FEATURED Israel Prime Minister Says Country Is "At War"
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Gray Matter
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Gray Matter
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Looks like Iran hit something important. The Zionists have put up "digital clouds" to hide the damage to Tel Nof and Nevatim air bases.
مثل اینکه اسرائیلیا پایگاه هایی که دیشب شخم خوردند رو با digital clouds سانسور کردند تا ماهواره ها نتونند تصاویری از اونجا ثبت کنند! این نشون ازین هست که اتفاقات مهمی درین پایگاه ها رخ داده
مثل اینکه اسرائیلیا پایگاه هایی که دیشب شخم خوردند رو با digital clouds سانسور کردند تا ماهواره ها نتونند تصاویری از اونجا ثبت کنند! این نشون ازین هست که اتفاقات مهمی درین پایگاه ها رخ داده
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According to whose reporting?
Elzo69Renaissance
I dare one of you niggas to scream No Diddy!
I actually wanna see this happen
Gray Matter
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Since you are Iranian, I have been wondering something. Is Khamenei the main obstacle to y'all getting nuclear bombs (because he thinks that they are inconsistent with Islam)? Or is there a general division among the top leaders, with some in favor and some opposed?
Let me first explain the compatibility of the nuclear bomb with Islam.
According to the circumstances, Islamic rules are divided into two types: changeable and unchangeable.
Khamenei's decision to *have* nuclear weapons is subject to change. But using it and killing people is always forbidden and in conflict with Islam and cannot be changed.
Yes, there are different opinions among Iranian government officials for having nuclear weapons.
Our main decision is Khamenei's decree. And in my opinion, this decree has a political aspect, not an Islamic one, because:
From a political point of view, nuclear weapons are a lever to prevent an attack on Iran, as well as a factor to isolate and sanction Iran even from China and Russia, and may turn Iran into North Korea.
Considering that there are enough deterrent levers in the region to prevent an attack on Iran, for example, closing the Strait of Hormuz or destroying Aramco facilities and destroying the Petrodollar or attacking nuclear facilities and nuclear explosion of Israel, etc.
At present, there is no real need for an atomic bomb, and nuclear energy is a good tool for negotiating with the West.
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Interesting. I fear that sooner or later, Israel is going to use a nuke against Iran.
This is what I am thinking. Sooner or later Israel is going to turn off enough of the populations of the US and Europe that people are going to come to power in these countries who are not going to defend Israel when it is the one that starts something. That would leave Israel to face Iran alone, which if war were to break out would inflict a lot of damage on Israel. So my thinking is that in a situation like that I can see them resorting to nukes.
I am still not sure if the deterrents you mention would be enough to actually deter Israel.
You are right, Israel is falling and when it has nothing to lose, it will do anything, even if Iran has nuclear weapons.
In addition to the deterrent factors that I mentioned, which are sufficient in my opinion, the distance between Iran and nuclear weapons is very small and it is in the stage of nuclear weapons. This means that the time interval for building several nuclear weapons in Iran has been reduced to a few days or weeks.
My guess is not everything, and we don't know exactly why the non-nuclear deterrence strategy was chosen.
Iran's main goal is to become a regional hegemon, and nuclear weapons seem to be an obstacle to this. And mastering Israel is not the main goal, but a problem that exists on the way.
I don't know how to call black people so as not to offend. If I used a bad word unintentionally, tell me so that I can correct it and apologize. Let me use the word black because it is not an insult in my country's culture.
I have always wondered how the black American community reconciled with whites after years of slavery and oppression. I see in the media that black people are oppressed and insulted in America and racism still continues. Black people are always the ones doing wrong things. Blacks are always the poorest. And they have not been influential in the American society and are like second citizens.
Is the above correct? And if true why is there no reaction.
Maybe because of my culture and country (Iran), it is strange for me that it is not a struggle.
I have always wondered how the black American community reconciled with whites after years of slavery and oppression. I see in the media that black people are oppressed and insulted in America and racism still continues. Black people are always the ones doing wrong things. Blacks are always the poorest. And they have not been influential in the American society and are like second citizens.
Is the above correct? And if true why is there no reaction.
Maybe because of my culture and country (Iran), it is strange for me that it is not a struggle.
AZTG
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Don't look all the way to America for your answers.
Look at how your country treats Kurds and Azeris.
Don't get me wrong, Israel is the perpetrator in this conflict and Iran has every right to defend itself, but let's not act like Iran is a democracy with freedom for all flowing.
You don't need to look to see how African Americans in America reconciled with white people. Just look at how Kurds are reconciling with the Persians in Iran. It's not by choice or out of love for country. It's not having a choice and doing what you need to do to survive living in a country as a minority under majority oppression.
There is a big difference between the problem of Iran and African Americans.
Iran is not the country of Persian people, but it is made up of different ethnic groups. It has been like this for thousands of years and no one has enslaved a nation or occupied a land. I am not Persian either, but I am Iranian. The largest population of Iran is Azeri, the leader of Iran is an Azeri, and there is no racism in Iran. Azeri and Kurds belong to Iran, but separatists are Iran's enemies. Or at least not the way the Hollywood media portrays it.
In Iran, there are political and separatist populations with ethnic commonalities that all Iranian people have problems with.
This does not mean the existence of democracy in Iran. We have our own problems, but the Hollywood news about Iran is false.
I think I got my answer, there is a cultural difference between us. In my country, there is a culture called martyrdom.
If you don't mind, I sent your comment to my friends. It is very strange for us that there is a point of view that thinks there are people named Fars who have captured other tribes.
AZTG
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This is not true at all.
