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[femto696]

Those titles are far more prestigious than that joke he's holding

Thought as much.

 

[Chi-Town B]

Thought as much.

That title don't mean nothing. You trying to prop this title like it's on par with the aew title when in reality it's on par with the roh title

 

[PhenomTheMac]

If Okada was at the E and had the IC or US put on him already, would we actually be having this discussion?

Please knock it off.

International title = Intercontinental
Continental = European Title
FTW = Hardcore
TNT = TV Title

So, no we wouldn't, since he'd be holding a more valuable Title. He is currently holding a tertiary championship at best. Hopefully Osprey can start consolidating some of the damn titles they have (ideally in a match with Okada.)

 

[femto696]

I told yall this shit months ago and the Aew-vengers tried to play it off like I was trolling.

Shit is bad. Fuck a fake evaluation or star ratings or whatever else Tony is trying to bolster his spirit with. We can all see it. They can't give tickets away to their homecoming show. Ratings are sinking like a rock. The only way they could even pop a rating was by destroying kayfabe and showing CM Punk chump out the guy who they are closing the show with.

People who have interacted with the show have decided to stop watching. Thats not because of WWE. Thats because people don't like what AEW is presenting. And most troublesome is those people are then shouted down for their legimate criticism. Gatekeeping in AEW spaces is fucking nuts. It's like Star Wars level with a fraction of the success. Tony Khan needs to pass the sticks and get a competent booker in there to actually craft a compelling narrative. Because it's proven what he is selling, people aren't buying. Literally.

But this is dishonest. And mostly false.

You can tell yourself its true but that doesn't make it so.

The business is like a seesaw. We saw it with WWE / WCW. WWE / TNA. Deny all you like but it's true. When WWE is hot, there will always be a CLEAR number 2.

A 2 billion dollar valuation THIS YEAR and being named 3rd most valuable combat promotion didn't happen for no reason.

 

[femto696]

International title = Intercontinental
Continental = European Title
FTW = Hardcore
TNT = TV Title

So, no we wouldn't, since he'd be holding a more valuable Title. He is currently holding a tertiary championship at best. Hopefully Osprey can start consolidating some of the damn titles they have (ideally in a match with Okada.)

But you just said there are 4 secondary titles. So it's a secondary title then no?

 

[femto696]

That title don't mean nothing. You trying to prop this title like it's on par with the aew title when in reality it's on par with the roh title

You don't watch the show, why are you actually arguing it's value lmao

 

[Chi-Town B]

You don't watch the show, why are you actually arguing it's value lmao

I don't need to watch to know it has no value.

 

[IP360]

Discussion about AEW ratings at its highest for the week:



Discussion about AEW ratings at its lowest for the week:

 

[femto696]

I don't need to watch to know it has no value.

You are very dishonest, fella.

 

[Chi-Town B]

You are very dishonest, fella.

Where do you rank this title, mind you it has no type of prestige?

 

[femto696]

The IC belt was made up cos Pat Patterson "won" a fake tournament and unified his north american belt with a belt that doesn't exist. That line of logic means the belt is worth nothing.

 

[femto696]

Where do you rank this title, mind you it has no type of prestige?

It's a secondary title.

 

[PhenomTheMac]

But this is dishonest. And mostly false.

You can tell yourself its true but that doesn't make it so.

The business is like a seesaw. We saw it with WWE / WCW. WWE / TNA. Deny all you like but it's true. When WWE is hot, there will always be a CLEAR number 2.

A 2 billion dollar valuation THIS YEAR and being named 3rd most valuable combat promotion didn't happen for no reason.

You want to claim a 2 billion dollar valuation,but claim I am dishonest?

That number was created by Dave Meltzer. The Forbes article that cited that number claimed WWE has a 6 billion dollar evaluation when it literally just sold for 9 billion dollars. AEW has never turned a profit, is bleeding viewership and is only selling out a 1/3 of the buildings they are running. In what universe does that equal out to a 2 billion dollar company?

WWE and WCW were hot at the same time. When TNA ran head to head with Raw, both shows popped big rating for that first show. Your argument that WWE is somehow to blame for AEW failures is false. People watched AEW. 1.4 million to start with. They have lost half that initial audience not because WWE is so good, but because AEW is so bad.

ITheir big angle was to try and present fucking Jungle Boy as a top act! After they themselves already showed him getting handled by Punk. Punk who popped the biggest rating for AEW all year, which is kinda bad since he's no longer signed to their company.

Tony is a mark who got worked by the Bucks. He backed the wrong horse and now they all suffer. If they put on a show people wanted to watch, then they would.

 

[Chi-Town B]

It's a secondary title.

But it's not, it's the fourth ranked men's title. The TNT title is more important and the title orange Cassidy had might be more important than that

 

[PhenomTheMac]

But you just said there are 4 secondary titles. So it's a secondary title then no?

You can't have 4 number 2s bro.

What do the titles mean? What purpose do they serve? Is being one champion inherently better than another?

At some point you reach diminishing returns and they've long since hit that point. When everyone is a champion, then being a champion has no meaning.

 

[OGDirtyD]

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They know when to jump in. Vultures for anything that makes AEW look bad. I wish I had the energy even with this redbull in hand.

 

[PhenomTheMac]

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Cap. We talked about CM Punk was still the biggest draw in AEW.

 

[PhenomTheMac]

They know when to jump in. Vultures for anything that makes AEW look bad.

Makes AEW look bad???

Are you being paid? Like what are you factoring in that makes you think anyone has to make AEW  look bad? AEW is bad. Is doing bad. Objectively. The business is in a goddamn tailspin.

 

[femto696]

You want to claim a 2 billion dollar valuation,but claim I am dishonest?

That number was created by Dave Meltzer. The Forbes article that cited that number claimed WWE has a 6 billion dollar evaluation when it literally just sold for 9 billion dollars. AEW has never turned a profit, is bleeding viewership and is only selling out a 1/3 of the buildings they are running. In what universe does that equal out to a 2 billion dollar company?

WWE and WCW were hot at the same time. When TNA ran head to head with Raw, both shows popped big rating for that first show. Your argument that WWE is somehow to blame for AEW failures is false. People watched AEW. 1.4 million to start with. They have lost half that initial audience not because WWE is so good, but because AEW is so bad.

ITheir big angle was to try and present fucking Jungle Boy as a top act! After they themselves already showed him getting handled by Punk. Punk who popped the biggest rating for AEW all year, which is kinda bad since he's no longer signed to their company.

Tony is a mark who got worked by the Bucks. He backed the wrong horse and now they all suffer. If they put on a show people wanted to watch, then they would.

Still false. It was not created by Meltzer, it's a valuation that was determined based on the public documents available.

Corps overpay in regards to acquisitions often, that usually is followed with cuts. Which is coincidentally what is happening with the WWE.

WWE and WCW were both hot at the same time but WCW were washing them for 83 weeks straight which means what? WWE were number 2.
I did not say WWE are to blame for anything. My point is quite clearly that when one company is hot, the other will be number 2 or run cold.

Again, it doesn't matter if you tell yourself whatever you're telling yourself or what the WWE indoctrination told you, the hard numbers are there and are accessible.

 

[OGDirtyD]

Makes AEW look bad???

Are you being paid? Like what are you factoring in that makes you think anyone has to make AEW  look bad? AEW is bad. Is doing bad. Objectively. The business is in a goddamn tailspin.

You know what I mean any news that's slightly negative being reported here comes the WWE Justice League. Relax my brother.