OPINION Contradictions and Lies! Exposing the Democratic Party

[Knock_Twice]

They used for young black folks I don’t think it worked but I don’t doubt the intention. It didn’t work because democrat voters don’t care for it. But again it didn’t ruin her campaign. Democrats also kneeled in Kente cloth like it meant something so yes a lot of them are out of touch completely.

But what’s your real issue man? You say don’t vote for and just let things happen?

I understand what it was used for, but there are other black folks that could have been used to attract young voters. It will never work going forward because most black folks going forward have sense to know that their being toy'd with by these folks.

Voters (black folks) are using their knowledge to really vet voters or those who will do for them and give them things that they need. This is the new way now with this crowd 18-24 and that 25-45 crowd. It's like the switch has come on.

My issue? I've said to you and ap, and other dems in this thread, Vote. Go to the polls and Vote.

Do what's best for you, and control your house. Don't concern yourself with other people votes.

 

[SeaSnake]

I understand what it was used for, but there are other black folks that could have been used to attract young voters. It will never work going forward because most black folks going forward have sense to know that their being toy'd with by these folks.

Voters (black folks) are using their knowledge to really vet voters or those who will do for them and give them things that they need. This is the new way now with this crowd 18-24 and that 25-45 crowd. It's like the switch has come on.

My issue? I've said to you and ap, and other dems in this thread, Vote. Go to the polls and Vote.

Do what's best for you, and control your house. Don't concern yourself with other people votes.

We are not concerned but if you tell us you don’t vote folks want to know why and go from there

 

[Knock_Twice]

Some folks are relying on other people to vote (save yall) instead of putting the pressure on the candidates that yall are voting for to have a strong plan to make the world a better place, for you and me.

I tell you what, if folks wanna rely on others to vote, ask yourself, does the candidate who I want them to vote for, have something for the very people that I'm asking to vote? Does the candidate plan includes something that's dedicated to them that I know that they will like?

If not, then, focus only on YOUR vote and let others make their own decision based on what's on the Draft Board.

 

[Knock_Twice]

We are not concerned but if you tell us you don’t vote folks want to know why and go from there

Vote SeaSnake.

I am telling YOU and OTHERS to VOTE. Let me kill this narrative right now. SeaSnake, brotha, GO AND VOTE. Please. Lol.

Continue to VOTE.

Let folks do what they wanna do with their Vote, YOU JUST DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH YOUR VOTE.

Don't tell me or anybody how to cut my grass or water my grass.

Du- Don't tell a man how to run his household

 

[Knock_Twice]

We are not concerned but if you tell us you don’t vote folks want to know why and go from there

The why shouldn't matter, and folks have told you. I know I've said it, Both candidates were shitty. Most would tell you that it's a joke or a waste to vote.
Many folks have many reasons why they don't vote or didn't vote.

Whatever their reasons it's their reasons and it's good for them, not you.

 

[SeaSnake]

Vote SeaSnake.

I am telling YOU and OTHERS to VOTE. Let me kill this narrative right now. SeaSnake, brotha, GO AND VOTE. Please. Lol.

Continue to VOTE.

Let folks do what they wanna do with their Vote, YOU JUST DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH YOUR VOTE.

Don't tell me or anybody how to cut my grass or water my grass.

Du- Don't tell a man how to run his household

Nobody is telling yall anything. Just because we think something is stupid does mean we giving you orders or demanding anything.

 

[AP4.0]

@Mr BFK

No one is against different opinions fam

Let's make that crystal clear

What people are against are blatantly uninformed ones especially when these people accuse the other side of the discussion as being overly emotional under the guise of group think.

Well, wouldn't the other side of the discussion be group think as well? Or is it only group think when someone or a group of like minded people are trying to highlight the faulty basis of what your opinions are based in?

I think outside of you defaulting to everyone that disagrees with you being emotional, you've been pretty civil and I appreciate that but this position you've taken is like you trying to tell your homeboy he got something caught in his beard cause you can see it and he tells you that's impossible cause he made sure he checked his beard before he left the house.

 

[Knock_Twice]

Why I gotta list shit you can look up. Women generally are more likely to be raped and sexually assaulted we had to pass laws to protect them but they are t always enforced. Women with kids are usually more vulnerable than men with kids and make less.

This is like a white man asking why we needed civil rights. They have rights but they aren’t always enforced or applied fairly and I’m talking about black women.

Because you keep saying Women Rights. And you still have yet to name the rights that men have that women don't have.

If a law is passed to protect women from SA, and rape (laws that are already on the books) but going by what you want, they get this special law passed, just for black women, (wouldn't that give black women MORE rights than black MEN?) What about the black Men that get rape and SA??

