@ Non East Coast Posters, Do You Have TM101 Ranked Over..

I'm from the south and I've never listened to one Jeezy album.
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it’s because what these folks are doing is they’re taking a very extensively, genius album and comparing it to a barebones, black and white, basic album that Young Jeezy made. Young Jeezy and Raekwon are in two completely different schools bare rap. The problem with a lot of conversations is that people don’t wanna come out and just say that a lot of the rap discussions are what they are because you’re asking a specific coast to go up against another one where lyrics and being not just technically good, and lyrically good, you had to be almost genius level intellect to structure your bars. Then you get folks from the south, who let because they like the album and it’s simplistic and basic rhyme scheme, make them think that a basic rapper making the album you enjoy is better than a lyrical rapper making the album that you enjoy.

I think folks are taking the albums that folks deem as genius albums and comparing them to the simple albums that made an impact in a major region and casting an overview of how other folks from other areas of the country didn't go crazy over said genius album.

TM101 was a movement compared to what Raekon album did when it dropped. TM101 stopped time here in the south.

For Example, Nas album, his 1st one, I made a post or thread on how I couldn't find 10 people in the South that bumped that album, but if you ask the average podcaster or radio head in one of these tri-states or anybody for that matter in 2026, they may very well talk about how good that album was or rank it as Nas best album, when in real time, that album go no burn in places in the South and on the West coast, in real time

It more so (to me) have to do with 'impact' in the South or other areas vs the quality of the albums that may be compared.

Hot Boyz dropped Gurella Warefare in the Summer of 1999, in the south, that album stopped time, now compare it to that Nas album or Jay-Z Reasonable Doubt, folks in the South would pick GW over Nas 1st album, now is it a better album that Nas? I don't know, I, personally haven't heard Nas 1st album, but I ran GW until the tape popped that 99 summer.

It just to me when these topics are brought up, (I love them) it makes me go back into real time to really get the essence of how the music scene really was when the albums or singles dropped.

You still have folks in 2026 thinking Jay-Z Reasonable Doubt was a big album when it dropped in real time, when it wasn't

All of Master P albums especially Ghetto D was more Impactful than any of Jayz albums before Hard Knock Life, Nas or any rapper from the tri-state area not named Biggie, Mase or DMX
 
In 1995 in the South, (What was going on)

This album got no play in the South (in real time) not sure why we are asking folks this question in 2026, when most of the folks weren't listening to rap music in 1995


I never heard that other album 5 times anywhere in the South. I've never heard any soul in the south requesting this album or recommending anybody to go cop this album from your Circuit City, or Walmart, or any record shop


I know a very few people (at that time) in the South didn't even knew who Raekon was, put it like this, Raekon was more known by most niggas in the south when he jumped on Rick Ross song.

No Diss, I just like to live in the moment and I think that's why the tweet/question was asked to see how the temp was when that album dropped, unless he's talking about present time. idk

In 1995, that shit got no play in the South by nobody other than a nigga who was visiting a HBCU from NY or the tri-state area. And even then, that nigga was called weird for listening to that.

That shit in the tri-state just didn't get any run down here.

Bruh what? I don't know what you part of the south you're from, but I grew up in SC and had ties to FL, GA, and NC around that same time and everyone knew about the Purple Tape. Then calling out that Rick Ross collab as if Rae and Outkast weren't the first ones to make popular East/South collab is crazy. You must have been in a coma or something.
 
Bruh what? I don't know what you part of the south you're from, but I grew up in SC and had ties to FL, GA, and NC around that same time and everyone knew about the Purple Tape. Then calling out that Rick Ross collab as if Rae and Outkast weren't the first ones to make popular East/South collab is crazy. You must have been in a coma or something.
He's not wrong, at all. And while SC is the South I'm sure he's talking about Louisiana. I'm in Arkansas and share the sentiment.
 
Bruh what? I don't know what you part of the south you're from, but I grew up in SC and had ties to FL, GA, and NC around that same time and everyone knew about the Purple Tape. Then calling out that Rick Ross collab as if Rae and Outkast weren't the first ones to make popular East/South collab is crazy. You must have been in a coma or something.

