For the first time in 30 years, no hip-hop album or song has hit no. 1 in 2023.

[Swiffness!]

as the article clearly states, this is largely a function of big names not dropping + a handful of non-rap songs topping the charts............if Eminem rolled out of bed last month and decided to release a weed plate worse than Revival, this thread wouldn't exist lol.

All them folks from the late 80s and early 90s that said HipHop won't last is getting their point proved and I don't like it

man come on lol. its not that deep

why are we still doing this "HIP-HOP IS GONNA GO AWAY LIKE DISCO OR GET STOLEN LIKE ROCK N ROLL" shit after 40 years?

White People stole Rock n Roll like 2 years after Chuck Berry invented it.

Disco's peak was like.......3 years??

We are coming up on the 43 year anniversary of Rapper's Delight.

Pretty much every other genre would KILL to have the sales power, talent pool, and cultural relevance of Rap/Hip-Hop lol.

We don't appreciate this because we're on the inside looking out, but lots of white people outside the culture will tell you straight up that Rock Music died because Hip-Hop took over. Straight up. White kids heard Dr. Dre & Wu-Tang and never looked back. When Kurt Cobain died, that was IT for the Grunge Rock movement. ONE death sank the entire genre. Labels searched far and wide for "the next Nirvana".....they found hot garbage like Nickelback instead. When 2pac and Biggie died, there was serious concern within the recording industry that their deaths would sink hip-hop the same way. You know what happened instead? DMX and a whole new generation of legends showed up. Because at the end of the day, its like the NBA or the NFL.............as long as Amerikkka keeps niggas in trapped in poverty and prisons, there will be a strong talent pool of gifted black people desperate to escape.

 

[Bed$tuy🇭🇹]

as the article clearly states, this is largely a function of big names not dropping + a handful of non-rap songs topping the charts............if Eminem rolled out of bed last month and decided to release a weed plate worse than Revival, this thread wouldn't exist lol.



man come on lol. its not that deep

why are we still doing this "HIP-HOP IS GONNA GO AWAY LIKE DISCO OR GET STOLEN LIKE ROCK N ROLL" shit after 40 years?

White People stole Rock n Roll like 2 years after Chuck Berry invented it.

Disco's peak was like.......3 years??

We are coming up on the 43 year anniversary of Rapper's Delight.

Pretty much every other genre would KILL to have the sales power, talent pool, and cultural relevance of Rap/Hip-Hop lol.

We don't appreciate this because we're on the inside looking out, but lots of white people outside the culture will tell you straight up that Rock Music died because Hip-Hop took over. Straight up. White kids heard Dr. Dre & Wu-Tang and never looked back. When Kurt Cobain died, that was IT for the Grunge Rock movement. ONE death sank the entire genre. Labels searched far and wide for "the next Nirvana".....they found hot garbage like Nickelback instead. When 2pac and Biggie died, there was serious concern within the recording industry that their deaths would sink hip-hop the same way. You know what happened instead? DMX and a whole new generation of legends showed up. Because at the end of the day, its like the NBA or the NFL.............as long as Amerikkka keeps niggas in trapped in poverty and prisons, there will be a strong talent pool of gifted black people desperate to escape.

Reading this post made me think of Mos Def's track "Fear not of Man" on his album "Black on Both Sides."

Looking back I think he might've been shortsighted.

So nothing y'all said hitting
Maybe I'm just being too negative.

But it ain't looking good.

I say that because I'm paying attention to world events and human behavior.
Something is different.
What was said to preserve HipHop don't hold that much weight like it use to.

 

[rip.dilla]

So if a rap song or album ain't on the Billboard charts... It means Hip hop is dead? LOL


I thank God for the right to make personal playlists now like we did for personal mixtapes back in the day before streaming

 

[Bed$tuy🇭🇹]

So if a rap song or album ain't on the Billboard charts... It means Hip hop is dead? LOL


I thank God for the right to make personal playlists now like we did for personal mixtapes back in the day before streaming

Old white men Is running this rap shit
Corporate force's running this rap shit
Some tall Israeli is running this rap shit
We poke out our asses for a chance to cash in
Cocaine, is running this rap shit
'Dro, 'yac and E-pills is running this rap shit
The rape over, turn your face over nigga
No god in disguise it's me, game over
Hey lil soldiers you ready for war?
But don't ask what you're fighting for
Just hope that you survive the gunfight, the drama, the stress
You get in the line of fire, we get the big ass checks
You getting your choice of pimp
Make your choice and fall in
This is austral be I, take that cock in your behind, bitch
Hit the streets and perform for us
Hold hard and bring it on to us, fucker
I let you sip, comes an army, get a Mercedes
And kick back and let you pay me, my Mack is crazy
I leave the, knife and fist fight filled with glamor
Yeah, take a picture with this platinum plated sledgehammer
We over-do it add the fire and explosion to it
We sold confusion, we front rap music
MTV, is running this rap shit
Viacomm is running this rap shit
AOL and Time Warner running this rap shit
We poke out our asses for a chance to cash in
Cocaine, is running this rap shit
Hennessey, is running this rap shit
Quasi-homosexuals is running this rap shit
Watch out! we run the world

 

[Bed$tuy🇭🇹]

I'm saying tho

These joanna niggas talking bout Afro Beats. I like that song by the way but ....

