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How important is a producer?
- Thread starter Don Dada
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It's y'all fault
Been told y'all stop letting any MF make a thread. That screening shit was perfection.....:clawd3:
konceptjones
The one between three and three.
There's merit to this thread. The right beat can make or break a track.
Here's an example: Black Sheep's "The Choice Is Yours". This is the original version.
This one, however, is the version everybody knows because this was the one released to radio and video rotation:
^^^ That's the remix to it. Totally different energy and far more listenable. Both versions are on the Album "A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" but the original is on the A side of the tape/vinyl and the remix is at the very end on the B-side.
Another one: Special Ed's "The Magnificent". This is the version on the album:
And this is the version they released for the video:
I always used to skip over the Magnificent on that tape. But with a different beat the shit was just better, same lyrics but far more listenable.
Here's an example: Black Sheep's "The Choice Is Yours". This is the original version.
This one, however, is the version everybody knows because this was the one released to radio and video rotation:
^^^ That's the remix to it. Totally different energy and far more listenable. Both versions are on the Album "A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" but the original is on the A side of the tape/vinyl and the remix is at the very end on the B-side.
Another one: Special Ed's "The Magnificent". This is the version on the album:
And this is the version they released for the video:
I always used to skip over the Magnificent on that tape. But with a different beat the shit was just better, same lyrics but far more listenable.
BRIAN B.
Shittypoobutt
but what he's sayin is as great as you think Jay is, you still ain't ridin round jus bumpin the acapella
so in that case
the producer is very important
Word....Life
Haa..I threw that shit before I walked in tha ROOM
What MUSICAL artist y’all ridin’ around listenin’ to straight vocals??
Tha producer is very important but trying to act like somebody at Jay’s status is there simply because of his beats is absurd
Word....Life
Haa..I threw that shit before I walked in tha ROOM
Also…Jay is 1 of tha people who’s lyrics come across as visuals so IF I were to listen to acapella versions he’d work
Lyricists are still lyricist without beats…but party/dance artists wouldn’t work
dodge
Brooklyn Bred
Great production though is more than just about bangin beats…..it’s more about finding something that fits and helps accentuate the lyricist even MORE…
That’s why some lyricist match well with certain producers…..
Hit Boy and Nas for example are a match made in heaven….without that collab the KD series wouldn’t be as dope regardless of how amazing of a lyricist Nas is…
dodge
Brooklyn Bred
They over complicate music. A great lyricist with a great producer that knows his style is a guaranteed match made in heaven
BRIAN B.
Shittypoobutt
bruh
the beats are half the reason
if Jay was spittin that shit on def poetry jam & not over Neptunes/Kanye/Just Blaze beats we wouldn't kno him as the Jay-Z we do
his acapellas are available now, so what's stoppin you from playin them?
cuz you wanna hear the beats that accompany those lyrics as well
dodge
Brooklyn Bred
Maybe it’s just me but I think that weird era in hip hop during the late 00’s where artists stopped caring about lyrics and only beats and the hook has got the culture overthinking this shit…
No one wants to hear anyone sing or rap over a terribly produced track
But that doesn’t meant the lyricist has to “depend” on a trendy beat if you catch my drift
It all matters…..Kendrick Lamar himself said that him needing the right sound is what helps make his music more digestible
No one wants to hear anyone sing or rap over a terribly produced track
But that doesn’t meant the lyricist has to “depend” on a trendy beat if you catch my drift
It all matters…..Kendrick Lamar himself said that him needing the right sound is what helps make his music more digestible
Word....Life
Haa..I threw that shit before I walked in tha ROOM
bruh
the beats are half the reason
if Jay was spittin that shit on def poetry jam & not over Neptunes/Kanye/Just Blaze beats we wouldn't kno him as the Jay-Z we do
his acapellas are available now, so what's stoppin you from playin them?
cuz you wanna hear the beats that accompany those lyrics as well
Bruh what we doin’ here?!
How often do you listen to ANY artists acapella versions??
Again I’m not here to make anybody be a Jay Z fan but y’all gotta stop wit’ this ridiculous narrative that Jay only good cuz of his beats…
I’m past these dumbass Jay v Nas discussions too because Nas fans gonna feel how they feel as are Jay fans…but as a big fan of both I’m telling you MY opinion is Jay is JUST AS great a lyricist as Nas
So now where do we go from here??
BRIAN B.
Shittypoobutt
it's not jus Jay-Z tho, in general
of course he's an example super would use lol
Jeezy be sayin sum shit, not as lyrical as Jay but, he's not where he's at sans Shawty Redd/etc.
Three 6 wouldn't still be influencing today if Paul & Juice beats wasn't knockin
dodge
Brooklyn Bred
No one is arguing that great production doesn’t help ACCENTUATE lyricists
What I believe Word is saying is that lyricists like Jay-Z isn’t just widely know for just his tracks but his overall lyrical ability and talent
Jay has the total package of a lyricist AND a great songwriter/Hit maker
Same as rappers like 50 Cent
Word....Life
Haa..I threw that shit before I walked in tha ROOM
:smh:Yeah…y’all got it
dodge
Brooklyn Bred
Nah….people put Jay above Nas because Jay knows how to make more accessible songs
But guess what? He’s still a top tier lyricist just like Nas is
Nas is a terrible freestyler….Jay on the other can write an entire album in his damn head.
Nas is more intricate….Jay is more loose
Respect to BOTH
Word....Life
Haa..I threw that shit before I walked in tha ROOM
That’s a dumbass take and I blame myself for even entertainin’ your stupid shit this long…
Word to @CAP 3.0