2019 NFL Off-Season Thread

Running back Melvin Gordon has informed the Los Angeles Chargers that unless he receives a new contract, he will not report to training camp and he will demand a trade, his agent Fletcher Smith told ESPN.

Smith said he and Gordon did not want to go this route, but because of the lack of progress in negotiations and the offers the Chargers made this offseason, they felt it necessary to voice their displeasure in an effort to reach a more satisfying outcome, whether with a new contract or a trade.

Gordon, 26, is scheduled to be heading into the last year of his contract, a fifth-year option worth $5.6 million.

Other top running backs -- Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Le'Veon Bell -- recently have received new deals, and Gordon wants to be the next one added to that illustrious list. He is unwilling to take a Chargers offer that does not put him near the salaries of those top running backs.
Gordon has been voted to two Pro Bowls and rushed for an average of 5.1 yards per carry and recorded 14 total touchdowns in 2018.

Unless the two sides can resolve their differences before the Chargers' training camp, slated to open July 24 in Costa Mesa, California, this will be a contentious issue that shadows the team, much as the Chargers had to deal with an unsigned Joey Bosa in the summer of 2016.
Smith said Gordon is dug in and discouraged with the lack of progress in the talks

He must be watching too much NBA/ Soccer news. The NFL doesn't always play that shit, Haha.
 
He plays the wrong position to be trying that shit.

Pickup Austin Ekeler in fantasy.
 
He was trying to get shot. Cop was nicer than I would have been. Dude's too big for all that grappling shit.

Bro..hate to agree. But if I was that cop and homeboy came rushing at me like that..im shooting...ill try to aim for lower body or something..but you getting popped fam. I ain't wrestling w yo big ass
 
Injuries is what messing up gordon stats he doesn't have the numbers to get a new contract so soon....shit we play them week 1 let that nigga pull a bell move
 
He plays the wrong position to be trying that shit.

Pickup Austin Ekeler in fantasy.

Yes and no...yes you can get production from alot of no name backs. But I would put him in the elite RB class, not too many of them dudes around...that boy been consistently great the last 3 years. He had injuries last year and probably does not want to risk getting seriously hurt during a contract year, which will severely impact him and his agent at the negotiating table. Dude still on his rookie deal, so he ain't been getting paid like he should have. Gotta strike while the iron hot. Btw IMO, Ekeler a good change of back RB, he ain't hold it down while Gordon was out last year
 
Bro..hate to agree. But if I was that cop and homeboy came rushing at me like that..im shooting...ill try to aim for lower body or something..but you getting popped fam. I ain't wrestling w yo big ass

I may have gone for the legs prior to that taser getting shrugged off with ease. I've had stronger reactions to my lady pinching me. After we've tussled, then I've tased you, then you rushed me in response... I gotta lay you down.
 
This is so stupid smh

Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft reportedly led a discussion at the latest collective-bargaining session with the National Football League Players Association about expanding the NFL regular season to 18 games.

On Thursday, Andrew Beaton of the Wall Street Journal reported the players' union "resisted" the idea, which could create "potentially billions of dollars annually." The owners also floated a proposal that would cap each player's appearances at 16 per season as a possible compromise.
 
This is so stupid smh

Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft reportedly led a discussion at the latest collective-bargaining session with the National Football League Players Association about expanding the NFL regular season to 18 games.

On Thursday, Andrew Beaton of the Wall Street Journal reported the players' union "resisted" the idea, which could create "potentially billions of dollars annually." The owners also floated a proposal that would cap each player's appearances at 16 per season as a possible compromise.

So healthy players would have to sit 2 games?
 
Basically. I’m not for an 18 game season but if it were to happen, why not just have 2 bye weeks?

NFL got the worst player union. This shouldn't even be the conversation being had. Preseason needs to be cut to at least 3 games, Preferably 2. Also getting rid of Thursday games should be a priority. I heard some of the interviews where players discuss the shape their bodies are in on Thursdays n I can't see Why their union ain't making a stronger push to get rid of that shit. Most the games wind up being trash anyways.
 
NFL got the worst player union. This shouldn't even be the conversation being had. Preseason needs to be cut to at least 3 games, Preferably 2. Also getting rid of Thursday games should be a priority. I heard some of the interviews where players discuss the shape their bodies are in on Thursdays n I can't see Why their union ain't making a stronger push to get rid of that shit. Most the games wind up being trash anyways.

Getting rid of thurs nite gms?! Nigga is u crazy. Them shits is a cash cow, they never gettin rid of them.
 

Smith: 18 NFL games not in players' best interest

MIAMI BEACH, Fla. -- Don't hold your breath waiting for an 18-game NFL regular season unless the players' association has a major change of heart.

NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith spoke with ESPN on Friday at a union-led gathering of former players to discuss a variety of topics, including negotiations on the collective bargaining agreement, the power of players using their voices and making their own economic decisions, and of course, the topic that won't go away -- an 18-game season.

Smith confirmed that the NFL raised the idea of such a schedule in early labor negotiations, as the Wall Street Journal first reported Thursday, with indications that it isn't something he sees happening.

"I don't see an 18-game schedule -- under any circumstance -- being in the best interest of our players," Smith said. "If somebody wants to make an 18-game proposal, we'll look at it. I haven't seen anything that makes me think that it would be good for the players."

Significant questions remain about the 18/16 proposal -- which would put 18 games on teams' schedules but limit individual players to playing in a maximum of 16 of them -- including how the plan would affect wages, hours, working conditions, health and safety, quality of play and players' pensions.

Currently, players must play at least three seasons to be eligible for a pension. The union estimates the average NFL career lasts 3.4 years, but an 18-game season would drop that to 2.8 years, or just below the league requirement to be eligible for a pension.

"Fans and media discuss what would happen to ratings and revenue or whether [18 games] is a good idea or bad idea. For us, it comes down to who players are as men and is it good for us," Smith told ESPN. "If a coal miner is willing to spend more time in the hole, does it likely result in more money? Yeah. Is that a good thing for him as a person? Probably not. That's the question nobody confronts. It's easy to say it's more money. But is it good for us? The answer is no."

Also at the surface are questions like how teams would deal with how to competitively manage players on a 16-game limit over 18 games, plus how roster sizes would be affected.

"Why is it our job to figure out how to make 18 games work as players? You tell someone you're going to work longer and you figure out how to make it work? That doesn't work," Smith said. "It's not our job to put that square peg in the round hole."

Talks between the NFL and NFLPA, aimed at reaching a new CBA, are set to intensify in July to try to reach an agreement before the start of the 2019 regular season. A source tells ESPN's Josina Anderson those talks will begin Friday and go through July 19.

The current CBA expires in 2021.

There is no timeline for a new CBA getting done, Smith said, though he characterized negotiations with the NFL as "positive." Among his goals are making continued improvements in former players' benefits and engaging young fans in the game the way the NBA has with its base because of annual league-altering free-agency periods.

One of the topics that will likely be on the table in the coming week is making changes in the CBA that benefit core NFL players, the large group between the league's highest-paid players and rookies. Several potential routes exist here, such as adjusting the salary-cap minimums each team is forced to spend in hopes of getting more guaranteed money in contracts or shortening lengths/making restrictions on rookie contracts.

Both sides hope a new agreement can be reached rather than resorting to an NFL lockout like the one before the 2011 season, or a player strike like the ones that occurred in the 1970s and 1980s.

Smith is in Miami Beach for the weekend as part of the NFLPA's former player summer getaway, a link-up with retired players geared toward post-career professional development opportunities. But next week, it's back to negotiations with NFL owners to work out what he hopes is a "fair and balanced" new CBA in terms of economics and work rules.