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What did you expect from Skip? Dude loves to incite w his wack takes on things. That response video was weak tbh..time to drop him.
 
Pretty informative about what may have happened

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Damar Hamlin injury: NFL cardiologist offers insight into what may have happened to Bills safety, what's next

Some insight from the medical field on Damar Hamlin's injury
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What was your initial reaction and assessment when watching the play that left Damar Hamlin injured Monday?

Dr. Baggish: When I saw what had happened, the type of collapse he had, where his body went completely limp, is the type of collapse that has a very, very high likelihood of the heart stopping. That's a really concerning thing. The real good-news story is how promptly the medical team on the sideline was at his side performing resuscitation. That is not always the case.


How much did the quick response by the medical teams affect Hamlin's diagnosis?

Dr. Baggish: Well, the diagnosis, which refers to the reason the cardiac arrest happened, is still unclear. But when something like this happens, the heart stops pumping blood, and one of the 100-percent certainties, if resuscitation isn't done, is automatic death. So it was imperative they responded so quickly.

From your perspective, what are the possible causes of Hamlin's cardiac arrest?

Dr. Baggish: There's a long list: there are genetic and congenital abnormalities which could be at play, I know there's been speculation about the blunt force from the tackle, but I would say that it's really premature to make any speculation. In fact, to jump to a conclusion would be a mistake. The diagnosis of commotio cordis, for example [which refers to a fatal disruption of the heart rhythm from a blow to the chest], is what we call a diagnosis of exclusion, meaning other things have been eliminated. We would never conclude that unless other factors have been ruled out.

Are there potential causes that you deem more likely in this case?

Dr. Baggish: It would be irresponsible to attach any kind of diagnosis until we're sure. The majority of cardiac arrests that occur in young athletes occur because of some genetic heart condition. That is independent of getting a blow to the chest. This is why, to come up with a short list is really not possible.


Generally how long does it take to diagnose the actual cause?

Dr. Baggish: The usual sequence would be to first get him stable, and I can't comment on the timeframe without being at his bedside. But the diagnostic part of this is usually second in line.

From the outside, then, what happens next?

Dr. Baggish: I think one of the things that can start now is to watch how the resuscitation effort was conducted and to learn from that. It was an exceptionally effective resuscitation effort. And it speaks to the planning that goes into it. They rehearse for emergencies like this. They have to be ready. ... With each day, the athlete's status will be updated, and the recovery trajectory will probably depend a lot on the next 48-72 hours.

If the blow to the chest is, in fact, ruled the cause, how common is such an occurrence?


Dr. Baggish: If this ends up being commotio cordis, this is not the first time it's happened, though it's not been a (common) style of sudden death in football compared with ball sports like lacrosse and baseball, or hockey, a puck sport. This would not be the first time it's happened in sports, certainly. But I want to be clear that I'm not saying that is the diagnosis at this point.

Aside from your medical profession, as a fan, what are your hopes and expectations moving forward?

Dr. Baggish: The only thing I can say I hope this does is reinforce medical teams that they need to be ready for unexpected catastrophe. I don't anticipate and wouldn't be the right person to suggest any policy change or additional changes in the way the sport is played. But I hope it's not a knee-jerk reaction if that's the case, because oftentimes it's worse to change policies in knee-jerk fashion based on one problem. ... First and foremost, of course, my hope is the young man recovers fully. And as a fan who also happens to be a doctor, I'm cognizant of the risk these athletes assume when they decide to play these sports, and I support their decisions to do so, but it's always sad when something like this occurs.
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Shenco said:
A doctor on sports radio this morning said we probably won't know anything until tomorrow or the day after because they keep the person cooled for like 36 hours after cardiac arrest.

Also said that after that the only worry is if he suffered any brain damage due to being without oxygen. Said you gotta resuscitate them within 5 minutes, but the reports are they resuscitated him in 9
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I think it took 9 because they had to resuscitate him twice. I think as long as you start CPR soon enough though it delays the onset of any oxygen deprivation injury because the CPR pumps oxygenated blood through the body manually.

And I’m sure they started to give him oxygen just as soon as they could to supplement any loss prior.

All that to say I’m hopeful for the young man.
 
NFL ain’t shit for trying to restart the game if the rumors are true, but you have to applaud them for their medical response. Probably saved his life and may even provide him with 100% recovery.
 
Oh Shannon is done done.

And I got an issue wit Jen also. This chick opened the show all smiles and glee the day after the tragedy wit Hamlin. Bitch...read the damn room!

First Take (and a lot of other shows) started off wit a serious tone and remained that way the whole show.
 
TheNightKing said:
NFL ain’t shit for trying to restart the game if the rumors are true, but you have to applaud them for their medical response. Probably saved his life and may even provide him with 100% recovery.
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To be fair although this is different…there have been other serious injuries that happen and guys keep playing. Several players have been paralyzed on the field (Ryan Shazier being the most recent) and they played on. Hell we just saw Tua throw up gang signs and that was scary…but they continued the game…It was 100% on the players. If the players would have been ok with playing on…they would have finished that game. So I don’t “fault” the NFL at all. It’s def an unprecedented situation.

and just in general with this situation…people are very emotional and triggered and traumatized in different ways…but IMO it’s still not an excuse to go head hunting because someone may say or tweet something that you don’t agree with concerning this. You can question if sharing their thoughts are necessary but to pull out pitch forks because you are emotional and can’t comprehend correctly is wrong.
 
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