Let's do it this way. I


In 1995. (Real Time) I take it we are hitting mid 40s, late 30s, Brotha, you was 10 years old, or under 12. You wasn't asking your mother to go take you to the store and buy no dayum Raekon, Nobody under 15 was doing that. Nor were your friends of that age doing that. And let's cut the crap out that you were in your bedroom listening to this Album at 13? or listening to it in your parents house, most black parents didn't play that shit, you listened to that shit with the door closed in your room, and mainly it was the older sibling listening to the rap music, in 1995.
Most black parents in the south didn't like rap music.
You couldn't buy albums at 12 without an adult, present and nobody in the South under 15 is spending their allowance on a dayum Raekon album.

Kids under 14 years old in 1995, didn't know about a dayum Raekon.. In the South



You wasn't doing that shit in no 1995

In real time 1995, you had to listen to the music either at a House Party (in which most House Parties were given by your parents, who played the Blues or old songs, or that older sibling and in the south, they wasn't playing no Raekon at a house party) , Radio, or Family Function or on a college campus, Brotha, you weren't outside,, and if you were 'outside' the kids in your neighborhood listened to the shit that was on your radio the local shit that everybody played in that area.

Let's go deeper:

What major single off that album did Raekon have on the radio in 1994 or 1995 (summer of 1995) that was getting played on the Southern radio stations like that? Name it. Most kids/teens heard music on the Radio especially if you didn't have older siblings or that Uncle or cousins that were in their 19-27 age range who listened to rap music.

He released his 3rd single in September 1995 off that album and again, what black spaces or places in the South that YOU was at that was bumping this shit? or his album? Name it?

Name the college HBCU band that played any Raekon song? What frat party played any Raekon song?



What Top 10 single did he have out in 1994, or the summer of 1995 (because in 1995, most radio stations in the South and on the West coast, only played Rap music during a certain time slot and most radio stations had your Top 10 countdown which took up a 1 hour time slot was played off that album in the South?

I can name 10 - 20 rap songs in 1995 that got major play in the South.

Also, the landscape of 1995, most black families listened to R&B songs, your parents listened to oldies, blues or again the new R&B coming out of ATL, babyface, the kids, teens listened to Aaliyah, TLC, Kelly, "his radio shit" unless you had siblings.

Teenagers, under 17 wasn't buying rap albums like that. from other regions other than West Coast, Midwest and Southern artists Especially not in no 1995

I aint in no coma, brotha, I traveled all around the Southern states, every other weekend and on the West Coast all throughout my childhood. I had older siblings and uncles and cousins that listened to rap music.

I had friends in 1995 my age that couldn't listen to rap music, other than the shit being played on the radio.

Where were you at listening to Raekon at the age of 9-14? Name it.
 
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Let's do it this way. I


In 1995. (Real Time) I take it we are hitting mid 40s, late 30s, Brotha, you was 10 years old, or under 12. You wasn't asking your mother to go take you to the store and buy no dayum Raekon, Nobody under 15 was doing that. Nor were your friends of that age doing that. And let's cut the crap out that you were in your bedroom listening to this Album at 13? or listening to it in your parents house, most black parents didn't play that shit, you listened to that shit with the door closed in your room, and mainly it was the older sibling listening to the rap music, in 1995.
Most black parents in the south didn't like rap music.
You couldn't buy albums at 12 without an adult, present and nobody in the South under 15 is spending their allowance on a dayum Raekon album.

Kids under 14 years old in 1995, didn't know about a dayum Raekon.. In the South



You wasn't doing that shit in no 1995

In real time 1995, you had to listen to the music either at a House Party (in which most House Parties were given by your parents, who played the Blues or old songs, or that older sibling and in the south, they wasn't playing no Raekon at a house party) , Radio, or Family Function or on a college campus, Brotha, you weren't outside,, and if you were 'outside' the kids in your neighborhood listened to the shit that was on your radio the local shit that everybody played in that area.

Let's go deeper:

What major single off that album did Raekon have on the radio in 1994 or 1995 (summer of 1995) that was getting played on the Southern radio stations like that? Name it. Most kids/teens heard music on the Radio especially if you didn't have older siblings or that Uncle or cousins that were in their 19-27 age range who listened to rap music.

He released his 3rd single in September 1995 off that album and again, what black spaces or places in the South that YOU was at that was bumping this shit? or his album? Name it?

Name the college HBCU band that played any Raekon song? What frat party played any Raekon song?



What Top 10 single did he have out in 1994, or the summer of 1995 (because in 1995, most radio stations in the South and on the West coast, only played Rap music during a certain time slot and most radio stations had your Top 10 countdown which took up a 1 hour time slot was played off that album in the South?

