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Dallas Officer Amber Guyger's trial for the murder of Botham Shem Jean begins (FOUND GUILTY)

shutupGabi said:
Not down with tellin ppl how they should process grief...this situation didnt happen to anybody but him and his ppl so sayin what you woulda did is pointless. all in all, forgiving her and moving on with his life is probly better than the alternative of being angry, drinking himself to death or whatever and throwing his life away over something that cant be changed....


With that being said, it couldn't be me and I hate the optics of it.
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Basically this right here...people really acting like carrying this around wouldn't affect his life. Grief and how you process trauma is a very real thing
 
Duwop said:
Pretty much. They still gotta go home.

You want that man bottling hop his rage for court then slamming the first person next to him when they get home?
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Nah in their magical worlds they get to give a grand Hollywood style speech that results in a life prison sentence and racism being ended because they were able to show 1 black person ain't with the bullshit...
 
Duwop said:
I'll say this about the brother who hugged shorty. I get it.

I've tried to explain this before, but some people physically cannot operate with an emotion like hate in their heary. It consumes them, obsesses them, destroy them. They can't interact with friends properly. They lash out at family. And they're haunted by dark thoughts.

I know a few people who let hate get the best of them, and it wasn't pretty regardless if they acted on it or not.

And in order for some people to get past that kinda hate, they HAVE to forgive to move on or get closure. I know y'all would have loved to see that brother kill that white woman in court. But he couldn't put this family thru that much more pain,. Cuz then the mother losses another son.


A lot of people don't truly understand hate and what it really does to them, so they also don't understand forgiveness.

To make it personal, I had to learn to forgive my father. Never one told him. Never once hugged him. But I had to get that hate out my heart before I started my family. I don't think I could have done it otherwise.

I also think that's why I was so easy about him dying. I didn't lose it feeling that I had some shit to tell him or zap out cuz I had no closure. Once I let the hate go, I could care less. My sister never let here go and she still not over it. Different people understand shit in a different way.

I can't say I would do what dude brother did. In fact I know I wouldn't. But I understand it. Because I would be desperately looking for a way to not feel like it's up to me to kill her in retaliation.

Now I know everybody is quick as fuck to judge online, and death to all crackers n all that shit. But unless you really boy to be out there busting heads, like actually taking lives for your cause... Please don't judge anybody else for not carrying out your emotions and energy. They have their own demons to deal with.
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You can tel lthey don't because of how they talk about how easy it would be to live with it. Nah that shit ain't easy at all.
 
Y'all.niggas different and I get it but to me the brother a fool and he disrespected his brother and his father. He sat there and saw that woman say under oath that she meant to kill his flesh and blood. Watched his father break down into mush same for his mom. Yet his response is to hug the killer.

Everyone means to handle pain is different I get that but this dude gave that white a chance to move on. Something his brother will never ever do.

Y'all got it though niggas cut different and that's that
 
TheBoyRo said:
I believe in god and always will but no way I’m forgiving this bitch for killing my brother. Religion for some people will make them do the absolute dumbest of things
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Forgiveness is one of the hardest things to do but God says that if you don’t forgive, he will not forgive you for anything you do. We are to do as God does, love and forgive, period. What his brother did is crazy to see because you don’t see it often but God is beyond pleased w him. This man doesn’t have to worry about anyone’s opinions or feelings. He’s done one heck of a Godly thing here and he will be rewarded in heaven for his acts.
 
I'm mad, but not mad at the same time. I'm glad I'm the type of person who doesn't need closure, but you'll never see me hug a murderer that killed one of my family.

Fuck that.:tuh:
 
I ain't exactly with dissing the brother, but that shit is EXACTLY what they looooove to see. Some good ol quick to forgive black folks. Makes them feel nice and toasty. Like the homie said, they still mad at Vick.

All kinda comments online about about lessons in love and all that shit. We the only dummies that do this shit.

