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Classic or Nah Vol 3: Master P - Ghetto D

Classic or Nah?


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Does 15 get it in the vault?

When it's losing in the poll?

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So who decides if an album is a "regional" classic vice a "national" classic?

Radio play?
Sales?
Record labels?
MTV?
BET?
White people?

I'm confused. IMO a classic is a classic.

I'd say if every coast fuck'd with your album, South, West, Mid, and East. If your album was bumped heavy in all those areas then it would be deem a classic in 2018 or 2019.

If we were in 1996-2005 that wouldn't be the case because music was more regional that it is now.

Prime example a southerner would say BG - It's All on U is a classic album and a East Coast cat may say Redman's Muddy Waters is a classic album and both ppl in this example would knock both albums for not being a classic because they weren't exposed in each parties back-yard.
It all goes back to if your music was accepted by all 4 pockets in the rap world when it came out at the time or was the album a slow burn and became an album to hit all 4 pockets. (See 400 degrees, this is a perfect example, along with Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt, both were slow burns)

2pac - All Eyes On U is a classic album for most, because that album hit in all 4 of those pockets of the rap world when it was released or a few weeks afterwards.
 
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I'd say if every coast fuck'd with your album, South, West, Mid, and East. If your album was bumped heavy in all those areas then it would be deem a classic in 2018 or 2019.

If we were in 1996-2005 that wouldn't be the case because music was more regional that it is now.

Prime example a southerner would say BG - It's All on U is a classic album and a East Coast cat may say Redman's Muddy Waters is a classic album and both ppl in this example would knock both albums for not being a classic because they weren't exposed in each parties back-yard.
It all goes back to if your music was accepted by all 4 pockets in the rap world when it came out at the time or was the album a slow burn and became an album to hit all 4 pockets. (See 400 degrees, this is a perfect example, along with Jay-Z's Reasonable Doubt, both were slow burns)

2pac - All Eyes On U is a classic album for most, because that album hit in all 4 of those pockets of the rap world when it was released or a few weeks afterwards.

Nah, 400 wasn't no slow burn. While Back that Azz up was a bigger hit than Ha, as soon as Ha dropped it put Juvie, 400, and Cash Money on the map.
 
Nah, 400 wasn't no slow burn. While Back that Azz up was a bigger hit than Ha, as soon as Ha dropped it put Juvie, 400, and Cash Money on the map.
Gotta disagree. I hadnt moved back to the south yet at the time Ha dropped...never heard it untill I moved back
 
What's considered a slow burn?

By the end of 99 (1 year later) 400 was certified 4x plat.
 
Gotta disagree. I hadnt moved back to the south yet at the time Ha dropped...never heard it untill I moved back

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I remember Ha song and video getting crazy play up here.

I swear it seem like for months we was talking bout which songs Juvie/CM was dissing NL on.

Could the album have taken off more after Back that Azz Up? Absolutely. but the album debut at #2 on the Hip hop charts and #9 overall. 400 wasn't a slow burn.

If anything he milked the hell outta that album w/ just 2 hit singles.
 
What's considered a slow burn?

By the end of 99 (1 year later) 400 was certified 4x plat.
it dropped in 98 though

Ha came out in October of 98

Back dat azz up released in Feb of 99, but was recorded in 98

Back dat azz up made it go that many times platinum by the end of 99
 
it dropped in 98 though
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I remember Ha song and video getting crazy play up here.

I swear it seem like for months we was talking bout which songs Juvie/CM was dissing NL on.

Could the album have taken off more after Back that Azz Up? Absolutely. but the album debut at #2 on the Hip hop charts and #9 overall. 400 wasn't a slow burn.

If anything he milked the hell outta that album w/ just 2 hit singles.
 
Nah, 400 wasn't no slow burn. While Back that Azz up was a bigger hit than Ha, as soon as Ha dropped it put Juvie, 400, and Cash Money on the map.

400 degrees, the single "Ha" wasn't really that "single" at the time it came out for most of the Southern coast folks, I still remember "Soulja Rags" being talked about more so than HA, soulja rags the single, HA was a slow build in other areas of the country including the South, Locally, here in LA though and the areas around LA, ppl were on the single and was use to that song and understood the commentary of it, and plus ppl locally were already on the CMR wave and their roster.


AT the time, folks were still clinging on to the No Limit wave, CMR was the up and coming act for ppl outside of LA and MS, and parts of TX. They were not really big to a lot folks outside of the Louisiana area, before HA, ppl fuck'd with CMR, but not as heavy as those from LA, MS and maybe AL,

That's why I said it was a slow burn for that album 400 degrees to pop outside of what I mentioned, it took ppl time to get on the 400 degrees "HA" wave, We were already on it, but the rest of the country hadn't got latch'd on.

Once Back that Ass Came out that's when 400 degrees took off and was felt in all 4 pockets of the rap world
 
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'Ha' made my homies by the album and I was in SoCal. I remember because they came over telling me how dope it was so we had a "listening party". I didn't know the names of the songs so I said 'Yeah' woulda been a better single because I originally hated 'Ha'.
 
I need a list of albums to drop around that time and how much they sold. I don't remember a time in hip hop where going 4x platinum in a year was considered a slow burn. But maybe my memory is shakey.
 
If 4x plat in a year is a slow burn , then diamond in a week is the norm

It became that because of the song Back that Ass Up and then the video was made for that song. That song added more sells to the album, even to the point where Juvie added 2 more songs (maybe more) and re-released the album. He even shot a video for "Follow Me Now" or something. Added Jay-Z on the Ha remix.

When that album came out, it was still somewhat felt like a local release until "Back that Ass Up" came out and HA caught.
 
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