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Should She Be Sent To Prison?

Should She Be Sent To Prison

  • Yes, that's involuntary manslaughter

    Votes: 16 80.0%

  • No

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Total voters
    20
BNE said:
that was an example, not an equivalence. I used that only to show that freedom of speech is one of the legal rights we have that are limited by the presence of other laws.

and a company can't stop dealing with you for any reason after a contract is signed. employment law usually says that when u sign the contract, depending on policies (that aren't at odds with ur state's laws) that's when you're protected, unless u violate a clause. the company incurs risks by violating that contract. its what entitles ppl to severance pay vs nothing sometimes.

it is completely different but again, that was just an example on the subjective enforcement of the freedom of speech. the freedom of speech is at odds with other laws like I said, like hate speech for example.
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It's easy to find a way to make it seem like somebody broke a rule within the policy.
 
TheMasterKey said:
It's easy to find a way to make it seem like somebody broke a rule within the policy.
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again, missing the point. that was an example on the limits of the freedom of speech.

The right to freedom of expression is recognized as a human right under article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). Article 19 of the UDHR states that "everyone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice".

The version of Article 19 in the ICCPR later amends this by stating that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and responsibilities" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary "[f]or respect of the rights or reputation of others" or "[f]or the protection of national security or of public order (order public), or of public health or morals".[5] Therefore, freedom of speech and expression may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury.
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the freedom of speech has always had limitations. freedom of speech as an absolute wld allow pedos to talk about their violations n conquests. freedom of speech as an absolute wld allow terrorists to openly talk about their plans n openly recruit without consequence. freedom of speech as an absolute wld make a lot of hate crimes impossible to enforce as such unless they were done in addition to some other crime, like vandalism or assault.

also, freedom of speech as an absolute gets tricky when ur on the subject of harassment. in the pic I posted, she sent those messages to him in one night. repeatedly pressuring someone to kill themselves is harassment. the victim being too weak or vulnerable minded to see it as such doesn't change that. she had the right to hold the opinion that he kill himself, but she didn't have the right to impose it on him n manipulate him into committing that.
 
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The thing is, he had already considered it BEFORE she said anything. To add to it, she attempted multiple times to talk him out of it. WIth that evidence, she will not be held guilty.


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TheMasterKey said:
The thing is, he had already considered it BEFORE she said anything. To add to it, she attempted multiple times to talk him out of it. WIth that evidence, she will not be held guilty.


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But at some point she stopped and encouraged him. If you say don't shoot a million times but right before they shoot you say ah just go ahead and shoot that is the only time that matters. Legally I am saying it is not a freedom of speech case. Her defense has to come up with a better defense.
 
Judge Dread said:
But at some point she stopped and encouraged him. If you say don't shoot a million times but right before they shoot you say ah just go ahead and shoot that is the only time that matters. Legally I am saying it is not a freedom of speech case. Her defense has to come up with a better defense.
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If that's the argument they're trying to use then she will be free by tomorrow lol

Fuck the "freedom of speech" shit you're stuck on, the fact that he had already premeditated killing himself, that alone excludes her from being guilty. Not to mention her trying to stop him. She'll be free.
 
TheMasterKey said:
If that's the argument they're trying to use then she will be free by tomorrow lol

Fuck the "freedom of speech" shit you're stuck on, the fact that he had already premeditated killing himself, that alone excludes her from being guilty. Not to mention her trying to stop him. She'll be free.
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We will see about that. No reason to debate that point. You said freedom of speech and I just said they can't use that defense.
 
Answer this Goldie, why did she tell him to eventually do it?

Why she send him ways to do?

Why she get frustrated when he was still texting and not clapping himself?

If he was already gonna do it, what was her role?

Whatever her sentence, plus 10
 
ChiCity said:
Answer this Goldie, why did she tell him to eventually do it?

Why she send him ways to do?

Why she get frustrated when he was still texting and not clapping himself?

If he was already gonna do it, what was her role?

Whatever her sentence, plus 10
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What's the definition of suicide?
 
TheMasterKey said:
The thing is, he had already considered it BEFORE she said anything. To add to it, she attempted multiple times to talk him out of it. WIth that evidence, she will not be held guilty.


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reread this. he's talking about self-harm. "it will make the pain go away temporarily". sounds like he's talkin bout cutting or summin. the wording doesn't sound like they're talking about suicide.

in any case, she sure showed him a more "permanent" solution
 
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