YOU DONT LOVE AND FORGIVE THE MUTHAFUCKAS KILLING AND OPPRESSING YOU

fuck is wong with us man
 
BlackRain said:
Dissing his brother shows that your anger is focused on him instead of at Guyger, the jury who actually decided the sentence not the judge made up with 5 black folks on it, and the judge herself for hugging her afterwards. Those are who your anger should be directed at not the family of said murder victim. His forgiveness ain't going to embolden somebody even more because you don't need to see 1 black person do that if you're mindset is that we're already sublevel and don't deserve the same rights privileges and protections under the law. Would saying he doesn't forgive Guyger somehow prevent this from happening in the future? Because there's plenty folks that say fuck you to their family's killer in court and it don't change a gotdamn thing.
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I've not loss sight of the other factors here, but the brothers actions did strike me with the most surprise.

Clearly forgiving the killer has already sparked public reaction.
And may have swayed the sentencing and possibly how these matters are viewed in the future.

Information and perception matters. There are reasons why only certain imagery is shown.
You cannot underestimate the power those things have.
Possibly influencing different responses in a number of ways.

And I once again, want to people to consider, if they would of been so understanding if Nips brother had been the same way with Eric Holder.
I'd still feel the same way regardless, but maybe some of you need that extra perspective.
 
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The Mad Titan said:
I ain't exactly with dissing the brother, but that shit is EXACTLY what they looooove to see. Some good ol quick to forgive black folks. Makes them feel nice and toasty. Like the homie said, they still mad at Vick.

All kinda comments online about about lessons in love and all that shit. We the only dummies that do this shit.

YOU DONT LOVE AND FORGIVE THE MUTHAFUCKAS KILLING AND OPPRESSING YOU

fuck is wong with us man
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I wonder if theres been video of a Jewish person hugging and forgiving a nazi...

Smh. I won't judge those that choose to forgive.... I can't do it tho.. At least no so soon anyway
 
Kzzl said:
I've not loss sight of the other factors here, but the brothers actions did strike me with the most surprise.

Clearly forgiving the killer has already sparked public reaction.
And may have swayed the sentencing and possibly how these matters are viewed in the future.

Information and perception matters. There are reasons why only certain imagery is shown.
You cannot underestimate the power those things have.
Possibly influencing different responses in a number of ways.

And I once again, want to people to consider, if they would of been so understanding if Nips brother had been the same way with Eric Holder.
I'd still feel the same way regardless, but maybe some of you need that extra perspective.
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Nipsey's mother said after his death "Do not stay down. Do not stay stuck. Do not mourn." His grandmother said she forgives his killer...I understand how images work and how they can influence things. And that image s getting exactly the reaction some wanted. A bunch of people now attacking a member of the family of the person who was killed as if they somehow should now be held to the fire as well to the same level as the killer. You don't think that's not being noticed too. Niggas stay talking about not showing division publicly meanwhile calling him all sorts of coons and such publicly. Instead of thinking embracing that young man and showing him the support he needs niggas trying to say fuck him forever simply because he's grieving in a way that you simply don't agree with. I'm not even all that shocked at people disagreeing with him forgiving her because as I said I couldn't do it myself and still haven't actually done it in real life...but the level of vitriol being thrown at him is just ridiculous.
 
Yeah I don't subscribe to calling him a coon but he is dead as wrong.... And he should get those arrows.. The judge should get all the damn arrows..


But he potentially impacted the the decisions of the jury....
 
My thing is this.

I ain't dealing with his grief.

I may not have done what he did, but I can't judge that man for how he dealing with his grief. And I would have said the same thing if he had choked her.

I ain't congratulating him hugging her.
I wouldn't congratulate him choking her.

I wouldn't blame him for choking her.
I can't blame him for hugging her.

Reason being, that ain't my grief to bare. I don't know what he going thru.

It looked crazy from the outside looking in.... And I feel what everybody saying.... But I ain't gonna judge homie
 
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Playmaker88 said:
Forgiveness ain't magic either one could go down the exact same hole whether they say they forgive or they hate its not a word its a process
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Dude might fuck around and stalk her every day when she released. People don't know how fucked up his head is.
 
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