Do Non African Americans Have the Right to Speak on Black Culture?

[Diabolical_Dos]

Nicki is black and was raised in america....sounds african american to me.

Regardless if her family came from another country her home life may or may not be different culturally from a typical african american but she still had to go outside right?!

If aa's aren't excommunicating soulja boi for thanking slave masters and paris dennard for being a living breathing samuel L jackson character from django then anybody can talk about black culture, she black right..

@gabi fuck them b....i ain't gon call em bitches I'm a call em unstable creatures over there.

@DOS_patos and the other fella
Jamaicans and I'm sure other caribean people say nigga.

Our etymology of it is a bit different.

Some use it like black americans, some use it as a straight insult. Reason being, for the latter, that's how massa used it to degrade us.
So it morphed into part insult part playful depending on who and how it's used, almost like it's evolution in america but still less of a "term of endearment" ish

I ain't Jamaican.

 

[GNS]

I ain't Jamaican.

No shit
U swiss ain't u

 

[Diabolical_Dos]

No shit
U swiss ain't u

Call me anything other than negro 1 more time .......


And I still won't do shit but type like I'm not in my feelings.

Lol....you ain't getting to me

 

[GNS]

Call me anything other than negro 1 more time .......


And I still won't do shit but type like I'm not in my feelings.
Lol....you ain't getting to me

Dammit foiled again

 

[LUCIEN]

I think i like Du's view the best. Let dumb people talk, and their idiocy will be pointed out and shit on.

Priblem with that is there are very sophisticated ways of deceiving people that we don't always notice. Sometimes the bullshit is well hidden. What happens when we can't detect it anymore.? Then a lot of misinformation and outright propaganda gets spread. In that case it makes sense to have an all encompassing rule to prevent people who aren't the most experienced and knowledgeable from spreading bullshit

Word to the Shaun King controversy

 

[L8R]

My thing is this tho...if you've spent the majority of your life or some significant time in this country living among fellow black Americans....youre apart of the African American experience. Hip hop was created by a Jamaican and hip hop, as well as black American culture at large, has been influenced by Caribbeans and other diasporic people. Black American people are not the only contributors to the creation and maintenance of black American culture.

And I would apply that same logic to a black person who has spent their whole life somewhere else. They're apart of and contribute to that culture and feed off that energy. That doesn't mean they can't be checked it they get outa pocket...but for some people to act like they can't have a say in the environment they live in...is just not smart.

Somebody tell me if I'm off base with that thinking...

Hip hop was not created by a Jamaican. Herc told you’ll what the deal was but some of you want to hold onto a Lie. Herc was in the AA/Black American community. DJing their parties. He put THEIR sound on the airwaves. WI’s participated and were a part of the history but not the creators smh. Some Latinos try to stake claim too. This is precisely why AADOS need to protect their culture. Ppl try to change narratives. AADOS created RocknRoll and Country too but just like white ppl are whitewashing hip hop now they raped the culture of those genres then changed the narrative. So now AADOS are supposed to allow everybody to stake claim to their creations and speak on their experience? You think the avg foreign black has knowledge of AADOS traditions, cuisine, religious beliefs, traumas, scholars, historical facts? Why do ppl think AADOS culture is something everyone can have? Just like JayZ said, you can participate but you can’t have it.

The cuisine i.e. jambalaya and dirty rice and not jollof is part of their “culture”. Line, hand, juke, and other dances. Christianity and not witchcraft or traditional African religion is a part of their “culture”. AAVE not patois. The Harlem Renaissance, HBCUs, Black Power movements, Afro hairstyles etc

Can an AADOS move to Jamaica or Nigeria or anywhere for a few years then join one their tribes or become of their ethnicity? Of course not.

Nicki is black and was raised in america....sounds african american to me.

Regardless if her family came from another country her home life may or may not be different culturally from a typical african american but she still had to go outside right?!

If aa's aren't excommunicating soulja boi for thanking slave masters and paris dennard for being a living breathing samuel L jackson character from django then anybody can talk about black culture, she black right..

@gabi fuck them b....i ain't gon call em bitches I'm a call em unstable creatures over there.

@DOS_patos and the other fella
Jamaicans and I'm sure other caribean people say nigga.

Our etymology of it is a bit different.

Some use it like black americans, some use it as a straight insult. Reason being, for the latter, that's how massa used it to degrade us.
So it morphed into part insult part playful depending on who and how it's used, almost like it's evolution in america but still less of a "term of endearment" ish

“Nicki is black and was raised in America so that makes her African American” Wow, sorry but that is a ridiculous statement. Even Nicki knows she’s not African American smh.

 

[SeaSnake]

I view it like this being outside the culture or just right next to a culture always leaves room to a misinformed view of the culture. Maybe its viewed as sensitive but African Americans aint trying to hear no negative criticism of us from any outsider. Shit we barely like it from each other.

