NBA Ratings Up This Season!

AP3.0 said:
A day later and you still on this lol

The league doesn't need more white specialists to make more white people watch the game

For every joker or Luka, there are 5-7 Kyle korvers.

NBA needs more access in local markets. Hell I'm all the way in Louisiana and used to see the bulls play on wgn when MJ was in his prime. Everything else is behind a paywall.

The NBA needs to be more accessible, not more white players
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First, put aside whether I am right or wrong. The main thing is that it is in no way coonish.

Back to the issue. I think it's a racial issue why some white American sports fans don't watch the NBA. I see their comments on social media.

The number of white American players was way down, and it's only now that it's starting to pick up.
 
Gray Matter said:
First, put aside whether I am right or wrong. The main thing is that it is in no way coonish.

Back to the issue. I think it's a racial issue why some white American sports fans don't watch the NBA. I see their comments on social media.

The number of white American players was way down, and it's only now that it's starting to pick up.
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And I still strongly disagree with all of this
 
Gray Matter said:
Well, that is what I was thinking. It's something already happening, in terms of the white American players coming into the league. That's why I said that I think that the NBA is going to be fine.

And I did mention that in my reply to Freeman:
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White players in the pipeline was secondary in your point making it seem like it was an afterthought. But you’re right, you did mention it.
 
Weren't some of ya'll arguing that Caitlin Clark was only getting shine because she's white? Now, ya'll acting like it's a cardinal sin to suggest that an influx of white players my improve ratings in the NBA? She basically revitalized the WNBA with her whiteness.

Mutha fuckas in Dallas were sending out death threats because their white boy got shipped away.

It's a stretch to say more white players would cure the NBA's woes, but ya'll are crazy if you think the NBA wouldn't get a big influx of fair weather casual fans if a few homegrown great white hopes popped up and gained prominence in the league.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Weren't some of ya'll arguing that Caitlin Clark was only getting shine because she's white? Now, ya'll acting like it's a cardinal sin to suggest that an influx of white players my improve ratings in the NBA? She basically revitalized the WNBA with her whiteness.

Mutha fuckas in Dallas were sending out death threats because their white boy got shipped away.

It's a stretch to say more white players would cure the NBA's woes, but ya'll are crazy if you think the NBA wouldn't get a big influx of fair weather casual fans if a few homegrown great white hopes popped up and gained prominence in the league.
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Again, the NBA had no issues with popularity in the 90’s and there wasn’t a mass of great white hopes during that period. You had big personalities, high competitiveness between those players, and position players.

Yes there’s racist whites that might watch more if there were more white players, but not enough to make a difference. The best players in the NFL are black, including at QB positions, and they don’t have any issues with ratings. Those racists watch anyway because the product is good.

So to say more whites is the answer comes off a way. That’s all.
 
TheNightKing said:
Again, the NBA had no issues with popularity in the 90’s and there wasn’t a mass of great white hopes during that period. You had big personalities, high competitiveness between those players, and position players.

Yes there’s racist whites that might watch more if there were more white players, but not enough to make a difference. The best players in the NFL are black, including at QB positions, and they don’t have any issues with ratings. Those racists watch anyway because the product is good.

So to say more whites is the answer comes off a way. That’s all.
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Again, I'm not saying white boys are the answer, but even when dude clarified that he just meant that racists would support the league more ya'll were still acting like he was on some bullshit. It's proven fact that they will go out of their way to support other whites. It's not even just limited to sports. Half of Eminem's fanbase probably doesn't even listen to rap outside of Eminem.

NBA ratings would absolutely go up if a male Caitlin Clark emerged. The NBA wouldn't be any better, but they'd get more views.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Again, I'm not saying white boys are the answer, but even when dude clarified that he just meant that racists would support the league more ya'll were still acting like he was on some bullshit. It's proven fact that they will go out of their way to support other whites. It's not even just limited to sports. Half of Eminem's fanbase probably doesn't even listen to rap outside of Eminem.

NBA ratings would absolutely go up if a male Caitlin Clark emerged. The NBA wouldn't be any better, but they'd get more views.
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He said the key to making the NBA “fine” was more white players. That means white boys are the answer, lol.

Also, Caitlyn Clark got views up across the board because she nice with it. The sudden popularity in women’s basketball was not driven by racist whites. And to say she was the sole reason minimizes Angel Reese’s impact.

This whole argument is based on having a white savior, which I reject and disagree with. Put out a better product and the fan base will grow. The NBA does not need a white savior as has been proven historically.
 


Is Flagg even moving the NCAA needle to automatically assume he would come in and move the NBA needle? I'm seriously asking bcuz I don't watch NCAA until the tourney.

I've heard such names as Holmgren, Reddick, Morrison, Hansborough and Jimmer etc. None of them moved the needle when it comes to viewership in the pros. Race has nothing to do with low ratings for the NBA and it hasn't since pre- Bird/Magic.
 
