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Classic or Nah Vol 18: UGK - Ridin Dirty
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Dilla Deaf
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Don't put my ears in that conversation, nigga.
but off top, UGK's Ridin Dirty is classic and has influence many of your favorite rappers who became legends themselves after this album came out....
and for ya'll New Yorkers --- if not for UGK , Jay's rise wouldn't had been has high as he did if he didn't get Big PImpin with UGK...that help put Jay over in the South....
Dilla Deaf
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Maybe for the east, but nobody in the South was really checking for Jay hard until that Big Pimpin collab ...
Dilla Deaf
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So he sold 5 mill and nobody outside the east coast was checkin for jay?
Yup. Cats weren't really checking for Jay like that down here in the Dirty
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5 mil, it's easy to reach that number from the east coast alone with NYC / Boston / Philly .....so that number doesn't mean anything
UGK brought an whole other market for Jay-Z, actually two markets (South and West ) .. because the both regions always been closed with each other music wise / music business.
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lol that's not true fam. That's like saying only the westcoast were checkin for Pac.
Dilla Deaf
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Actually the South was heavily checking for Pac , UGK, Outkast, Geto Boyz and Hypnotize Camp ... UGK collab with Jay legitimize him to sou thern fans.....I was there and I remember after Big Pimpin comign out, I remember the true shift to Jay started then...just stating facts from my perspective -- not saying your wrong but from my perspective of the places I went to in the South, I remember that shift.
Money Ain't a Thang with JD accomplished that
BDP™️
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Yep...put Too $hort on his album in aftermath of the East/West beef and Big and Pacs death...
Again...get a west coast legend cosign to endear himself to a certain market
Herbal Kint
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The Hue
Black Made. Black Raised.
I posted this pic to see some of yall's answers. Imo all 9 of these albums are classic. The legacy and influence of these albums can still be seen today. All 9.
Knock_Twice
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Nah, Jay wasn't getting no play in the South until Big Pimping, that really got him noticed out here.
Even Master P had Jay on Silk album which didn't do anything for Jay's rep here.
Jay even came to the N.O. and would ride around the city in them P.T. cruisers Baby would give him, Uptown, and the nigga still didn't get any type of rep doing that. Niggas wasn't checking for Jay like that in the South.
Even (Money Aint a Thang) he did with J.D. was light-weight here, that song wasn't a song that ppl in the south really fuck'd with like that. It was a good main-stream record, good for the radio, but the streets/hood wasn't fucking wit that song. The song was considered to poppish to be riding around in a cutlass. Ppl weren't getting off to that song in the clubs, wasn't a club-banger in other words.
That UGK feature gave that dude the shine he needed and the shine came because of Pimp and Bun, (really Pimp) who pushed the song and video, Pimp made the video pop in the South, Bun did his thing, but that Pimp C verse is what did it. When niggas (hood/street) niggas saw the visual in that video (Benz, fur coat, Gloria bad ass) and his verse was dayum near connected to the visual in the video, that's why Jay popped off in the south because of those 2 and half minutes Pimp was in that video.
That's how Jay got his shine down here. Pimp C verse and the visuals in that video took that video to another level and that is what made niggas start listening to Jay down here. Take Pimp C off that song, and that song will fall in line with Juvenile's Ha, Master P and Silk's song as duds within the South.
If you don't believe what I'm saying is true, come to a club/party/out-ting, college/HS/middle school party around that time the song came out and you'll hear dayum near everybody rapping word for word Pimp's verse Lol.
Certified Club banger when Pimp C part came on.
I wanna say right around the time The Dynasty album came out that's when his wave down here really took off.
Even Master P had Jay on Silk album which didn't do anything for Jay's rep here.
Jay even came to the N.O. and would ride around the city in them P.T. cruisers Baby would give him, Uptown, and the nigga still didn't get any type of rep doing that. Niggas wasn't checking for Jay like that in the South.
Even (Money Aint a Thang) he did with J.D. was light-weight here, that song wasn't a song that ppl in the south really fuck'd with like that. It was a good main-stream record, good for the radio, but the streets/hood wasn't fucking wit that song. The song was considered to poppish to be riding around in a cutlass. Ppl weren't getting off to that song in the clubs, wasn't a club-banger in other words.
