OPINION Men seem to make life for women worse’: single US women share the woes of dating in 2025

SeaSnake said:
No but the way he carries women’s rights helped lead right to it. That red pill incel stuff is about getting back at women Trump Mo is restricting women and taking away rights.

When Obama was president we didn’t hear about 50 million relationship podcasts. Also these right wing folks do date. I can even bring up how people reacted to the MeToo movement. So if adult women are saying things like politics and views make it hard to date are we supposed to write it off?

If this article was saying “women make life harder for men” and men listed their valid reasons I don’t think it would’ve gone more than 2 pages.
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Those adult women aren't telling the full story though.


The main reason they hate the so-called "RedPill/Incel Movement" is because they can't get over on dudes like they used to.
 
Freeman said:
So it took you 5 pages to state what we all already know? That men and women lack in certain areas.

Like im trying to get to what the larger point is and why its not in your thread title or op yet.

Is it just that men need to do better at dating?
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Freeman

I want you to do this same case study they next time someone makes a thread using the title of an article for the title of the thread

I can also come to a reasonable conclusion based on the responses of the women interviewed to understand why the article was titled the way it was but for some reason, this is a major hangup for you and koncept

What exactly does a man have to do in your opinion to make things worse for a woman? Steal money out her purse while she's sleeping? Make her open her own doors to cars and restaurants? Make her support him financially while he gets to keep all his money? Tell her to rub some dirt on it when she's expressing feelings of inadequacy?
 
AP4.0 said:
Freeman

I want you to do this same case study they next time someone makes a thread using the title of an article for the title of the thread

I can also come to a reasonable conclusion based on the responses of the women interviewed to understand why the article was titled the way it was but for some reason, this is a major hangup for you and koncept

What exactly does a man have to do in your opinion to make things worse for a woman? Steal money out her purse while she's sleeping? Make her open her own doors to cars and restaurants? Make her support him financially while he gets to keep all his money? Tell her to rub some dirt on it when she's expressing feelings of inadequacy?
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@ The bolded: So does his absence due to the criteria the women set forth for a mate somehow make their lives miserable?
 
AP4.0 said:
Freeman

I want you to do this same case study they next time someone makes a thread using the title of an article for the title of the thread

I can also come to a reasonable conclusion based on the responses of the women interviewed to understand why the article was titled the way it was but for some reason, this is a major hangup for you and koncept
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You should have started there cause Im waiting, damn near begging one of yall to explain it then cause thats why im here, thats why I read the article because of the title. You're doing everything else but that this isn't about me or koncept. So please the floor is yours. Based on the article how are men making life for women worst?
 
AP4.0 said:
That's what you took from my response or are you asking my opinion on what you posted?
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Your response poses a question:

AP4.0 said:
What exactly does a man have to do in your opinion to make things worse for a woman?
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Within the context of the article and your statement regarding its contents immediately prior to posing that question:

AP4.0 said:
I can also come to a reasonable conclusion based on the responses of the women interviewed to understand why the article was titled the way it was...
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It would be reasonable to come to the conclusion that, since these women cannot seem to find a viable man to have a relationship with, a man's absence from their lives is, somehow, making their lives worse.
 
konceptjones said:
since these women cannot seem to find a viable man to have a relationship with, a man's absence from their lives is, somehow, making their lives worse.
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You can't tell me shit like that article isn't created specifically to cause drama and strife. The title says "Men seem to make life worse for women."

Then you read through it and see this:

“Not responding on dating apps, not effectively communicating, not wanting to plan dates. A lot of men seem to actively make life for women worse instead of better … No matter what women say they look for in a relationship, it is completely ignored by men.”
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That's legit crazy thinking. If you white knight dudes want to come in here and defend that shit have at, but...I don't know man.
 
Bottom line.

Men AND women need to do better foreal. It’s so many quality men and women out here. But the things we digest is such a false reality and detrimental to relationships. I stated it before on here.
 
southsil4lil said:
I dont understand....its both, women and men make things way harder on each other than they should be when it comes to dating

The same thing applied to men in that article can be applied to women....low effort, not responding on dating apps, not planning dates does fall on men though


Men-

-Expecting to have sex immediately
-Not setting up dates or properly courting women
-No game or communication skills
-Acting more like women than women
-Expecting women to look like IG Models


Women

-Aren't dating men under 6 feet tall, thats a ton of potential options they're eliminating off the rip
-The absurd amount of single mothers
-Not doing basic stuff like cooking and cleaning for your man
-Having horrible judgment and not knowing how to properly vet men

Both

-Manipulative
-Self serving
-Everything is transactional
-Unrealistic expectations for each other
-Getting relationship advice from social media and youtube


Dating is completely cooked in American Society
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The women part isn't on the up and up and the men issues are understated.

Women don't mind cooking and stuff, they just not gonna do it while 8+ hrs for a nigga all the time. Women date niggas under 6 ft tall all the time. What they don't do is date little niggas with a napoleon complex which a great deal have.
 
The article and dating issues aren't nothing new. Social media and modern conveniences just amplify things. Fact of the matter is, women do have insecurity issues that hold them back but the bulk of the problem with society and dating at large is a male dominated field. Majority of society are losers but the men are usually the biggest losers to hang with, let alone date. We know this already
 
deadeye said:
I'd venture to guess they played a role in making themselves miserable by choosing the wrong men.
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I evaluate chicks on who she had a previous dating history with. If she dealt with known addicts and coke heads. Then she should move around and have a nice day
 
Duwop said:
my hot take...

Dating is far too competitive. It's too flamboyant and dramatic. it's all for show and validation. People are far too defensive, combative, and suspicious of each other. they're skeptical and always afraid of being used , played or being embarrassed. and all these things translate into a horrible dating experience...

The shit just isn't fun. People are more worried about strategizing their date to expose themselves as little as possible while getting the most out of the other person. They treat it like a video game or puzzle. How to get the most outta this person without giving too much of myself away.

I honestly feel dating should just be about getting to know a person and having fun with them. If yall had a great time, do it again, if not...keep it moving. But people are too aggressive these days, they treat the shit like a fight or a challenge. if shit don't line up they feel the need to insult the person, or put them because it couldn't possibly be them, it has to be the other person. like someone has to be to blame for the shit not working out...

someone must be fucking up, there must be something to be angry about because two random people didn't immediately hit it off...someone has to be at fault, and imma embarrass and shame them for it before they embarrass and shame me....

That shit kills dating.... but it's like it's the only way people know how to date
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The thread really could have ended here...
 
Duwop said:
They don't hear me though
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The problem with what you said is that it was always like that to a degree.

I know this is my answer to pretty much everything, but social media is why dating is messed up nowadays. Everyone is walking around with skewed perceptions of the opposite sex and ridiculous expectations because they've watching tons of clips of people saying stupid stuff or giving exaggerated anecdotes. Like I've had multiple encounters where a person would say something like "Men/women nowadays suck because they do <insert complaint here>" and then I'd ask if that's happened to them and they'd be like "No." So then I'd ask why they said that then, and their answer is always, "I see it all the time on social media." It is rotting people's brains and negatively impacting pretty much every aspect of human behavior at this point.
 
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