ICE Protest/Riot Thread

[Inori]

There was reporting on it on mainstream outlets. People don't care bc they look thru a partisan lens. They'll care when the other team does it and that's it. And if ppl missed this stories back then before mainstream media was on life support imagine what these algorithms are doing to people.

Do you think many of us back then were as politically engaged as we may be now?

 

[konceptjones]

I'd vote 3rd party but many of u say it's pointless or a vote for trump, and also both parties actively sabotage 3rd party candidacies.

What's ironic is u guys voted for these policies and are now crying about it.

I voted Libertarian this time around because I believed he'd do a much better job of running the country over Trump or Harris. That's what your vote should be about: Who would lead this country in the best possible way and not on some "us vs them" bullshit.

 

[ChicagoFigure]

Ideas, yes

Viable solutions, no because to make them viable, it's going to require something drastically radical which I'm not optimistic will happen during my lifetime

Personally im more interested in a convo of ideas than any of this other shit

 

[konceptjones]

Ideas, yes

Viable solutions, no because to make them viable, it's going to require something drastically radical which I'm not optimistic will happen during my lifetime

I wasn't optimistic we'd ever see a Black president in my lifetime, but we did.

 

[ChicagoFigure]

Do you think many of us back then were as politically engaged as we may be now?

I have no clue but the large point is not about the people who post on this site. It pertains to America as a whole.

 

[Inori]

I'd vote 3rd party but many of u say it's pointless or a vote for trump, and also both parties actively sabotage 3rd party candidacies.

What's ironic is u guys voted for these policies and are now crying about it.

You "would".. lol you COULD but choose to do nothing.

Some of us have and do vote third party. You choose to do nothing and still want to engage in the conversation blaming everyone for the current situation without even taking a minute to think YOU are also part of the problem because you choose to do nothing

 

[ChicagoFigure]

You "would".. lol you COULD but choose to do nothing.

Some of us have and do vote third party. You choose to do nothing and still want to engage in the conversation blaming everyone for the current situation without even taking a minute to think YOU are also part of the problem because you choose to do nothing

Okay so if I voted 3rd party that would make the substance of what I'm saying more meaningful?

The outcome would have been the same regardless.

 

[AP4.0]

I wasn't optimistic we'd ever see a Black president in my lifetime, but we did.

I think that's vastly different

The people as a whole made that decision

The people don't write laws or try to rewrite the Constitution

The people want term limits on justices instead of lifetime appointments. If the people could get rid of that, then the people could get rid of the current two party system in favor of ones that help support other candidates who may actually be more viable than the traditional system we have

 

[Inori]

The first step is acknowledging the shit truthfully and making people aware that these three were pieces of shit when it comes to immigration enforcement.

Don't get me wrong, if you're here illegally you gotta go and come back the right way. But the government has to enforce that the right way.

I really don't think anyone is aware of just how lax we've been to allow as many people here illegally as we've been, even under the last three administrations. Even overstaying a tourist visa can land you a prison term, fines, and expulsion from a country for years or lifetime bans in many countries and a lot of them are far more strict than we are.

this has been acknowledged by many of us here multiple times. Fuck all of em. Now what

 

[ChicagoFigure]

I voted Libertarian this time around because I believed he'd do a much better job of running the country over Trump or Harris. That's what your vote should be about: Who would lead this country in the best possible way and not on some "us vs them" bullshit.

There are also others who admit there actually are better potential candidates but they intentionally overlook them to vote for "who actually has a chance to win"

 

[Inori]

Okay so if I voted 3rd party that would make the substance of what I'm saying more meaningful?

The outcome would have been the same regardless.

it would.

 

[Bed$tuy🇺🇲🇭🇹]

Mannnnnn. Yall dont know the specific detail about the warrant. Just a knee jerk itoldyouism reaction

Lames

 

[ChicagoFigure]

it would.

Ok that's your opinion I respect it. But does me not voting make what I'm saying any less true?

 

[konceptjones]

Okay so if I voted 3rd party that would make the substance of what I'm saying more meaningful?

The outcome would have been the same regardless.

Actually, yes.

You would have made a decision and put that into action.

Whether or not the outcome would have been the same is moot, you acted on your beliefs and tried to make change. That carries more weight than someone that did absolutely nothing when political conversations come up.

 

[Bed$tuy🇺🇲🇭🇹]

Okay so if I voted 3rd party that would make the substance of what I'm saying more meaningful?

The outcome would have been the same regardless.

They gonna always use that against you

But guess what

@Inori logic is flawed.

He gets mad if folks play golf with Trump. If you dont hate trump like he does you're not part of the cool club.

 

[Inori]

Actually, yes.

You would have made a decision and put that into action.

Whether or not the outcome would have been the same is moot, you acted on your beliefs and tried to make change. That carries more weight than someone that did absolutely nothing when political conversations come up.

I agree with this 100%

Ok that's your opinion I respect it. But does me not voting make what I'm saying any less true?

the truth will remain the truth

 

[Bed$tuy🇺🇲🇭🇹]

@ChicagoFigure
You should've did what the other white guys did and vote Democrat so they can look at you in a good light.

Thats why I said fuck it.

Im not here to be liked.
Some abw members post for cool points and likes
Mannnnn, fuck that

 

[ChicagoFigure]

Actually, yes.

You would have made a decision and put that into action.

Whether or not the outcome would have been the same is moot, you acted on your beliefs and tried to make change. That carries more weight than someone that did absolutely nothing when political conversations come up.

Okay that's fair but it doesn't negate the conversation. Things can still be true whether I vote or not, but if that's used against me as a way to avoid the substance of what's being discussed that's disingenuous.

 

[Inori]

Okay that's fair but it doesn't negate the conversation. Things can still be true whether I vote or not, but if that's used against me as a way to avoid the substance of what's being discussed that's disingenuous.

Lets be clear im not trying to use that against you to avoid what facts you have brought up.
FUCK any person in a position of power that abuses, ignores or disregards the law with nfg to abuse and abduct people with no due course.

Thats where im at with it

 

[Bed$tuy🇺🇲🇭🇹]

I don’t think this was happening under Obama

This is the fake shit that piss me off yo

Headlines like this with no context.

Im glad I read the real shit.