That UGK feature gave that dude the shine he needed and the shine came because of Pimp and Bun, (really Pimp) who pushed the song and video, Pimp made the video pop in the South, Bun did his thing, but that Pimp C verse is what did it. When niggas (hood/street) niggas saw the visual in that video (Benz, fur coat, Gloria bad ass) and his verse was dayum near connected to the visual in the video, that's why Jay popped off in the south because of those 2 and half minutes Pimp was in that video.
That's how Jay got his shine down here. Pimp C verse and the visuals in that video took that video to another level and that is what made niggas start listening to Jay down here. Take Pimp C off that song, and that song will fall in line with Juvenile's Ha, Master P and Silk's song as duds within the South.
If you don't believe what I'm saying is true, come to a club/party/out-ting, college/HS/middle school party around that time the song came out and you'll hear dayum near everybody rapping word for word Pimp's verse Lol.
Certified Club banger when Pimp C part came on.
I wanna say right around the time The Dynasty album came out that's when his wave down here really took off.
Knock_Twice
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This Riding Dirty album Jay himself said, he bought this album about 3 times or more, he kept losing it and he kept having to buy the album, one of his favorite albums.
This album was the reason why the nigga Jay got these dudes on the song Big Pimping in the 1st place
That nigga Jay knew how hard this album was and the impact it had at the time it came out Lol
Impact
This album was the reason why the nigga Jay got these dudes on the song Big Pimping in the 1st place
That nigga Jay knew how hard this album was and the impact it had at the time it came out Lol
Impact
Big Pimpin did more for UGK than it did for Jay Z. Jay was already an established star and was arguably the biggest name in hip hop. If UGK wasn't on Big Pimpin that song would've still been a hit. Like I said before if any southern collaboration helped Jay it was Money Aint a Thang. I can understand if you say that southerners weren't bumping Jay's music like that, cool. But to make it seem like Big Pimpin did more for Jay in the south is revisionist history.
Knock_Twice
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I have to disagree folk, UGK had their own fan-base already. How did it help UGK when East Coast niggas still today don't play UGK?
UGK fan-base is the South and the West coast, sprinkle in Midwest, so how did Jay-Z help UGK?
Jay was a star in the East Coast eyes, we respected him as an East Coast rapper, but niggas down here wasn't running out to the Circuit City picking up Jay's album when he dropped until UGK came through with the feature.
Take Pimp C and Bun off that song and the majority of niggas in the south don't fuck wit him.
Truth be told,
Could you name a CD that J.D. made that touched the hood/streets?
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T. Sanford
T. Sanford/Trill Doggy Dog (Legion Of Trill)
Man that is true ass hell. When Pimp verse comes on then everybody in the club will recite his lyrics like the song came out yesterday. Usually any UGK song feature that pop off in the club & everybody repeat Pimp's verse. Break'em Off is another example. Niggas can't wait until Pimp's part comes up. Another thing about the Big Pimpin video is that Pimp had just bought that Benz either the day before or same day as the video shoot then he knocked down Gloria after the video lol
Knock_Twice
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Name me a CD, that the hood/streets/basketball, football players/college students, high school students, middle school students, hood bitches, welfare, W.I.C. participants in the South around 98 played from J.D? Better yet, name me a song by this nigga J.D. that you think popped off in the streets? other than Ghost town DJ
What CD that J.D. dropped that had niggas who rode in cutlass, regals, box chevys, caprice playing? Everyday, AT night going out on a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights?
What CD from J.D. niggas played? So how did that "Money Aint A Thang" song helped Jay in the South? When niggas in the south wasn't even playing J.D.? Lol
You really think niggas were riding around the city in South listening to J.D.? Lol. No folk, that nigga wasn't getting played
What CD that J.D. dropped that had niggas who rode in cutlass, regals, box chevys, caprice playing? Everyday, AT night going out on a Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights?
What CD from J.D. niggas played? So how did that "Money Aint A Thang" song helped Jay in the South? When niggas in the south wasn't even playing J.D.? Lol
You really think niggas were riding around the city in South listening to J.D.? Lol. No folk, that nigga wasn't getting played
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