You're right. The ironic thing is those MFS are probably the farthest from 'religious' than anyone else.
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Swabbie
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Whereas the other side are seeing their goals to become actual laws as well i.e., gender ideology taking hold in various blue-dominated regions where kids are being reprimanded for not using preferred pronouns and boys are playing in girls sports. Teachers are creating secret LGBT clubs and not telling parents about it (regardless of where you stand, elementary schools always send notice of what clubs are available to the parents). It is now a hate crime to not acknowledge a person's pronouns in Oregon, it seems.
The idea that the republicans and conservative right are the big bad and are just running ramshack over the country is such nonsense. The liberal left is winning. Roe was built on a weak argument and it took the republicans forever to see it dead, they are about as incompetent as they come.
Ask yourself this if you don't believe me, what are you more likely to get in trouble for: Saying "I don't like homosexuals" on national television or saying "I don't like Christians".
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Christian dominionism will only happen when God brings His Kingdom to earth. (Rev)
But as for Christian’s today trying to implement this, it’s unbiblical. In the Bible, Christ did not come to His people to be a political savior. He did not come to them to free them from Roman occupation. He came to deliver one message, complete one mission: to be the Savior of the world by way of His sacrifice to cleanse those who believe in His mission from their sins.
This is it. Nothing more.
Trying to push rules/regulations upon others is what the Pharisees did and they were harshly rebuked through scripture and sarcasm.
Our jobs, as Christians, is to bear fruit, love God and our neighbors. This includes showing hospitality and prayer even to our enemies. And of course, our mission, spread the gospel. Spiritual freedom from sin is much greater than that of physical, political nonsense.
mike030270
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There's a lot of shit that isn't good for people and the government shouldn't be stopping them from it unless it's illegal
I mean you could be someone who wants big government dictating everything and we'll just not agree on that
Forcing people to show their ID to look up some porn is some Big Brother shit that I'll never agree with
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I dont want to even make it sound like I'm saying what these folks are doing is Christian.
Im also for sure not saying this is exclusive to Christianity.
Hindus in India are doing this as we speak. Muslims in the Middle East doing this too. We all see what the Jews in Israel are doing.
By no means am I saying when you try to bring Christianity into how you rule your society, its the begining of the end. I carefully chose my words and said when you try to rule by religion. Cause what I'm saying happens with all religion, regardless of what the religion is.
It just so happens in America the religion happens to be Christianity, so thats the focus, but what I was saying is by no means exclusive to Christianity or any religion.
Imo, whenever you start basing laws based on a religion rather than the needs of society, you open a can of worms thats very difficult to close. And this isnt just an opinion of opinions sake, this is looking at history and seeing cases of this happening over and over.
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Swabbie
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No, I don't "want big government dictating everything". I do not want anarchy, though. I know that if people are allowed to do any and everything they want to do, that will inevitably lead to harming others. Directly or indirectly. Given that we live in a society, our lives do not occur in a vacuum. People should be free to drink but we do not want them driving because driving impaired puts others live at risks and not just their own.
Again, I am fine with regulation in certain areas because I do believe in keeping the ship afloat. Since I am interested in keeping the ship afloat, I am very obviously not for a police state because that, too, is untenable. Porn has no discernable benefits for society but we *know* that it causes massive harm in certain situations (the porn industry itself is so incredibly predatory, the horror stories are wild). Trying to make sure only adults consume it is the least we can do.
You have no right to pornography. You can beat your dick to your refrigerator if you just can't keep your hands off yourself.
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Swabbie
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What is the most functional and free country in the world, in your opinion.
Well saying either would get you in a shitload of trouble. But seeing as there's billions of Christians in the world that would cause more outrage. The left in running a culture war while the religous right is literally trying to write laws that change actual history and implementation of things that. The same religious right that's trying to rewrite actual history that people are taught because it goes against their Christian conservative values to talk about all the shit white folks did. All the "don't talk about racism because it'll makw my kid feel bad". Thats the shit that will have far longer reaching consequences than some liberal politician using pronouns.
Swabbie
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Since we are talking about America, it'd be nice to acknowledge the context of my question as being one of American appetites. I hope you'll consider answering my question again. I am certain everyone would agree that it is certainly less acceptable to dislike the LGBT crowd that the conservative crowd given all the late night hosts make their living off clowning republican voters.
Past that, I think the breaking down of the family structure, the complete denial of science and biology, and the policing of speech in such a way is a bigger threat since the thing you speak of are just crazies complaining and the people I speak of are the school boards and teachers in charge.
I am completely on board with your criticism of the right. I'd like it if we could also acknowledge the threat of the left. There is no one bad guy, frankly "bad" rarely ever exists. It's just people with very bad ideas; and neither side has a monopoly on them.
mike030270
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Disagree. There are pros and cons to porn. There's also been research in it. Not to mention society has been better since it stopped being stuck up about porn, sex, and the human body
The Benefits of Pornography
AbstractThis chapter reviews the evidence that pornography can have a positive influence on individual’s sexual wellness, mental health, relationships, bod
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Government dictating what you can look at could open up more restrictions as well as it has before
Swabbie
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Disagree. There are pros and cons to porn. There's also been research in it. Not to mention society has been better since it stopped being stuck up about porn, sex, and the human body
You can also google the benefits along with the problemsThe Benefits of Pornography
AbstractThis chapter reviews the evidence that pornography can have a positive influence on individual’s sexual wellness, mental health, relationships, bod
Government dictating what you can look at could open up more restrictions as well as it has before
Again, blog-level and anecdotal.
On the flip.
The Brain and Pornography Consumption
Kühn and Gallinat determine whether frequent pornography consumption is associated with the frontostriatal network.
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That isn't even to say much about the amount of men who don't actually know what real sex is life and go in to it thinking choking and rough shit is acceptable off the cuff.
But, I very carefully worded my statements so as to not make such a hard line on what porn means to society. What I do mean, and stand by, is that porn is very clear a net-negative when taken as a whole (the effects on the individual and the industry and its practices).
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Its difficult to say because the world is so global.
I would point to a scandanavian country. Lets just Norway for example. I think they have a good balance of freedom amd restriction. Even their restrictions arent based on religion or morals, they are based on science for the most part. For example, you cant use certain chemicals in food over there cause those things are objectively bad for you, and if you want to still do something thats objectively bad for you, then they protect you from yourself.
When it comes time to big time decisions, they go into reffendums and let the people vote.
So imo, a healthy mix between freedom and restriction though in no way perfect.
That said, the reason why I said this is to tough to answer though is do we think the Scandanavian countries would still function like they do if they didnt have the protection of Americas military complex keeping Russia off their back? Probably not.
So its hard to say cause everything is so circumstantial
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Oh hell no I could never live in Texas now.
America is very much a "Christian" country. So you'd get more outrage at the Christian comment.
Also the rewriting of history does include science denials and the other thijgs you mentioned. It all falls under that umbrella.
Nobody is discounting the influence of the left and super liberal policies that they want to implement. However, when considering the long term consequences of calling someone a preferred pronoun vs sending my child to a school where they're taught slaves were "employees" and libraries being went after over books like To Kill A Mockingbird..I'm gonna say the latter is more of a worry for me.