Many laws are not enforced for Black People Period.

So many laws are not enforced for Black Women but they are enforced for Black Men, Asian Men and Arab Men in this country??

What needs to stop in 2026 and I see that it's happening, this separation between Black Women and Black Men like YOU ARE DOING and have been doing.

Male Feminist speak about Gender Wars but they are the biggest contributors to the shit....Make statements like "Women Rights", IT's HER CHOICE, LIVE IN HER TRUTH

Not holding Black Women accountable, but wanna put the hammer down on Black Men

This is the biggest aid to dividing black women and black men, which spills into the relationship sector.

Male Feminist and Feminist period are the reasons behind Gender Wars and Black Women and Black Men separation

 

[Knock_Twice]

Male Feminist and Feminists are the biggest reason for Black Women and Black Men division,

If you get rid of these motherfuckers, the black sector will be like how it was in the 60s, They don't do nothing but repeat what white feminist say.

These white hoes/women are the one whose fighting for equal control with their white male partners/husbands

Black Women and Black Men have always shared the same equal struggle.

Male Feminist and Feminists are the ones who create division within the Black Union/Sector

Gender Wars are caused by Feminists both male and female

 

[AP4.0]

The issue with this conversation and many others is that some of y'all just refuse to receive new information or rather, you'll receive it in terms of reading someone's opposing pov but you don't receive it in the sense that it can make you pivot from your original position

So now here comes the double down and/or the name calling

"I stand corrected" would do wonders for some of y'all, but y'all so committed to the original premise of your position. Y'all would make horrible scientists cause y'all wouldn't apply the scientific method to try and disprove what you believe but to try and confirm what you believe. How does this advance the conversation/interaction with other posters on this site?

This is why message boards are dying. Not because of different opinions. It's easier to get off 200 characters on an app and disable comments so people can't tell you you're wrong and you rather stew in your ignorance vs people telling you, no man, you're actually wrong. A lot of people simply do not want to engage in actual conversation where both sides engage in good faith conversations.

 

[Knock_Twice]

It's time to be honest going into 2026,.

Male Feminists, Feminist Dems, aint no good for Black folks in opinion, Yea I said it. You rarely see a woman feminist with a family. Most are single because they can't get a man and want other women to not have a man, black man at that,

They are ok with black women marrying white men, it's goals then.

It's time out for all that bullshit. Black Women and Black Men are in this shit together. Most feminist that's not from here, speak on the shit because they don't have rights back in their own homeland, the women are treated bad by the men back in their homelands and wanna put that shit on black men in the US.

They can't speak on the shit in their homeland because they know what will happen, so they project that shit over here and cast a dark light on the black men, fBAs and some non-FBAs over here.

 

[Knock_Twice]

The issue with this conversation and many others is that some of y'all just refuse to receive new information or rather, you'll receive it in terms of reading someone's opposing pov but you don't receive it in the sense that it can make you pivot from your original position

So now here comes the double down and/or the name calling

"I stand corrected" would do wonders for some of y'all, but y'all so committed to the original premise of your position. Y'all would make horrible scientists cause y'all wouldn't apply the scientific method to try and disprove what you believe but to try and confirm what you believe. How does this advance the conversation/interaction with other posters on this site?

This is why message boards are dying. Not because of different opinions. It's easier to get off 200 characters on an app and disable comments so people can't tell you you're wrong and you rather stew in your ignorance vs people telling you, no man, you're actually wrong. A lot of people simply do not want to engage in actual conversation where both sides engage in good faith conversations.

Brotha,
I've been stated when I came back, when discussing serious topics, there should not be no name-calling, posting gifs, or any or that. Simply lock the poster out of the thread. I been challenged folks to get their debating skills up to par or stay on the sidelines.

Back your points with examples. Don't talk in vague terms and be able to explain your stance when asked.

I've been said that if a poster can't debate without catching feelings, then they shouldn't be allowed to post in the thread.

The mods should have been installed these rules in my opinion. Most folks troll out when pressed or label things as "sarcasm" when it gets called out when it's not.

 

[loud-ninja]

Any DC posters feel the same

Just a little insight for those that dont live in the area.
I live in MD, bout 30min from downtown dc. Im in dc several times out the month. They deployed the Natinol Gaurds in places like the national mall, some metros (mainly the tourist metro stops), and federal buildings. High crime was not at any of those places. Some of the metro stations where they are at can be a little unsafe sometimes, so there presence does help there. Crime rate was already on the decline before the NG came through. The NG presence does help but again, they are in tourist areas and federal building areas. Before all this, you could walk the national mall and feel safe. It is a populated area with police , so it is hard to do crime there. Same with the federal buildings

 

[AP4.0]

Brotha,
I've been stated when I came back, when discussing serious topics, there should not be no name-calling, posting gifs, or any or that. Simply lock the poster out of the thread. I been challenged folks to get their debating skills up to par or stay on the sidelines.