I can name 10 - 20 rap songs in 1995 that got major play in the South.

Also, the landscape of 1995, most black families listened to R&B songs, your parents listened to oldies, blues or again the new R&B coming out of ATL, babyface, the kids, teens listened to Aaliyah, TLC, Kelly, "his radio shit" unless you had siblings.

Teenagers, under 17 wasn't buying rap albums like that. from other regions other than West Coast, Midwest and Southern artists Especially not in no 1995

I aint in no coma, brotha, I traveled all around the Southern states, every other weekend and on the West Coast all throughout my childhood. I had older siblings and uncles and cousins that listened to rap music.

I had friends in 1995 my age that couldn't listen to rap music, other than the shit being played on the radio.

Where were you at listening to Raekon at the age of 9-14? Name it.

Hey brother, by the age of 7 (in 93) was listening to real uncensored rap albums that my dad let me and my brother listen to without supervision or any bullshit like that. And I’m from Virginia




Just sayin
 
He's not wrong, at all. And while SC is the South I'm sure he's talking about Louisiana. I'm in Arkansas and share the sentiment.

I'm talking bout the whole south, I traveled a lot as a child and teenager and was in all the black spaces across the South and on the West Coast. I hung around a lot of black older teens due to my siblings being older than me and my cousins and uncles, all being around each other, that's how black families did it back in the day. They were in a lot of black spaces in the South and West Coast and I know what was being played at parties and on these Southern radio stations, most of my travel was done in the back seat of a Astro Van, rented car. or some RV shit.

The 1st thing we would do once we got out of range of our radio station was find another 'black' radio station to listen to on these drives and as a kid, I would listen to the radio or the shit my siblings and their friends would listen to in real time. My cousins and uncles who were at the time around that 17-26 age range. who also had friends etc. We would go to the black mall, black parties were given on Weekends in these other southern cities and states, and yea I couldn't get in the shit, sometime would be left in the car or at the hotels, one thing I would hear is Southern music.

Most of my folks were in JRs, and SRs in HS, and in college or street dudes etc. And they were in again, black spaces and I would see them go into these stores and buy x,y and z albums and I would hear how they would clown folks who listened to your tri-state area music artists not named Biggie, Mase or DMX in real time.

It's not a diss.

Family Reunions were a thing in the 90s, and nobody at a family reunion, which were mostly held in the South, your Texas, or Louisiana, or MS, you may have had one in Cally or in Chicago but most of your cousins and folks weren't talking bout some dayum Raekon music lol.
 
Hey brother, by the age of 7 (in 93) was listening to real uncensored rap albums that my dad let me and my brother listen to without supervision or any bullshit like that. And I’m from Virginia




Just sayin

And for my 9th birthday, the first CD I ever bought using my money (my dad actually bought it in the store) was Eazy E-Straight off tha Streetz of Muthaphukkin Compton
 
Hey brother, by the age of 7 (in 93) was listening to real uncensored rap albums that my dad let me and my brother listen to without supervision or any bullshit like that. And I’m from Virginia




Just sayin


That's what's up, let me say, majority of black kids in the 90s weren't listening to rap music all willy nilly. Most were sneaking listening to it, or most were listening to it through an older sibling "who even they had to somewhat listen to it on the low"

Most black parents, especially in 1993, weren't on that rap wave. They weren't fucking it wit it, the shit was catered to that 16-27 crowd. It was rare to hear 30 something year old cats listening to rap music like that back in those days.

I know my folks hated that shit.
 
And for my 9th birthday, the first CD I ever bought using my money (my dad actually bought it in the store) was Eazy E-Straight off tha Streetz of Muthaphukkin Compton


Your dad had to buy it, Most parents in the early 90s, mid 90s didn't even fuck with rap music like that, what kid in the south is taking their allowance money or birthday money, going to Circuit City to buy a Raekon album? to bring home to listen to in their walkman?

Most kids (black) didn't have CD players like that lol. (Remember Martin and that EP when they stole his CD player) Martin paid 500 hunnid dollars for a CD player in 1995, "Another hunnid you could have gotten this is what he told Pam, and she had gotten a raise lol" what 9 year old kid is getting a CD player? lol, that shit was rare, but I'm not saying that kids didn't get them for Christmas, but it was rare. We had walkmans And as a 9 year old black kid, where are you even listening to a Raekow album at? And who are you telling this shit too? cuz most kids back in the 90s, when we actually heard a new song or a tight song, we would brag about it to our friends or the niggas and chicks at school?

