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i feel you lil broYou’re making it seem like I was wound up
I really was asking what does this have to do with the current argument
I didn’t know it was you going off on a tangent
Also don’t play me like I was waiting for the day someone brought up hibbert
Somebody said something nonsensical and I leapt into action that’s all
Let’s relax there buddy
The pacers have consistently in the mix for the past 30 years
They’ll be right there as a 7th seed next season
Small bump in the roadPacers going to regret not resetting after things after the Haliburton injury
It was a good run but the league moves fast
I dont see the upside with them than being a playin/bottom tier playoff team
Small bump in the road
They’ll be competitive
Its been over buddy.Billy Donovan is selling his home I guess it’s really over
Btw
I didn’t know bro lived in Lincoln Park
Yeah they aren’t a contender but for a team like the pacers they have been perfectly fine being in the mix as a 6-8 seedFrom 1 game away from winning the finals to being competitive
I look at things from the lense of how can you be a top 4 seed in your conference
7/8 seed seems like their ceiling
I dont think this team is going to be that good going forward.....competitive yes
They shouldve been trying to get younger, not older
Thats why this trade was so dumb....Assuming Haliburton is healthy you're never going to pick this high again
You need to get some more young high level talent with upside in the door
How @southsil4lil expects every team except his to carry it when things don't shake their way...Yeah they aren’t a contender but for a team like the pacers they have been perfectly fine being in the mix as a 6-8 seed
I’m going by their general philosophy
Even if they go through a down period or another year, in the grand scheme they are still fine
The only player they need to worry about is Hali and even with another year of mediocrity he will be 27 so it’s not that big of a deal
It’s not a huge rush
He’s a forward thinker and he’s technically right it’s just the situation might not be as urgent all the timeHow @southsil4lil expects every team except his to carry it when things don't shake their way...
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Yeah they aren’t a contender but for a team like the pacers they have been perfectly fine being in the mix as a 6-8 seed
I’m going by their general philosophy
Even if they go through a down period or another year, in the grand scheme they are still fine
The only player they need to worry about is Hali and even with another year of mediocrity he will be 27 so it’s not that big of a deal
It’s not a huge rush
Siakam is 32 and Zubac and 29 and are both in their primesBut thats the point Im making....you're saying they'll be ok if if they have another down year
Whats the plan? How do you go from 7/8 to a top 4 team in your conference?
You're never going to be this bad again to draft someone and free agents arent going to Indiana....they do own most of their picks going forward so a trade is the most likely
Trading for your pick back like two weeks before your franchise player blows out their achilles was such a blessing and they squandered it on Zubac(who I do like)
Siakam and Zubac going to be in their 30s this season....I would be trying to have a younger core around Haliburton so he doesnt have to do as much
Siakam is 32 and Zubac and 29 and are both in their primes
Siakam got another 2 seasons of high level play and then he can get on
They already messed up their chance at a younger draft pick but it’s cool bro
Pacers can still be a 4th seed with some moves in the next couple of years
It’s not dire
In two years the pacers could be the best team in the east with a Tyler Herro/Tyrese Haliburton backcourtI think teams need as many bites at the apple as possible especially small market teams..... now the Pacers have all their eggs in the Tyrese Haliburton basket and have to hope he's close to what he was.
This conversation would be irrelevant if they got Zubac and the top 4 pick....they gambled and lost bad though
I do think they acquired Zubac though with the thought of if it doesnt workout he could easily be flipped again something else
This isn't the same eastern conference that they left when healthy and its going to get better this summer
We'll see what they do though and how they approach the next year
Plz confirm that Nets one
Anything is better than the shit we got right now
By the way @southsil4lil I’m hearing Acuff’s name thrown around the 6th pick. What you think? Idk anything about him just read that he’s a PG (we have that In abundance) and he could be an elite scoring guard.