Breaking News HS track athlete stabbed and killed at track meet

Did Karmelo Anthony Commit Murder or Was It Self Defense?

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Inori said:
I never said I was ok with what happened so dont do that. My stance from jump was, keep your fuckin hands to yourself
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I agree with you on that, it's always better to deescalate things, but it is what it is with teenagers. The problem is him pulling out a knife and stabbing the other kid. If he had responded with punches or went to officials, or whatever then that's all up to authorities to decide who was in the right. But once a person chooses to take a life, that's something different.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
I'm not speaking to if he had the right to put his hands on him. I'm strictly talking about lethal force. You can't use that for someone grabbing you, period. That level of self-defense is for when you fear for your life. He had the ability to leave and do any number of things....but pulling a knife out and killing dude is not legal in anyway.
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White folks kill for less.

They get off. I get you don't agree with the dudes actions but every black person and white person don't move like you move.

You put your hands on me or mines and I'm sure most on here, you may not make it home.

Road rage, folks yell and curse at one another and that ends not how you want it to end.

I respect your stance but everyone don't see it how you see it.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
I agree with you on that, it's always better to deescalate things, but it is what it is with teenagers. The problem is him pulling out a knife and stabbing the other kid. If he had responded with punches or went to officials, or whatever then that's all up to authorities to decide who was in the right. But once a person chooses to take a life, that's something different.
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You would have never made it out of slavery with this mentality
 
It was a time when a black person looked at a white person wrong and they were hung, black teens but we have a problem with defending ourselves

I remember the days when they said If someone put your hands on you, pick up a brick or whatever you can find and you do you. Let the rest play out.

Most folks when they are mad, see blood anyways.
 
Disanthrope said:
That's the thing... what myth and Dwayne are actually saying is white people putting their hands on you and disrespecting you is a Given, so just tuck tail and run from it
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Flip the scenario. Some dude gets your face at a school football game because the opposing team is winning. You push him away....is he now justified to pull out a knife? What if some kind tries to hit on your girl and you push him away? What if your kid is getting bullied verbally, and punches the other kid? How is anyone over the age 18 even arguing this shit? lol
 
i don’t get how yall asking why a black kid in a predominantly white area is carrying a knife… when we still don’t know how Kendrick Johnson wound up in the corner of a school gym, rolled up in wrestling mats with newspaper where his organs were supposed to be.
 
Black_Samson said:
i don’t get how yall asking why a black kid in a predominantly white area is carrying a knife… when we still don’t know how Kendrick Johnson wound up in the corner of a school gym, rolled up in wrestling mats with newspaper where his organs were supposed to be.
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It’s frisco.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
Flip the scenario. Some dude gets your face at a school football game because the opposing team is winning. You push him away....is he now justified to pull out a knife? What if some kind tries to hit on your girl and you push him away? What if your kid is getting bullied verbally, and punches the other kid? How is anyone over the age 18 even arguing this shit? lol
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You can't tell somebody how to react to your aggression

If im the aggressor and I push somebody, after walking up on them I might as well be ready to die

You're doing a lot of mental gymnastics in here, Simone Biles
 
A grab can lead to a choke hold which can lead to death. You can't know the intentions of an aggressor, so using force to neutralize an attacker should be reasonable self defense. I rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Bottom line, like I said on the first page. White boy should have minded his own business.

How can yall say that the young brotha should have left and go get authorities to handle it? When the white boy coulda did that first instead of trying to be the authority.
 
O.G. said:
How can yall say that the young brotha should have left and go get authorities to handle it? When the white boy coulda did that first instead of trying to be the authority.
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Because we're adults and don't want our 17 year old kids to throw away their lives. He had his whole life ahead of him, now he'll be sitting in prison and over what? Took another life over what? Put a lifetime of pain on his family over what? And people are really telling other kids that this was the right move, just wild

I don't think any parents here want their kids killed or to kill another kid over a grab. There's no winner either way, just lose/lose
 
Inori said:
grabbing and attacking someone unprovoked is assault is it not? Fearing for your life is also subjective to the person.

Not saying what went down was right.. but none of this would have went down if he wasnt attacked first
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What exactly would be considered attacking?
 
Chi-Town B said:
The white kid would still be alive if he would have mind his business and not instigate the altercation.
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If either of them wakes up with a cold it doesn’t happen

This isn’t a meaningful statement no matter how many times it’s repeated

The only legal version of that is “last clear chance” to avoid something, and there’s no dispute over who had the last clear chance to prevent it
 
There are two conversations to be had here

Who was right and who was wrong?

Versus

What is likely to happen to dude in the justice system?

I have only weighed in on the second question to this point, but as far as the first question, I think they were both dead wrong. Sometimes two people are pieces of shit and they collide into each other.
 
Chi-Town B said:
How was the young brotha in the wrong? He was just sitting there not bothering anyone.
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You can spend a lifetime trying to convince me there’s a right time to stab another student at a track meet and you won’t make any progress. That’s a bad person.
 
So any other place it would be justified but the track meet is different. Self defense is just that no matter where it is.
 
Chi-Town B said:
So any other place it would be justified but the track meet is different. Self defense is just that no matter where it is.
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No there are many similar scenarios where the idea is being under a threat to your life is laughable, that’s not the only one at all.
 
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