Back your points with examples. Don't talk in vague terms and be able to explain your stance when asked.

I've been said that if a poster can't debate without catching feelings, then they shouldn't be allowed to post in the thread.

The mods should have been installed these rules in my opinion. Most folks troll out when pressed or label things as "sarcasm" when it gets called out when it's not.

Eh

The issue with your position is rooted in bad faith arguments.

Why in your real life, someone can speak in hyperbole regarding a topic but on the message board, you want someone to be literal

e.g. if me and you grabbing lunch and I tell you, man I went to ______ the other night. Everybody and they Mama was in there. You'll probably say, man for real, who all was in there. I might name 3 people we went to highschool with and you'll be like damn, that mugg was packed like that?

But if czar starts talking about women's rights, you want him to name every single right he thinks women don't have that men already have. A good faith debater wouldn't approach the discussion from this pov cause it's known or rather implied there are still things that women get the short end of the stick on. You didn't even ask him to name 3. You said name every single one

Then you called him a male feminist

This is bad faith debating b

 

[Knock_Twice]

The issue with this conversation and many others is that some of y'all just refuse to receive new information or rather, you'll receive it in terms of reading someone's opposing pov but you don't receive it in the sense that it can make you pivot from your original position

So now here comes the double down and/or the name calling

"I stand corrected" would do wonders for some of y'all, but y'all so committed to the original premise of your position. Y'all would make horrible scientists cause y'all wouldn't apply the scientific method to try and disprove what you believe but to try and confirm what you believe. How does this advance the conversation/interaction with other posters on this site?

This is why message boards are dying. Not because of different opinions. It's easier to get off 200 characters on an app and disable comments so people can't tell you you're wrong and you rather stew in your ignorance vs people telling you, no man, you're actually wrong. A lot of people simply do not want to engage in actual conversation where both sides engage in good faith conversations.

To be fair brotha,

You've been called out on leaving actual conversations.

They've pressed you in the Random thread about Nissan and it took you 2 days for you to answer a simple question that was asked of you.
Rather you thought it was whatever, the fact of the matter is, a discussion was being had and you folded (or trolled your way out of giving an answer to their question)

You've been guilty of the very same thing you're trying to preach to the choir.

The other day, @Beta pulled one of your moves by telling you what you would do, Peace sign out....

You've done it with me, when I've asked you to elaborate on your points, after 1 post.

This is why the board is dying.

The only true debaters on here are Chicago, SeaSnake, only for 2 post and then he starts glitching, Bestuy, DIs, yall ran him off Blackrain would go back and forth, Monk, Knight, Cain, in this section. Tayboo would go back and forth, Mr. BK, The Myth. Dwayne would go back and forth

The rest of the posters, including you, troll out, post gifs, or start name calling or using "bad faith argument" (this is never used on other boards). Yall don't wanna be wrong or hate to explain points to make them make sense in reality

If we going to be real, let's keep it all the way real,

 

[AP4.0]

To be fair brotha,

You've been called out on leaving actual conversations.

They've pressed you in the Random thread about Nissan and it took you 2 days for you to answer a simple question that was asked of you.
Rather you thought it was whatever, the fact of the matter is, a discussion was being had and you folded (or trolled your way out of giving an answer to their question)

You've been guilty of the very same thing you're trying to preach to the choir.

The other day, @Beta pulled one of your moves by telling you what you would do, Peace sign out....

You've done it with me, when I've asked you to elaborate on your points, after 1 post.

This is why the board is dying.

The only true debaters on here are Chicago, SeaSnake only for 2 post and then he starts glitching, Blackrain would go back and forth, Monk, Knight, Cain, in this section. Tayboo would go back and forth, Mr. BK, The Myth. Dwayne would go back and forth

The rest of the posters, including you, troll out, post gifs, or start name calling or using "bad faith argument" (this is never used on other boards). Yall don't wanna be wrong or hate to explain points to make them make sense in reality

If we going to be real, let's keep it all the way real,

No one has pressed me about anything. Let's get that straight off the rip.

IDK what troll out even means and won't dignify this with a response.

It's not my fault other boards don't use bad faith arguments as responses. But watch this, are you on every active message board to be able to make this claim or are you referring to the other places you frequent? Do they use strawman?