 

[Dwayne]

I view it like this being outside the culture or just right next to a culture always leaves room to a misinformed view of the culture. Maybe its viewed as sensitive but African Americans aint trying to hear no negative criticism of us from any outsider. Shit we barely like it from each other.

Barley? Naw. Thats our biggest problem among ourselves

 

[SeaSnake]

Now i cant speak on how legit that sensitivity is or how Caribbean and Africans who grew up in the US feel as far as inclusion.

 

[GNS]

Hip hop was not created by a Jamaican. Herc told you’ll what the deal was but some of you want to hold onto a Lie. Herc was in the AA/Black American community. DJing their parties. He put THEIR sound on the airwaves. WI’s participated and were a part of the history but not the creators smh. There are some Latinos who try to stake claim too. This is precisely why AADOS need to protect their culture. Ppl try to change narratives. AADOS created RocknRoll and Country too but just like white ppl are whitewashing hip hop they raped the culture of those genres then changed the narrative. So now AADOS are supposed to allow anyone stake claim to their creations and speak on their experience? You think the avg foreign black has knowledge of AADOS traditions, cuisine, religious beliefs, traumas, scholars, historical facts? Why do ppl think AADOS culture is something that everyone can have? Just like JayZ said, you can participate but you can’t have it.

The cuisine i.e. jambalaya and not jollof is part of the “culture”. Line, hand, juke, and other dances. Christianity and not witchcraft or traditional African religion is a part of the “culture”. AAVE and not patois. The Harlem Renaissance, HBCUs, Black Power movements, Afro hairstyles etc

Can an AADOS move to Jamaica or Nigeria or anywhere for a few years then join one their tribes or become of their ethnicity? Of course not.



“Nicki is black and was raised in America so that makes her African American” Wow, sorry but that is a ridiculous statement. Even Nicki knows she’s not African American smh.

Bitch is black and was raised here
Ho don't know shit bout trinidad ask any Trinidadian. Bitch be rapping in patois lol they hate that shit @figo

Rap came from Jamaica.
Deejaying or toasting or whatever predates rap by decades
But nah yall just happen to be hitting two turntables and be battling niggaz in the park lol ok

 

[IP360]

I think GNS got something to get off his chest. Lol

 

[L8R]

Bitch is black and was raised here
Ho don't know shit bout trinidad ask any Trinidadian. Bitch be rapping in patois lol they hate that shit @figo

Rap came from Jamaica.
Deejaying or toasting or whatever predates rap by decades
But nah yall just happen to be hitting two turntables and be battling niggaz in the park lol ok

Idc what she don’t know about Trinidad. If you’re lineage is not American Chattel Slavery you’re not AfrAm, AADOS!

... and why you so damn aggressive ?

Rap came from Jamaica ? Gtfoh

Smh, chile please .....

 

[Duwop]

Niggaz different.

It's really that simple.

Everybody ain't the same. We may share a whole bunch of similarities, but we still got a whole bunch of differences.

Shit, racism can be different based on what city or county you live in the same state forreal.

So that's why I just let people talk. There's even white people who have great insight on certain issues.

A person's experience is their story. Let them tell it.


But if you detect fuckery.... Call it out. Cuz Niggaz is liars too. People stay on some bull shit. Best thing about that though ... Let them talk long enough..n they're tell on themselves anyway


What don't come out in the wash..... Definitely gonna come out the rinse..... So let Niggaz talk..... Just listen to what they say

 

[GNS]

Idc what she don’t know about Trinidad. If you’re lineage is not American Chattel Slavery you’re not AfrAm, AADOS!

... and why you so damn aggressive ?

Rap came from Jamaica ? Gtfoh

Smh, chile please .....

My bad didn't know u were a female.
American chattel slavery...? Lol was your chattel slavery more special than those of the Caribbean or south americas?

She was raised here and she's black please tell me how she's different.

And yes it did we been doing it.
Hip hop is a little of everybodys culture fused together but the rapping was us just the facts.

I wanted to post a face too

 

[shutupGabi]

Hip hop was not created by a Jamaican. Herc told you’ll what the deal was but some of you want to hold onto a Lie. Herc was in the AA/Black American community. DJing their parties. He put THEIR sound on the airwaves. WI’s participated and were a part of the history but not the creators smh. Some Latinos try to stake claim too. This is precisely why AADOS need to protect their culture. Ppl try to change narratives. AADOS created RocknRoll and Country too but just like white ppl are whitewashing hip hop now they raped the culture of those genres then changed the narrative. So now AADOS are supposed to allow everybody to stake claim to their creations and speak on their experience? You think the avg foreign black has knowledge of AADOS traditions, cuisine, religious beliefs, traumas, scholars, historical facts? Why do ppl think AADOS culture is something everyone can have? Just like JayZ said, you can participate but you can’t have it.

