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AP4.0 said:
You told him to list all of them. You didn't even say to name one.

This is what I was referencing

But later on, in your most recent response to me, you said we want to treat women with kid gloves. I hope this doesn't mean what I think it means but I don't think ensuring they have certain protections comes at the expense of men nor does it means you are treating them with kid gloves.

You keep yearning for us to go back to the 60s, but during that period, the charge for black men was to protect the women and children. Would a man sacrificing himself for his wife and kids be considered treating women with kid gloves? Or did the women need to get from behind the protection of men and stand along side of them?
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I guess there are more rights that black men have that black women don't have.

In past threads, you and several others on here have taken measurements to defend women's actions, and when black men displayed the same behavior the back lash from you and other posters were harsh towards black men.

Protection for black men and black women should be the same. That's dividing the race brotha. Whether you agree with it or not. Both Black men and women should be protected equally under white supremacy.

Black Women and Black Men were united in the 60s. One of the toughest things to separate was a black woman and black man. That is what I want.
Gender Wars became a thing when black feminists became popular in the media. Now you have it everywhere and they are the biggest contributor to gender wars.

Behind the gender war is a feminist, male or female or feminist talking points.
 
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Knock_Twice said:
I guess there are more rights that black men have that black women don't have.

In past threads, you and several others on here have taken measurements to defend women's actions, and when black men displayed the same behavior the back lash from you and other posters were harsh towards black men.

Protection for black men and black women should be the same. That's dividing the race brotha. Whether you agree with it or not. Both Black men and women should be protected equally under white supremacy.

Black Women and Black Men were united in the 60s. One of the toughest things to separate was a black woman and black man. That is what I want.
Gender Wars became a thing when black feminists became popular in the media. Now you have it everywhere and they are the biggest contributor to gender wars.

Behind the gender war is a feminist, male or female or feminist talking points.
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I disagree

The gender war is full of both men and women who are emotionally immature and speak in absolutes instead of the nuance that's needed for relationships to thrive

Has nothing to do with feminism
 
AP4.0 said:
How did I take forever when I literally answered it that day and within 3-5 responses of being asked where I got the information?

But this is a red herring cause if you really gave a shit then, you should've done like they did and asked. Don't bring the shit up a whole week and a half later in another thread to try and support your point. I'm talking about things you've done in this very thread b.
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I used that as a point. You want conversation/dialog when you don't even practice what you preach. And I used the Nissan discussion as an exmaple.

I could have pulled another example from the past, but that was the most recent one that I could think of that came to mind

You've been guilty of doing exactly what you're trying to preach others of doing lol, which is wild and crazy. You can search your own post and see how you've acted in response to having certain discussions not just with me, but with other posters.

That's why I brought up the Nissan discussion to say, aye brotha, you did the very thing in this example. Them folks asked you a question and you (trolled your way out) didn't give a straight answer, trolled, talked about something else that didn't pertain to answer that poster or posters' question until later after being called out on the delay.

The inconsistency on this board with some posters (not all) is crazy and it is easy to point out.

2026, Consistency is the goal. Just be consistent.
 
Knock_Twice said:
I used that as a point. You want conversation/dialog when you don't even practice what you preach. And I used the Nissan discussion as an exmaple.

I could have pulled another example from the past, but that was the most recent one that I could think of that came to mind

You've been guilty of doing exactly what you're trying to preach others of doing lol, which is wild and crazy. You can search your own post and see how you've acted in response to having certain discussions not just with me, but with other posters.

That's why I brought up the Nissan discussion to say, aye brotha, you did the very thing in this example. Them folks asked you a question and you (trolled your way out) didn't give a straight answer, trolled, talked about something else that didn't pertain to answer that poster or poster's question until later after being called out on the delay.

The inconsistency on this board with some posters (not all) is crazy and it is easy to point out.

2026, Consistency is the goal. Just be consistent.
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For the second time, I gave an answer. Please stop saying I didn't or I delayed. I also work and at times aren't able to respond as quickly as I would like. But that's telling you have to go those lengths when the examples I've listed are right here in this very thread
 
AP4.0 said:
I disagree

The gender war is full of both men and women who are emotionally immature and speak in absolutes instead of the nuance that's needed for relationships to thrive

Has nothing to do with feminism
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Gender Wars doesn't only focus on relationships.

Black Girl Magic
Protect Black Women
Black Women's Right
Etc

This is a gender war which spills into the relationship sector.

Black Boys and Black Men should be included in everything, just like Black Women and Black Girls should be included with Black Men advancement.

We are Black People.
 
Knock_Twice said:
Gender Wars doesn't only focus on relationships.

Black Girl Magic
Protect Black Women
Black Women's Right
Etc

This is a gender war which spills into the relationship sector.

Black Boys and Black Men should be included in everything, just like Black Women and Black Girls should be included with Black Men advancement.