It's over

 

[Mr.LV]

I was reading an Article about Kanye West and 50 Cent in 2007 they were comparing Hip-Hop/Rap to
Disco

Kanye West and 50 Cent put waning hip hop in spotlight

Rapper 50 Cent has pledged to retire if Kanye West's new album outsells his, generating much-needed publicity for a flagging musical genre that may go the way of disco.

www.reuters.com

“Rapper 50 Cent has pledged to retire if Kanye West’s new album outsells his, generating much-needed publicity for a flagging musical genre that may go the way of disco.”

“Like the hyperbole of rap itself, 50 Cent’s promise was a joke. But with both superstars expected to post weaker sales than their last releases, industry insiders say hip-hop needs new artists if it is to maintain its recent dominance.”

 

[rip.dilla]

I was reading an Article about Kanye West and 50 Cent in 2007 they were comparing Hip-Hop/Rap to
Disco

Kanye West and 50 Cent put waning hip hop in spotlight

Rapper 50 Cent has pledged to retire if Kanye West's new album outsells his, generating much-needed publicity for a flagging musical genre that may go the way of disco.

www.reuters.com

“Rapper 50 Cent has pledged to retire if Kanye West’s new album outsells his, generating much-needed publicity for a flagging musical genre that may go the way of disco.”

“Like the hyperbole of rap itself, 50 Cent’s promise was a joke. But with both superstars expected to post weaker sales than their last releases, industry insiders say hip-hop needs new artists if it is to maintain its recent dominance.”

Disco had, what a decade long stretch through the 70s and crashed in the 80s ... You can say disco and dance music are interchangeable... Beyonce the world's biggest musician released her latest album with disco/dance themes ... Disco was also the music mostly associated with gay folk



HipHop turned 50 this year... And in my opinion still going strong


Your Jiggas, NaS', Busta etc still killing it on the mic in middle age ... Cole, Kendrick will still sell irrespective


There's something for every head whether old school or the modernised new influx of drill/grime beats


HipHop far from dead in my personal opinion ... Commercialism and the radio ain't gonna kill em

 

[5 Grand]

Disco had, what a decade long stretch through the 70s and crashed in the 80s ... You can say disco and dance music are interchangeable... Beyonce the world's biggest musician released her latest album with disco/dance themes ... Disco was also the music mostly associated with gay folk



HipHop turned 50 this year... And in my opinion still going strong


Your Jiggas, NaS', Busta etc still killing it on the mic in middle age ... Cole, Kendrick will still sell irrespective


There's something for every head whether old school or the modernised new influx of drill/grime beats


HipHop far from dead in my personal opinion ... Commercialism and the radio ain't gonna kill em

Nah, I can remember the tail end of the Disco era. I was born in 1973, so I entered Kindergarten in 1978.

Disco was big from 1977-1980. In 1979 A Chicago DJ blew up some disco records before a baseball game at Kominsky Park. That was the death of Disco.



Good Times by Chic came out that summer and Rappers Delight used the Good Times beat and Hip Hop was born.

You can't compare Disco to Hip Hop. Disco was hot for 3 years, like Crunk.

 

[rip.dilla]

Nah, I can remember the tail end of the Disco era. I was born in 1973, so I entered Kindergarten in 1978.

Disco was big from 1977-1980. In 1979 A Chicago DJ blew up some disco records before a baseball game at Kominsky Park. That was the death of Disco.



Good Times by Chic came out that summer and Rappers Delight used the Good Times beat and Hip Hop was born.

You can't compare Disco to Hip Hop. Disco was hot for 3 years, like Crunk.

I kinda cosigned what you just typed in my own post


Just differed on the number of years

 

[DuperVillain]

Most of the hip hop i listen to ain't making the billboard anyway. So I really don't give a fuck.

 

[unSCENE]

Downplaying, “1st time in 30 years,” is kind of wild.

First time since 1993. Before the world knew who Biggie was. For those of you talking about a lack of heavy hitter releases I raise two points.

1.) That should really only be relevant for the album side of things. It shouldn’t take a top artist, and never has taken one, to get a #1 single. People luck into hits every year.

2.) The fact that the genre is so dependent upon a select few artists up top speaks to the health of the genre as whole.

Ultimately, there’s no issue with the genre trending back underground but these chart results definitely speak towards the cultures lack of interest in the content & quality being pushed at the mainstream level.

 

[rip.dilla]

Speaking of

 

[silverfoxx]

Didn't Metro Boomin Heroes and Villains go number 1 ???

 

[Sony Montana]

Didn't Metro Boomin Heroes and Villains go number 1 ???

If it did I guess it was in December

 

[Big_Ev]

Most of the hip hop i listen to ain't making the billboard anyway. So I really don't give a fuck.

I'm in the same boat. This shit doesn't bother me.

 

[Bed$tuy🇭🇹]

Leave it to the legend to spit facts

 

[Bed$tuy🇭🇹]

Yo @genocide_cutter

Quick question about underground vs mainstream

I want to know if you see the same problem as I see.

Because the times when we use to say
"The Underground is still alive" don't mean anything like it use to.......
What do you think?

 

[KINGEC]

Not one lie told.

Like I said earlier in this thread. It's cuz the shit ass and recycled. People are tired of it.

Tpain had a whole rant on this same shit a couple years ago.

 

[Mister B.]

You can't be suprised with the stupid shit that's being put out. That "Pound Town" BS encapsulates just how far hip-hop has fallen off.

 

[genocide_cutter]

Yo @genocide_cutter

Quick question about underground vs mainstream

I want to know if you see the same problem as I see.

Because the times when we use to say
"The Underground is still alive" don't mean anything like it use to.......
What do you think?

This guy sums it up perfectly