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Hip Hop and R&B has never been as wack and corny as it is now

Los216

Los216

The Game Is The Game
I'm 30. Overall the quality of the music sucks right now. It's obvious to me that the biggest reason for the decline in the music is the changes in society. Society has changed a lot from 1999 to 2009 and now 2019. With those societal changes you should expect different content or even a different approach with the music. That said the music is in decline. It don't hit like it used to. I feel like I'm outgrowing the music.

R&B is extra corny right now too. That shit disgust me. There is very little soul in the music. The singing seems like an afterthought now. I'm not saying that everybody used to be able to sing. There's always been some artist who can't sing but put out great music. Like Mary J. Blidge. She can't sing for shit put she puts out quality music. Now it seems like that shit has gone too far. There's not enough artist who can actually sing.
 
You know how people always clown on The BET Awards and The Hip Hop Awards? The truth is the actual show was never the problem. It was always the music. I don't wanna be that guy posting 90's and early 2000's Rap and R&B videos but look at the songs on the top of the charts. Or look at what's selling. Look at these videos. The interviews suck because the music sucks. Niggas can't even do a functional interview with any sort of insight these days.

The sad part is with the way social media is setup today the game is rigged in favor of every artist now. All of them. There's no artist who's at a disadvantage. They all have the ability and the means to create their own platform so why is the music so bad?

So I'm from Cleveland. I remember in the year 2001 my cousins were playing a lot of Three 6 Mafia and Project. They're from Memphis. I'm from Cleveland Ohio. It literally took years for their music to really start buzzing in our city. Without a social media platform you had to rely on radio play, some type of TV presence, or just word of mouth. Unless you were buy CD's every week it was very hard to keep up with the music if it wasn't local. Internet forums were just getting started back then. Artist had to really grind to get their music out there so you know if their shit was going all across the country that they had some level of support or interest from the fans and listeners. That's not the case now. You don't have to grind to get your shit out there. Plus the bar is so fucking low on music now it's like people are afraid to say that some artist just suck.

The grinding and hustling element of the music is missing and that was one of the main things that garnered respect. It's not like that anymore.
 
I used to love how different rappers had different themes and motifs. Flows and sounds. Like Busta with his apocalypse albums and the eerie string heavy beats he spat on.

Music really is trash now, and when it's not trash it's super generic ie DAMN, but that's the fault of the consumer
 
Im same age as u and felt the same way about hip hop in middle school & HS

The ringtone era was so trash. The south was pushing garbage like Dem Franchise Boys, D4L, & Ying Yang

i never fucked with the popular NY shit like Cam, Dipset, Ja Rule, ect.



The thing is tho u need to look for it. BET and MTV alway gonna push the popular music and truth is most people in general are idiots.

Dope music always gets dropped and with the internet u can find it if u really want to. Might not be most popular but who cares.
 
I know I'm not the only person that has to Google the artist when some of these threads pop up. Who are these niggas? lololololol

It's not like I avoid the music entirely but somewhere in the last 10 years it feels like the credentials to get in the culture went out the window. The things that we largely considered one off or wild back in the day are norms now. Things like tattoos and drug abuse are so fucking normal that if you're an artist with no face tats and don't abuse drugs you're an outsider. Niggas aren't even rapping about just smoking weed anymore. These niggas got whole mixtapes about being on perks and going through all these ranges of emotions. Nigga you need help not music lolololol.

I was looking at that thread about JD and female rappers and I didn't wanna say it but the truth is that none of them female rappers move the needle. None of them. I love Cardi B but her music does not move the needle. Meg The Stallion? I'm, not listening to a whole tape pf her shit bruh. I can't sit through it. It's just so easy for all of these artist to really get put on. They're really fumbling the rock if we're being honest. You all have this platform and the music still falls flat.
 
GOAT said:
Im same age as u and felt the same way about hip hop in middle school & HS

The ringtone era was so trash. The south was pushing garbage like Dem Franchise Boys, D4L, & Ying Yang

i never fucked with the popular NY shit like Cam, Dipset, Ja Rule, ect.



The thing is tho u need to look for it. BET and MTV alway gonna push the popular music and truth is most people in general are idiots.

Dope music always gets dropped and with the internet u can find it if u really want to. Might not be most popular but who cares.
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But if you have to look for it that hard like you do now then something is wrong. I can't fully blame BET and MTV. I said before society has changed and music videos being played on TV is not as popular as it once was. At the end of the day the talent pool of artist is just bad.

Music right now is like WWF after the Attitude Era. They will never get back to that level. The new talent will never hit like Stone Cold or The Rock. maybe it was ment to be like that and I should just be blessed that I came up when I came up.

We should do a thread comparing rappers to wrestlers and comparing eras.

Jay-Z = Undertaker
Drake = John Cena
 
Maybe if you are looking at mainstream for your source of music, then yeah. Mainstream pushes what works and then keeps following that same trends until it is not hot anymore. Underground, local, independent or the not so popular artist are there still waiting for people's support.
 
loud-ninja said:
Maybe if you are looking at mainstream for your source of music, then yeah. Mainstream pushes what works and then keeps following that same trends until it is not hot anymore. Underground, local, independent or the not so popular artist are there still waiting for people's support.
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Jay, Nas, BIG, Pac, Outkast were all 'mainstream' artists
 
Los216 said:
The things that we largely considered one off or wild back in the day are norms now. Things like tattoos and drug abuse are so fucking normal that if you're an artist with no face tats and don't abuse drugs you're an outsider. Niggas aren't even rapping about just smoking weed anymore. These niggas got whole mixtapes about being on perks and going through all these ranges of emotions. Nigga you need help not music lolololol.
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"Boys nowadays wanna glorify how much dope they do...
And i didnt say sold....
That shit aint gettin old to you?
Ready to request a refund for the game they told to you
Boys wanna talk about how they trill but really dont have a clue"
-Big Sant


 
I miss the days of rap when everyone had their own style, sound & in house producer & records still sold. The days that I can throw on some Juvenile or BG & feel like I'm in the heart of Magnolia, throw on some Pat & feel like I'm in North Memphis then listen to some DMX & get that gritty NY sound. Everybody had their own style, flow and talked about things that was regional. They had integrity when I was growing up. If you an artist was featured on your project or If you was in a group, then your group members used to had pride to outshine the others on a record. Now it's who can out goofy each other smh. These days most of these artists sound like they are from the same place. It used to be a time that you'll get checked for biting or called out for it, but now it's okay or celebrated. I had the same problem with R&B too. The soul is gone from it. It's like seeing and hearing unseasoned potato salad trying to sing.
 
Los216 said:
I'm 30. Overall the quality of the music sucks right now. It's obvious to me that the biggest reason for the decline in the music is the changes in society. Society has changed a lot from 1999 to 2009 and now 2019. With those societal changes you should expect different content or even a different approach with the music. That said the music is in decline. It don't hit like it used to. I feel like I'm outgrowing the music.

R&B is extra corny right now too. That shit disgust me. There is very little soul in the music. The singing seems like an afterthought now. I'm not saying that everybody used to be able to sing. There's always been some artist who can't sing but put out great music. Like Mary J. Blidge. She can't sing for shit put she puts out quality music. Now it seems like that shit has gone too far. There's not enough artist who can actually sing.
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We old bruh. Mainstream rap and rnb donā€™t cater to us anymore. Kendrick and JCole make songs for our age range.
 
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