We are Black People.
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Disagree again

But I think we are defining gender wars as two different things so maybe that's the issue
 
AP4.0 said:
Disagree again

But I think we are defining gender wars as two different things so maybe that's the issue
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If, Black men, pushed for the gov't to give only Black Boys Free Lunch in grade school when black girls eat lunch too instead of Black Kids

If Black men pushed for Only Black Men to be hired as train conductors when black women can do the task too instead of Black People.

Would that be considered dividing the race or a gender war being had?
 
Knock_Twice said:
If, Black men, pushed for the gov't to give only Black Boys Free Lunch in grade school instead of Black Kids

If Black men pushed for Only Black Men to be hired as train conductors instead of Black People.

Would that be considered dividing the race or a gender war being had?
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I'm going to answer your question in good faith even though I do not agree with the premise

Yes
 
AP4.0 said:
I'm going to answer your question in good faith even though I do not agree with the premise

Yes
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If the Black Boys get the green light from the gov't to get the free lunches in grade school.

More than likely, the Black girls/women will be upset with who??? Black Men because they pushed for this to be done and left out the black girls who also eat lunch and could benefit from getting free lunch too.

Black Kids, which includes girls and the boys, should be pushed to get the free lunch, we all win and we all get the same provided to us

That's a gender war, caused by Black Men. That's causing division.

We don't need this in 2026 at all.
 
Knock_Twice said:
Because you keep saying Women Rights. And you still have yet to name the rights that men have that women don't have.

If a law is passed to protect women from SA, and rape (laws that are already on the books) but going by what you want, they get this special law passed, just for black women, (wouldn't that give black women MORE rights than black MEN?) What about the black Men that get rape and SA??

Many laws are not enforced for Black People Period.

So many laws are not enforced for Black Women but they are enforced for Black Men, Asian Men and Arab Men in this country??

What needs to stop in 2026 and I see that it's happening, this separation between Black Women and Black Men like YOU ARE DOING and have been doing.

Male Feminist speak about Gender Wars but they are the biggest contributors to the shit....Make statements like "Women Rights", IT's HER CHOICE, LIVE IN HER TRUTH

Not holding Black Women accountable, but wanna put the hammer down on Black Men

This is the biggest aid to dividing black women and black men, which spills into the relationship sector.

Male Feminist and Feminist period are the reasons behind Gender Wars and Black Women and Black Men separation
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I never made any separation. Laws against sexual abuse and assault would also go for male victims obviously. And it’s not just laws it how things are applied. Men can’t get abortions but women are being restricted from it. Should they not be able to have that choice? Further planned parent hood is needed


Feminism for black women is not against black men like you think. Not being able to get section 8 of a man was in the home back in the day lead to the separation. But the bigger problem was black men weren’t paid enough or allowed to work enough. Wouldn’t have needed the aid in the first place.


I’m not saying or ever said the black man is the terror or destroyer of the community but their is things we can do better by women. We can’t act like the divide wasn’t pushed by our despictuons and how people carried things. It used to be ok to slap a bitch. That does not mean every dude slapped bitches.

Women can tell yall exactly what the issue is and yall ignore it. If a man tried to see it that way yall say it’s pandering.

That does not excuse women treating men bad by using the system or talking crazy or accusing them of crimes they didn’t do. I also think that should be handled.

You can’t say black women and black men in the US have the same exact experiences and then blame feminism. And then yall over play the divide because of social media. Yall saw we majority vote together on the same issues. Consistently.

The divide is because a lot of black people don’t listen or want ti be contrary or use personal examples of shit or excuse problematic shit( a lot of people think a boy having sex with an adult woman is not as bad as girl having sex with an adult man) those types are the one on social media debating with more rational people.

Yall do that Trump shit and hate on educated opinions on things that have been studied. And get mad when people don’t see it.

Yall say xyz destroyed the community but then throw away the solutions because it ain’t realistic enough.
 
Knock_Twice said:
It's time to be honest going into 2026,.

Male Feminists, Feminist Dems, aint no good for Black folks in opinion, Yea I said it. You rarely see a woman feminist with a family. Most are single because they can't get a man and want other women to not have a man, black man at that,

They are ok with black women marrying white men, it's goals then.

It's time out for all that bullshit. Black Women and Black Men are in this shit together. Most feminist that's not from here, speak on the shit because they don't have rights back in their own homeland, the women are treated bad by the men back in their homelands and wanna put that shit on black men in the US.

They can't speak on the shit in their homeland because they know what will happen, so they project that shit over here and cast a dark light on the black men, fBAs and some non-FBAs over here.
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This is foolishness and sounds real conservative yall don’t even know what feminism is or for
 
SeaSnake said:
I never made any separation. Laws against sexual abuse and assault would also go for male victims obviously. And it’s not just laws it how things are applied. Men can’t get abortions but women are being restricted from it. Should they not be able to have that choice? Further planned parent hood is needed


Feminism for black women is not against black men like you think. Not being able to get section 8 of a man was in the home back in the day lead to the separation. But the bigger problem was black men weren’t paid enough or allowed to work enough. Wouldn’t have needed the aid in the first place.