What chick is buying a Raekon album that's under 15 years old?

Come on man... That nigga shit aint get no burn down here in real time. Aint no kid asking their parents to bring them to the store, spend their allowance or birthday money on a fucking Raekon album in the South in 1995.

Most kids were buying 'singles' in 1995
 
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Also, the landscape of 1995, most black families listened to R&B songs, your parents listened to oldies, blues or again the new R&B coming out of ATL, babyface, the kids, teens listened to Aaliyah, TLC, Kelly, "his radio shit" unless you had siblings.

Teenagers, under 17 wasn't buying rap albums like that. Especially not in no 1995

What teenagers were you around that wasn't buying rap albums??? Wheredeydodatat???

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^^^ See that??? I bought Eric B and Rakim's "Follow The Leader" with my lil Hardee's check when it dropped; I was 16 when I copped that. Most of my friends was already buying records and tapes for few years while I was recording shit off the radio. I copped a grip of shit by the end of that summer. I went past two record shops on the way home from school back in those days and I'd grab something almost every week before I was 17.

Were y'all sheltered or something??? I find it REALLY hard to believe that Black 17 year olds anywhere in this country weren't buying hip hop albums in '95 unless they came from ultra strict religious families.
 
What teenagers were you around that wasn't buying rap albums??? Wheredeydodatat???

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^^^ See that??? I bought Eric B and Rakim's "Follow The Leader" with my lil Hardee's check when it dropped; I was 16 when I copped that. Most of my friends was already buying records and tapes for few years while I was recording shit off the radio. I copped a grip of shit by the end of that summer. I went past two record shops on the way home from school back in those days and I'd grab something almost every week before I was 17.

Were y'all sheltered or something??? I find it REALLY hard to believe that Black 17 year olds anywhere in this country weren't buying hip hop albums in '95 unless they came from ultra strict religious families.

Album/record.

17 year old kids in the South didn't own record players. The parents did, and as I stated, most parents in the South in 1995 wasn't fucking with that hardcore rap.

So as a 17 year old kid or under, buy a record and trying to play it in the house "when" wasn't happening in majority of the homes in the southern states or west coast in the 90s.

CD players, most 17 year kids in 1995 didn't have CD players, we had walkmans, and most 17 year old kids in the South in 1995 wasn't buy no Raekon album.

Ok. Let's do it this way

Name me the lead single off that album in 1994 that a 17 year old kid or kid under 17 that they heard on the radio (Girl and Boy) that's in the South would make them wanna buy a Raekon album with their own or parent's money?

In 1995, the artist single would come out before the album, so name me his 1st single that caught the ears of 17 & under black girls and black kids in the south that made them wanna spend their allowance on a Raekon's album
 
What teenagers were you around that wasn't buying rap albums??? Wheredeydodatat???

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^^^ See that??? I bought Eric B and Rakim's "Follow The Leader" with my lil Hardee's check when it dropped; I was 16 when I copped that. Most of my friends was already buying records and tapes for few years while I was recording shit off the radio. I copped a grip of shit by the end of that summer. I went past two record shops on the way home from school back in those days and I'd grab something almost every week before I was 17.

Were y'all sheltered or something??? I find it REALLY hard to believe that Black 17 year olds anywhere in this country weren't buying hip hop albums in '95 unless they came from ultra strict religious families.


Master P 99 Ways 2 Die album was on Vinyl with him holding 2 guns pointing


Who is buying that vinyl album that's under 17? and where are they playing it? What time of the day will they be playing it at home in 1995? with all that vile language in each song?

What black parent is allowing that shit to be played in their front living room, cuz that's where the stereo was located in most Southern homes, or in your daddy's lil back hall room and you wasn't in that room by yourself unless he had something going on

Like let's bring this shit back into the settings of 1995, yall taking yall mindset of 2026 and trying to dictate how it was in 1995, nah man.

Let's tell it like it is.


I'll say this, you are correct, I was wrong, 17 year old cats were buying albums, they weren't buying no dayum Raekon album, I was wrong, or maybe I should have added that last part.

Those cats at that age were driving and they needed something to be played in the car in their tape deck, and most older cars didn't come with one in 1995
 
Album/record.