TheNightKing said:
He said the key to making the NBA “fine” was more white players. That means white boys are the answer, lol.

Also, Caitlyn Clark got views up across the board because she nice with it. The sudden popularity in women’s basketball was not driven by racist whites. And to say she was the sole reason minimizes Angel Reese’s impact.

This whole argument is based on having a white savior, which I reject and disagree with. Put out a better product and the fan base will grow. The NBA does not need a white savior as has been proven historically.
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He was talking about ratings not the actual problems with the NBA. It's not unreasonable to suggest that more marquis white players would lead to a ratings increase. Again, we've already seen that before. That's why CACs are constantly looking for Great White Hopes in black dominated spaces.

No one said Clark was the sole reason the WNBA had an uptick in viewership, but she was the driving force. That's not a question. Ratings for her games were like 1.5 mi people whereas the average for other games was ~400K. Like Angel Reese as much as you want. When it comes to the change in the quality of the game, she's right there with Clark, but she had nowhere near the impact that Clark had when it came to ratings.

You can feel how you want about a white savior. I agree that's not really a good path towards fixing a league. Just look at how a lot of Clark's fans have turned on her because she showed love to black players and rejected Trump. They are a good following to have. That said, a white savior absolutely can bring a temporary bump to ratings. Again, that's proven fact, so if you disagree, you're basically just rejecting reality.
 
TheNightKing said:
Again, the NBA had no issues with popularity in the 90’s and there wasn’t a mass of great white hopes during that period. You had big personalities, high competitiveness between those players, and position players.

Yes there’s racist whites that might watch more if there were more white players, but not enough to make a difference. The best players in the NFL are black, including at QB positions, and they don’t have any issues with ratings. Those racists watch anyway because the product is good.

So to say more whites is the answer comes off a way. That’s all.
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If you had a better understanding of racism, you wouldn't say something like this. Racism is dynamic, not static. An interracial couple could probably live unmolested many places in 1875; no so in 1900.

Regarding the NFL, I would be interested seeing what would happen if all or almost all the BQs were black. I think if you asked white people to guess what percentage of the NBA and NFL are black, they would say that the NBA is blacker than what it is, and that the NFL is whiter than what it is. I think part of the explanation for that is that whites still dominate the most important position, QB. If that changes, as it is, I wonder if that would affect the ratings. Then again, things still wouldn't be the same between the two leagues, because the NBA is perceived not only as the blacker league, but the woker one, too.
 
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Gray Matter said:
If you had a better understanding of racism, you wouldn't say something like this. Racism is dynamic, not static. An interracial couple could probably live unmolested many places in 1875; no so in 1900.

Regarding the NFL, I would be interested seeing what would happen if all or almost all the BQs were black. I think if you asked white people to guess what percentage of the NBA and NFL are black, they would say that the NBA is blacker than what it is, and that the NFL is whiter than what it is. I think part of the explanation for that is that whites still dominate the most important position, QB. If that changes, as it is, I wonder if that would affect the ratings. Then again, things still wouldn't be the same between the two leagues, because the NBA is perceived not only as the blacker league, but the woker one, too.
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We don’t have to continue this debate because I honestly don’t think you meant anything bad by it. The statement on its face was just wild.

But as far as NFL QBs, it’s apparent that black QBs dominate the position. Just look at playoffs as proof. Half of the playoff quarterbacks were black and 3 of the 4 in the conference championships were black and the 2 in the Super Bowl were black. And ratings have not been affected.
 
StringerBell said:
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I loved what Chiney said in the clip posted.

I hear where Stephen A. Smith is coming from, but he is definitely being disingenuous if he doesn't think that his and other media platforms don't assist in shaping some if not a lot of folks mindset on things they casually consume.....

Chiney hit the ball out of the park by talking about the analysis part when it comes to the coverage of the NBA. I feel that it's big time lacking in that department. I remember back in the day when they used to have former players come on shows and actually show a few plays to get people open shots and how to defend it. That used to be a regular thing, or the different ways players set defenses up to get to their comfortable spots on the floor or to get their signature moves off. How each team's defense is so effective or why certain teams are not using their talent in the most optimal way. Stuff like what I just posted is so rare with NBA coverage these days. Even Adam Silver pointed that out last season I believe.

It seems like a lot of the folks covering the league on these sports shows aren't as knowledgeable and tend to speak on surface level stuff. The guests they get to come on are usually out spoken former players who also don't bring (or are told not to) more detailed analysis. I understand the networks want ratings and views and the type of stuff i'm pointing out may be boring to most casual fans, but there needs to be more balance. On the major networks the coverage of the league these days is more about drama, reasons why the league is worse than it was in the past, and top 10 list. If they just sprinkle a little more details into the conversation without all the bullshit it would greatly assist
 
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