And no one really gave a shit about that Nissan conversation b. I answered the question then quoted my response when it was asked again. At some point, there is no more juice to squeeze. If you want to see what I wrote, it's still there. I didn't delete anything.

Lastly, most of the time I leave conversations are when it's abundantly clear that the other side of the conversation is hellbent on, you guessed it, having bad faith conversations full of gotcha responses in some wack effort to get one over on me.

 

[Knock_Twice]

Eh

The issue with your position is rooted in bad faith arguments.

Why in your real life, someone can speak in hyperbole regarding a topic but on the message board, you want someone to be literal

e.g. if me and you grabbing lunch and I tell you, man I went to ______ the other night. Everybody and they Mama was in there. You'll probably say, man for real, who all was in there. I might name 3 people we went to highschool with and you'll be like damn, that mugg was packed like that?

But if czar starts talking about women's rights, you want him to name every single right he thinks women don't have that men already have. A good faith debater wouldn't approach the discussion from this pov cause it's known or rather implied there are still things that women get the short end of the stick on. You didn't even ask him to name 3. You said name every single one

Then you called him a male feminist

This is bad faith debating b

Czar, stated women rights, (A vague statement) I asked him to name the rights that women don't have, that men have?

He didn't name 1, he could have named 1 lol. He told me to look the shit up.

Knowing how the world works, Black people as a whole get the short end of the stick, NOT JUST BLACK WOMEN.

That's causing division between Black Women and Men,

He stated something about rape, and SA, and I stated to him, that what about black men being raped and SA? We just going to over look Black Men?

Feminist (he's not a woman) so that's why I called him a male feminist, causing division between black men and black women

He's not stomping for Black Men, Only for Black Women??? When we both black men and women are both under White Supremacy, in fact the Black man is the biggest threat, because a Black man can wipe out their life line

That's my POV, it's just not Black Women who suffers as he likes to make it seem. He and others are like that on this board, always backing Black Women, which is cool, but if you are going to back them, hold them accountable like you do the men.

I back black women and black men, just the same, I don't divide them.

Gender Wars, Yall, (Male Feminist) handle Black Women with kid gloves, but expect Black Men to take it??? That's Not fair when we both Black Men and Women are treated the same under White Supremacy, Black men again, get it the worse.

That's the division, Black Feminist, and Black Male Feminist

 

[Knock_Twice]

No one has pressed me about anything. Let's get that straight off the rip.

IDK what troll out even means and won't dignify this with a response.

It's not my fault other boards don't use bad faith arguments as responses. But watch this, are you on every active message board to be able to make this claim or are you referring to the other places you frequent? Do they use strawman?

And no one really gave a shit about that Nissan conversation b. I answered the question then quoted my response when it was asked again. At some point, there is no more juice to squeeze. If you want to see what I wrote, it's still there. I didn't delete anything.

Lastly, most of the time I leave conversations are when it's abundantly clear that the other side of the conversation is hellbent on, you guessed it, having bad faith conversations full of gotcha responses in some wack effort to get one over on me.

Brotha,

I'm not understanding how noone gave a care about the Nissan conversation, it was an example of that poster asking you a question, and it took you forever to give an answer is the point I'm pointing out. Rather you, yourself, deemed the convo to be worthless, it's your opinion, that poster or the posters wanted an answer and it took you a while to answer the man's or posters question.

This is what I'm talking bout lol

 

[AP4.0]

What are women rights? List them. This is a serious question.

What rights that women and men don't share? List ALL OF THEM, cuz it seems like there are tons of rights that Men have and Women don't have around the US

You told him to list all of them. You didn't even say to name one.

This is what I was referencing

But later on, in your most recent response to me, you said we want to treat women with kid gloves. I hope this doesn't mean what I think it means but I don't think ensuring they have certain protections comes at the expense of men nor does it means you are treating them with kid gloves.

You keep yearning for us to go back to the 60s, but during that period, the charge for black men was to protect the women and children. Would a man sacrificing himself for his wife and kids be considered treating women with kid gloves? Or did the women need to get from behind the protection of men and stand along side of them?

 

[AP4.0]

Brotha,

I'm not understanding how noone gave a care about the Nissan conversation, it was an example of that poster asking you a question, and it took you forever to give an answer is the point I'm pointing out. Rather you, yourself, deemed the convo to be worthless, it's your opinion, that poster or the posters wanted an answer and it took you a while to answer the man's or posters question.

This is what I'm talking bout lol

How did I take forever when I literally answered it that day and within 3-5 responses of being asked where I got the information?

But this is a red herring cause if you really gave a shit then, you should've done like they did and asked. Don't bring the shit up a whole week and a half later in another thread to try and support your point. I'm talking about things you've done in this very thread b.