17 year old kids in the South didn't own record players. The parents did, and as I stated, most parents in the South in 1995 wasn't fucking with that hardcore rap.

So as a 17 year old kid or under, buy a record and trying to play it in the house "when" wasn't happening in majority of the homes in the southern states or west coast in the 90s.

CD players, most 17 year kids in 1995 didn't have CD players, we had walkmans, and most 17 year old kids in the South in 1995 wasn't buy no Raekon album.

Ok. Let's do it this way

Name me the lead single off that album in 1994 that a 17 year old kid or kid under 17 that they heard on the radio (Girl and Boy) that's in the South would make them wanna buy a Raekon album with their own or parent's money?

In 1995, the artist single would come out before the album, so name me his 1st single that caught the ears of 17 & under black girls and black kids in the south that made them wanna spend their allowance on a Raekon's album

I didn't own one either, unless you wanna count the lil Fisher Price joint that I could swipe from my younger sisters room:

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I did have a dual cassette boom box of my own that I got for Christmas when I was 14 or 15 and by the time I was back in school at 16 I had a walkman. Back then I was taping shit off the radio, but when I got that Eric B and Rakim joint I made a copy on cassette using my folks' stereo on my day off while they were at work. I bought significantly more tapes than vinyl back then (something I stated maybe a week or so ago in the Physical Media thread), and I kept them in my room. If I played any rap shit out loud in my room, it was usually the positive shit like BDP, Rakim, Public Enemy, KC Flightt, and others so if moms came in my room and heard it she wouldn't trip over it.

So, lemme get this straight: y'all had a Walkman but never bought tapes??? Y'all ain't sneak to buy shit and hide it in your rooms??? 'Cause I know my moms found my Too $hort and 2 Live Crew tapes that I had bought when I was 16, listened to them, and confiscated them telling me I didn't need to be listening to such "filth". A week later I swiped them back from their room; she hid them in a dresser drawer.

As for what single did Raekwon drop that y'all listened to? Dunno, I was still in Metro Detroit in them days, and, yeah... Glaciers of Ice and, particularly, Ice Cream was in rotation on the radio out this way; Ice Cream being the more popular of the two.

I can't speak on y'alls listening and purchasing habits in the souf back then, but I do find it odd that y'all wasn't buying your own tapes in those days as teenagers.
 
Y'all have gotten away from the point of the thread🤕

Nah, I'm trying to understand how it seems that almost nobody in the souf was fuckin' with that album. Like, I get it if there were no singles dropped, but y'all wasn't hearing them joints on the radio? It's really fascinating to me in a way that goes beyond the stated nature of this thread. As a DJ and someone that was actively trying to get some shit dropped back in those days I thought I had a pretty good grasp of how certain shit was "regional", but something like OB4CL was getting spins at a nationwide level, or so I thought.

So y'all below The Mason-Dixon Line really didn't hear Raekwon on the radio?
 
Nah, I'm trying to understand how it seems that almost nobody in the souf was fuckin' with that album. Like, I get it if there were no singles dropped, but y'all wasn't hearing them joints on the radio? It's really fascinating to me in a way that goes beyond the stated nature of this thread. As a DJ and someone that was actively trying to get some shit dropped back in those days I thought I had a pretty good grasp of how certain shit was "regional", but something like OB4CL was getting spins at a nationwide level, or so I thought.

So y'all below The Mason-Dixon Line really didn't hear Raekwon on the radio?
Y'all are cause y'all speaking in absolutes based on personal experiences, at least that's how it's coming across

But the answer to your question, generally speaking, a lot of experiences are based on regional access to shit

Then there's the South and the deep South. Knock isn't totally off base but I think by the time we were your age at 17, CDs and shit was the wave as cassette tapes were starting to go away. Not totally, but it was happening.

We still had record shops here. They had one by Southern University but again, a lot of homes just didn't have record players actually in the home.

We definitely were listening to explicit rap though but back to my original point. Our exposure to East Coast music was definitely through music videos and some radio play. But if you weren't like PAC pre death row or like the party music kinda east coast artists, it just kinda flew under the radar. I'm not saying not a single person wasn't listening to Wu Tang or anything like that, it just wasn't as common as listening to other Southern artists
 
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The funniest shit about this is...this topic is actually covered in the show about Wu Tang when they went on their 1st tour about their reception in the south. So there's an actual answer to this already
 
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