Kurds have been asking for the right to speak their own language and educate their kids in their own language for decades and everytime they protest, the protests are put down very bloody. Hundreds are killed by the Iranian government every time.
You are occupying Kurdish land and then calling them separatists for fighting for it. You also support Syria against the Kurds, and join Turkey in border excursions across the Iraqi border against Kurds because you fear if Kurds are successful anywhere else, the Kurds in the land you are occupying might get enbolded.
Just 2 years ago your revolutionary guards killed a 22 year old Kurdish girl by beating her to death for having her hijab loose.
In the subsequent protests, your governemnt killed hundreds, arrested thousands.
There is no way you are unaware of all this.
Iran is not a country with democracy and freedom of all. It is a religious dictatorship that outlaws people's freedom to worship and speak their mother tongues and uses violence to oppress it's minorities.
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AZTG
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Just because Israel is wrong in this conflict and Iran has the right to defend itself does not mean all of Irans offenses should be forgiven.
The fact that you are from Iran and acting like all the facts I laid down don't exist is a problem with the human condition.
This isn't just specific to Iranians, all humans do it. Iranians for a example with violently occupy Kurdish lands but then call out Israel for doing the same to Palestine. Israelis on the other hand consider themselves to be very anti oppression and pro democracy but will commit genocide against Palestinians and the Israeli people will be like oh but that's different.
Human beings always find it easier to point out oppression when it's happening elsewhere but tend to not notice the oppression that is happening in their backyards, or worse yet, they call out oppression over there but justify their country doing the same.
This is part of the human condition and reason oppression still exists.
The fact that you are from Iran and acting like all the facts I laid down don't exist is a problem with the human condition.
This isn't just specific to Iranians, all humans do it. Iranians for a example with violently occupy Kurdish lands but then call out Israel for doing the same to Palestine. Israelis on the other hand consider themselves to be very anti oppression and pro democracy but will commit genocide against Palestinians and the Israeli people will be like oh but that's different.
Human beings always find it easier to point out oppression when it's happening elsewhere but tend to not notice the oppression that is happening in their backyards, or worse yet, they call out oppression over there but justify their country doing the same.
This is part of the human condition and reason oppression still exists.
Yes, last year's protests were due to problems with religious laws. Not because of the girl's ethnicity, but because of the mandatory hijab. And there were no ethnic protests. We also participated in those protests. Political groups with a small population, which are often present in Iraq, have nothing to do with the Iranian Kurds and took advantage of this problem of the Iranian people. I know that political complications in Iran have become a tool to spread lies against Iranians and have misled you.
Read a little history. Kurds are Iranian tribes and have never had a separate land. . Kurds, like Turks and other ethnic groups, participate in the government of Iran. You should know that the majority of Iranian soldiers are Kurds and Lors.
I never said that Iran is completely free and democratic. Yes, we have a problem and we protest against the government's oppression, and we consider the division of Iran into smaller countries to be the biggest external threat to Iran. A policy that America and Zionism have invested in and created terrorist groups on Iran's borders. We call them Pantrek and Pankord. This is different with Kurds and Turks.
In Iran, it is free to speak the mother tongue, and only education in schools is in Persian. I think in America everyone should have Latin letters in schools. This was the strangest scene I heard. Unfortunately, Iran is very weak in the field of media.
AZTG
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Lmaooo at read a little history.
Persian history is all about conquest. Some of the biggest empires in the world were Persian. Kurds never had their own land because Persian/Iran never let them.
Let's talk about history then.
In 1945, the Azerbaijan People's Government seceded from Iran. These people seceded because they didn't consider themselves Iranian. The first thing they did when they secede is use the Azerbaijani language in their schools because they were tired of being forced to educate their kids in Farsi.
In 1946, the Republic of Mahabad seceded from Iran. These were Kurds. They seceded because they didn't consider themselves Iranian. One of the first things they did is make Kurdish their official language and started using Kurdish in their schools because they were tired of being forced to educate their kids in Farsi.
This was the demands of the government of Mahabad.
- Autonomy for the Iranian Kurds within the Iranian state.
- The use of Kurdish as the medium of education and administration.
- The election of a provincial council for Kurdistan to supervise state and social matters.
Clearly these people don't consider themselves Iranian and want self rule.
The Iranian military brutally put down both of these seceded states and hung hundreds. The first thing they did in Mabahad was burn all the Kurdish books.
In 1979, the Kurds revolted again. Over a 100,000 Kurds joined the fight. This is a huge number for a people's with no resources like guns and ammunition. This uprising lasted years. It was eventually put down by the Iranian government. The casualties was in the 50 thousand range.
During the Iran-Iraq war, Iran accused Iranian Kurds of collaboration with the enemy and attacked and killed thousands. After the war, Iran sent armed forces to heavily Kurdish populated areas and started a campaign of heavy oppression.
In 2004, a new Kurdish uprising started in Iran that's been going on and off since then.
These are just the last 70 years and all of this is documented.
There are over two Kurds in Khorasan because the Iran government forcefully relocated them in an effort to assimilate them
I get it if you don't learn this in school. Your education is handpicked by supreme leader end of the day. Just don't act like Kurds and Azerbaijanis in Iran want to be a part of Iran. They don't consider themselves Iranian. You are forcefully keeping them as a part of Iran and oppressing them on an ethnic level.
And I haven't even got into Balochistan.
And this isn't even considering the religious and gender discrimination your government is behind.
I'm not sure if you are actually misinformed or if this is your true thoughts due to years of propaganda. Either way you can read unbiased books on all the topics I listed.