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joegrine said:
Far from a conservative and never been a fan of Candace Owens a day in my life. (Weird how you would just fabricate such a lie about me without evidence)

However, I DO reject the embrace of victimhood narratives for black people--these days, that seems to be a conservative position to take, but historically it is just a pro-Black position.
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Systematic racist, red lining & white supremacy doesn’t exist yea i know dude you watch fox. it’s all black people fault drugs and guns just appeared in the neighborhoods where people can’t afford a can of ravioli, we need to stop blaming the yt man it’s our fault you one of those dudes for sure.
 
TYMB Kyro said:
Systematic racist, red lining & white supremacy doesn’t exist yea i know dude you watch fox. it’s all black people fault drugs and guns just appeared in the neighborhoods where people can’t afford a can of ravioli, we need to stop blaming the yt man it’s our fault you one of those dudes for sure.
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Praise Jah I never said none of that.

Still waiting for you to approach me with a criticism based on shit I actually SAID rather than just making shit up and attributing it to me.
 
joegrine said:
This is the most bizarre argument I have ever seen.

So if a dude is listening to the Mein Kampf audiobook, and his YouTube playlist is full of neo-Nazi podcasts, you would not point of that this is a disturbing propensity for fear of being "weird and feminine"? If a dude is watching video after video about how to stage a terrorist attack, you wouldn't say anything about it because "that's weird and feminine"?

Listening to Kevin Samuels et al IS "perfectly fine" in that it is not a crime to do so... and this is a free country, so you can listen to whatever you like. However, that does not make you immune to criticism, or from people making judgments about your character based on your listening tastes.

All of the men I listed are grifters who create content for ignorant, angry hoteps. I can back that up with proof. So yeah... if you listen to this shit and feel like there is real wisdom in there to guide you through life.... you are a loser.

How many truly successful black men have you seen listening to Dr. Umar? Seriously.
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No offense bro, but I'm not reading any of that shit. Its a sunny 76 degree day in Houston. It's too beautiful out here for Saturday debates. I said what I said and you said what you said. The end.
 
Thundercat said:
No offense bro, but I'm not reading any of that shit. Its a sunny 76 degree day in Houston. It's too beautiful out here for Saturday debates. I said what I said and you said what you said. The end.
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"I'm not reading any of that" is usually just a way of saying "I read it and you make too much sense for me to respond, so I'll pretend I didn't read it."

Of course you're not reading this either, so I'm just talking to myself for shits and giggles 😁

It's all good, though... you still my man because you post dope content.
 
Thundercat said:
Why? Because we're giving her shit away for free? Shut up, you prostitute.
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Nah I don’t think he means it like that, she was actually on Twitter talking shit about black men not too long ago, she had made a whole video, & the shit went semi-viral, she caught a lil flack, but not enough for my liking.

You’d really be surprised, there is a group of black women on the internet, specifically Twitter, YT, & Clubhouse who hate black men, & have started a swirl movement called divesting, they call themselves divestors or whatever, who “liberate” themselves from black men by dating out, specifically dating white men.

I’ve seen these women in clubhouse chat rooms with white men, & women in there, just talking shit about black men, & why black women should leave us for white men, & how white men are so superior, the shit was crazy, it blew my mind, lol.

Not saying she’s one of them, but she has spewed slightly similar rhetoric as that group, as far as that hotep, & toxic black masculinity shit.
 
youknowwhyimherecuhz said:
Nah I don’t think he means it like that, she was actually on Twitter talking shit about black men not too long ago, she had made a whole video, & the shit went semi-viral, she caught a lil flack, but not enough for my liking.

You’d really be surprised, there is a group of black women on the internet, specifically Twitter, YT, & Clubhouse who hate black men, & have started a swirl movement called divesting, they call themselves divestors or whatever, who “liberate” themselves from black men by dating out, specifically dating white men.

I’ve seen these women in clubhouse chat rooms with white men, & women in there, just talking shit about black men, & why black women should leave us for white men, & how white men are so superior, the shit was crazy, it blew my mind, lol.

Not saying she’s one of them, but she has spewed slightly similar rhetoric as that group, as far as that hotep, & toxic black masculinity shit.
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I've seen no indication that she is pro-divestment, and plenty to suggest that she is the opposite. She is critical of hoteps--justifiably so, considering that cohort of men's tendency to aggressively shame and attack sexually liberated women. And she has interrogated black men's toxic disrespect of black female sex workers (which can be witnessed on this very board).
 
joegrine said:
This is the most bizarre argument I have ever seen.

So if a dude is listening to the Mein Kampf audiobook, and his YouTube playlist is full of neo-Nazi podcasts, you would not point of that this is a disturbing propensity for fear of being "weird and feminine"? If a dude is watching video after video about how to stage a terrorist attack, you wouldn't say anything about it because "that's weird and feminine"?

Listening to Kevin Samuels et al IS "perfectly fine" in that it is not a crime to do so... and this is a free country, so you can listen to whatever you like. However, that does not make you immune to criticism, or from people making judgments about your character based on your listening tastes.

All of the men I listed are grifters who create content for ignorant, angry hoteps. I can back that up with proof. So yeah... if you listen to this shit and feel like there is real wisdom in there to guide you through life.... you are a loser.

How many truly successful black men have you seen listening to Dr. Umar? Seriously.
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Joegrine aka Mr. Blackfisher, you getting on my last nerve calling me out my name

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joegrine said:
I've seen no indication that she is pro-divestment, and plenty to suggest that she is the opposite. She is critical of hoteps--justifiably so, considering that cohort of men's tendency to aggressively shame and attack sexually liberated women. And she has interrogated black men's toxic disrespect of black female sex workers (which can be witnessed on this very board).
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Yea she definiately liked white guys in the past so who’s to say that’s changed, we only know her on the internet, she could live a totally different life irl, ya know?

I won’t speak on the “sexually liberated”, cause niggas do be wylin on sex workers, & I’m admittedly not educated enough on that issue to discuss it. However, I do think there should be more elegance & grace amongst women, & men need to to be more honorable & respectful. (Don’t know why tf I’m saying this on a porn thread, lmao FUCK!)

She makes points, & so have you bro for sure, but I still feel that there is an attack on black men, & masculinity as a whole, & some black women, including her are complicit in it, even if unknowingly.

You’re right but to be fair we really don’t know who’s what in here, it’s for sure some Brads, Kyles, & who knows what else. I’ve seen a vast mixture of disrespect from all corners of the spectrum towards sex workers, why are black men continuously being made the face of hate?


An Interesting discussion, I’ve enjoyed the different perspectives.
 
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