off the phone with in my weekly phone calls) says their child thrives on competition, so being physically at the building drives that competition.
Point is: each student takes to this situation as best they can, and as best as the people they look to (parents/teachers/admin) help them deal with.
If students are REALLY contemplating measures as extreme as suicide, I'm starting with home WAY before I ask teachers to intervene.
Mister B.
The Devil’s Greatest Advocate…..
As far as my mention of them being "too self-aware", I equate it to too much information on the internet telling them how they should look, think, feel, and what is best for them.
They're not taking time out to "just be kids" because the information they're constantly receiving is altering their own metacognitive process. There's no risk with them; they're all too afraid to be themselves, and are too focus on their 'persona' of what they think the world wants them to be.
That's also driving them to suicide, too. When their worlds gets disrupted, some of them are able to bounce back and adapt. However, some of them can't and choose an out such as suicide.
They're not taking time out to "just be kids" because the information they're constantly receiving is altering their own metacognitive process. There's no risk with them; they're all too afraid to be themselves, and are too focus on their 'persona' of what they think the world wants them to be.
That's also driving them to suicide, too. When their worlds gets disrupted, some of them are able to bounce back and adapt. However, some of them can't and choose an out such as suicide.
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
Damn, I watch the local news every night and this shit wasn't even on it.
Blue_London
OG
I have worked within online learning/teacher training for about 8 years it has never been taken seriously from the education department down to teachers a lot of teachers were unwilling to change their ways of teaching and extremely against change. Now we are in a situation where most are dependent on online learning and it's not where it could/should be as always we are realising when it's to late.
My irrelevant view on how schools can keep a fine balance. school counselors should be be in demand during the pandemic this should highlight the need for recruitment.
Schools should be partially open and only a few students should be allowed to attend at request. Of course teachers should be fully ppe and social distanced
The quality of education SHOULD NOT be any worse as there's great tools out there that means you can deliver lectures in real time and have the same amount of discussion.
Teachers should encourage more collaborative work to keep students working together and constantly socialising.
Stressing peer to peer support should be extremely important from the education department
My irrelevant view on how schools can keep a fine balance. school counselors should be be in demand during the pandemic this should highlight the need for recruitment.
Schools should be partially open and only a few students should be allowed to attend at request. Of course teachers should be fully ppe and social distanced
The quality of education SHOULD NOT be any worse as there's great tools out there that means you can deliver lectures in real time and have the same amount of discussion.
Teachers should encourage more collaborative work to keep students working together and constantly socialising.
Stressing peer to peer support should be extremely important from the education department
Natural Born Sinners
Active Member
Suicide cluster is a real thing. I'm sure COVID, social media n isolation all play a role in the increased in numbers. Prayers to the family man, that's all I gotta say n God bless their children's souls