I’m not saying or ever said the black man is the terror or destroyer of the community but their is things we can do better by women. We can’t act like the divide wasn’t pushed by our despictuons and how people carried things. It used to be ok to slap a bitch. That does not mean every dude slapped bitches.

Women can tell yall exactly what the issue is and yall ignore it. If a man tried to see it that way yall say it’s pandering.

That does not excuse women treating men bad by using the system or talking crazy or accusing them of crimes they didn’t do. I also think that should be handled.

You can’t say black women and black men in the US have the same exact experiences and then blame feminism. And then yall over play the divide because of social media. Yall saw we majority vote together on the same issues. Consistently.

The divide is because a lot of black people don’t listen or want ti be contrary or use personal examples of shit or excuse problematic shit( a lot of people think a boy having sex with an adult woman is not as bad as girl having sex with an adult man) those types are the one on social media debating with more rational people.

Yall do that Trump shit and hate on educated opinions on things that have been studied. And get mad when people don’t see it.

Yall say xyz destroyed the community but then throw away the solutions because it ain’t realistic enough.
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For me, if a white or Asian woman wants to decide to keep or dismiss a child, she should have that right. But find the father and let them both make that decision together.

I don't know what time frame you're talking when it was ok and kool to slap a bitch. Maybe on a movie, but in real life, it was never ok for a man to put their hands on another woman. Or vice versa.
 
Knock_Twice said:
To be fair brotha,

You've been called out on leaving actual conversations.

They've pressed you in the Random thread about Nissan and it took you 2 days for you to answer a simple question that was asked of you.
Rather you thought it was whatever, the fact of the matter is, a discussion was being had and you folded (or trolled your way out of giving an answer to their question)

You've been guilty of the very same thing you're trying to preach to the choir.

The other day, @Beta pulled one of your moves by telling you what you would do, Peace sign out....

You've done it with me, when I've asked you to elaborate on your points, after 1 post.

This is why the board is dying.

The only true debaters on here are Chicago, SeaSnake, only for 2 post and then he starts glitching, Bestuy, DIs, yall ran him off Blackrain would go back and forth, Monk, Knight, Cain, in this section. Tayboo would go back and forth, Mr. BK, The Myth. Dwayne would go back and forth

The rest of the posters, including you, troll out, post gifs, or start name calling or using "bad faith argument" (this is never used on other boards). Yall don't wanna be wrong or hate to explain points to make them make sense in reality

If we going to be real, let's keep it all the way real,
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You stay throwing insults too but it’s cool. Ho shit but cool
 
Knock_Twice said:
For me, if a white or Asian woman wants to decide to keep or dismiss a child, she should have that right. But find the father and let them both make that decision together.

I don't know what time frame you're talking when it was ok and kool to slap a bitch. Maybe on a movie, but in real life, it was never ok for a man to put their hands on another woman. Or vice versa.
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What if the father is an adult and the girl is underage
 
SeaSnake said:
This is foolishness and sounds real conservative yall don’t even know what feminism is or for
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Since I don't know what feminism is for, (I'll speak for myself) can you tell me some key points that feminists like yourself seek to gain?

@AP4.0

I am asking him to elaborate his vague statement he put out there. I would like to learn from facts what feminism is and what are their goals that they would like to get accomplished.

Good faith fuck nigga
 
SeaSnake said:
What if the father is an adult and the girl is underage
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Let's do it this way because what I said seems to be a problem.

If the mother is an adult and the father is an adult, BOTH parties need to agree on a decision since both parties were involved. Let's do it that way.

If the girl is underage then she, her parents, the father can all consult on the decision. All Parties.

What you not going to do is omit the father for having a part in the decision.
 
I’m like one of the few posters who don’t find men being raped in jail as some funny shit. I been thought niggas need therapy for being children and losing virginity to older women.

But yall call that soft shit. Yall don’t want to protect other black men lol yall hate gay niggas like they ain’t black. But then say everybody divided. Yall want leadership without being questioned pretty much.
 
SeaSnake said:
I’m like one of the few posters who don’t find men being raped in jail as some funny shit. I been thought niggas need therapy for being children and losing virginity to older women.

But yall call that soft shit. Yall don’t want to protect other black men lol yall hate gay niggas like they ain’t black. But then say everybody divided. Yall want leadership without being questioned pretty much.
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It's not a funny situation. Not sure who you're talking about, really don't care.

Straight men, gay men, need protection from that act.

You divide the race, most feminist, male or females do. Yall be behind 99% of the gender wars that goes on in our race.

That shit will, will stop in 2026.

We getting the tethers outta our mix, now we bout to get yall feminist outta the mix. Yall are behind most of this shit.

About to start calling yall out on the bullshit ass talking points, that yall use from white women. Shit has to stop. Now

We getting that Black Unity popping like we had it in the 1960s.
 
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