The cuisine i.e. jambalaya and dirty rice and not jollof is part of their “culture”. Line, hand, juke, and other dances. Christianity and not witchcraft or traditional African religion is a part of their “culture”. AAVE not patois. The Harlem Renaissance, HBCUs, Black Power movements, Afro hairstyles etc

Can an AADOS move to Jamaica or Nigeria or anywhere for a few years then join one their tribes or become of their ethnicity? Of course not.

Lmao....are you from LSA? Cuz my points has been the exact same there as it is here. But I'll keep it brief since you wana argue things that were never said.

people that live and contribute to a place have the right to state opinions about the place they live in. I'm not not bout discuss platitudes with you...so give examples of a discussion/issue that only affects black Americans that an immigrant black person won't understand. And then give examples of times when an immigrant black hijacked said discussion. So I'm clear about what exactly we're talking about...

 

[L8R]

My bad didn't know u were a female.
American chattel slavery...? Lol was your chattel slavery more special than those of the Caribbean or south americas?

She was raised here and she's black please tell me how she's different.

And yes it did we been doing it.
Hip hop is a little of everybodys culture fused together but the rapping was us just the facts.

I wanted to post a face too

You have no concept of ethnicity, race, nationality, culture.

Lmao....are you from LSA? Cuz my points has been the exact same there as it is here. But I'll keep it brief since you wana argue things that were never said.

people that live and contribute to a place have the right to state opinions about the place they live in. I'm not not bout discuss platitudes with you...so give examples of a discussion/issue that only affects black Americans that an immigrant black person won't understand. And then give examples of times when an immigrant black hijacked said discussion. So I'm clear about what exactly we're talking about...

Why not discuss platitudes? Oh, because it will debunk your entire “we are all the same ... we can choose to be whatever ethnicity we want” nonsense. LOL

No offense but I feel like I’m tslking to a non black person because this is common sense. Like everyone else black ppl come from many different nationalities, ethnicities and cultures. Nationality can be the same i.e. American, Canadian, etc but your ethnicity does not change i.e AADOS, Trinidadian, Dominican, Irish, Sicilian etc.

Anyone can have “opinions” but you will receive push back and be reprimanded when you attempt to speak for an ethnicity that is not your own and receive push back when your opinions are incorrect or disrespectful. You will be called out when you state you are of an ethnicity you are not. Non AADOS like Luvvie will be corrected when she’s disrespectful and wrong.

Just like NON AADOS do when they disagree with AADOS Vloggers like Tariq, Seren or Yvette.

 

[shutupGabi]

Why not discuss platitudes? Oh, because it will debunk your entire “we are all the same ... we can choose to be whatever ethnicity we want” nonsense. LOL

Do you know what a platitude is? It gets us nowhere. Exactly why I asked you for specific examples (which I knew you wouldn't provide) and why I said you argued points that were never made. Cuz nobody in here said an immigrant black person or one that comes from an immigrant family has the same experience as a black american. And if you bothered reading my posts I said people can get checked for being wrong.

So unless you gon provide the specific examples I asked for, we're done here. Go have your vague ass platitude-filled "ima say shit that sounds nice" discussion with somebody else.

Oh and for the record...this ain't LSA. this "I don't think I'm talking to a real black person" shit don't work over here. These niggas know me. Back to the drawing board.

 

[L8R]

Do you know what a platitude is? It gets us nowhere. Exactly why I asked you for specific examples (which I knew you wouldn't provide) and why I said you argued points that were never made. Cuz nobody in here said an immigrant black person or one that comes from an immigrant family has the same experience as a black american. And if you bothered reading my posts I said people can get checked for being wrong.

So unless you gon provide the specific examples I asked for, we're done here. Go have your vague ass platitude-filled "ima say shit that sounds nice" discussion with somebody else.

Oh and for the record...this ain't LSA. this "I don't think I'm talking to a real black person" shit don't work over here. These niggas know me. Back to the drawing board.

Before I find the NigNore button ...

Do you know what platitude means?

The title of your thread doesn’t even make sense so I definitely know what I’m dealing with. That’s why I typed real slow and broke it all the way down for you. Don’t get mad, frustrated, and storm off when you receive a retort you don’t like. Go ahead though. Scroll on and find some dummies that’ll high five your ignorance because you obviously can’t handle the facts. Hilarious.

 

[SeaSnake]

This why some gotta chill. We not sure if yall fuck with us like that.

 

[Whis Khalifa]

This subject troubles me.

I think that black people from all over the world have the right to speak about the black experience that they've lived.

I don't want anyone that hasn't been black in America to speak on it because their opinion is formed from the outside looking in.

Black culture in America is being sold/handed to non blacks so if they're allowed in the culture don't be surprised when they have an opinion about it.

Which puts me in the awkward place of wanting to tell them to STFU because non blacks get too comfortable and don't realize when they cross the line.

Everybody has a right to their opinion and freedom of speech so anyone can speak on what they want. But people need to also accept that there are consequences for their words and actions.