Question........Is our Hiphop "culture" doing us a disservice?

Is it a disservice

  • Yes, it's time for a change

    Votes: 17 70.8%

  • No, the culture will reset itself in time

    Votes: 4 16.7%

  • This is coon talk

    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • Total voters
    24
BlackRain said:
"Its time to break down the fantasy. Because when you can afford to feed them what you gonna do?" Thats an adult worry being placed onto a child. Children shouldn't have to worry about where their next meal is coming from. And I think kids having that worry placed onto them isn't right. It's that simple. I understand it's reality. It's a reality many live. That still dont mean I'ma look at it and say its ok.
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But if you're a child going through it, whether you want it to be placed on the kid or not it's still going to happen. After my moms left my stepfather we got to a point where we would come home after school and wonder "What's going to be off today? The lights, the water, the heat, or the phone.... Or a combination of them?"
That shit was a legit concern for us, as was "... are we having bean soup and homemade biscuits for the 3rd night in a row?". I'm 10 thinking about this shit and I'm the oldest, so my 8 and 5 year old sisters were definitely thinking about it as well. Watching your moms sit on the couch crying 'cause she doesn't know where she's going to get the money to pay a bill or put food on the table and offering up the $20 you got for your birthday to help out happens because kids are aware of "adult worries" whether we want to acknowledge it or not (and, yeah, that last scenario happened when I was 11).

You think you're shielding kids, but the reality is kids know, especially kids from poorer families.
 
BlackRain said:
Idk why you're so stuck on Christmas lol. And I get he was talking about being fiscally responsible. I just dont think part of that involves letting your kids in on that to the full degree. As they get older? Sure. When theyre still kids. Nah. That shouldn't be their worry
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I'm agreeing with you man lol

I still contend that he's not advocating for making kids worry about adult situations even while saying it's time to stop the fantasy
 
konceptjones said:
But if you're a child going through it, whether you want it to be placed on the kid or not it's still going to happen. After my moms left my stepfather we got to a point where we would come home after school and wonder "What's going to be off today? The lights, the water, the heat, or the phone.... Or a combination of them?"
That shit was a legit concern for us, as was "... are we having bean soup and homemade biscuits for the 3rd night in a row?". I'm 10 thinking about this shit and I'm the oldest, so my 8 and 5 year old sisters were definitely thinking about it as well. Watching your moms sit on the couch crying 'cause she doesn't know where she's going to get the money to pay a bill or put food on the table and offering up the $20 you got for your birthday to help out happens because kids are aware of "adult worries" whether we want to acknowledge it or not (and, yeah, that last scenario happened when I was 11).

You think you're shielding kids, but the reality is kids know, especially kids from poorer families.
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I know it's going to happen. I said, as I already repeated multiple times, I don't think it should happen. Yes kids know. I knew when my Dad was struggling with my brothers and I and I know how it affected us. I also know from speaking to my father as an adult how he hated that we also had to have those worries in our minds as kids. It's not a denial of reality. It's a dislike that reality even exists and if there's a way to keep kids from that then I'd prefer that route than introducing them to adult problems at a child's age
 
BlackRain said:
I know it's going to happen. I said, as I already repeated multiple times, I don't think it should happen. Yes kids know. I knew when my Dad was struggling with my brothers and I and I know how it affected us. I also know from speaking to my father as an adult how he hated that we also had to have those worries in our minds as kids. It's not a denial of reality. It's a dislike that reality even exists and if there's a way to keep kids from that then I'd prefer that route than introducing them to adult problems at a child's age
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There's only so much you can do. Ultimately, the kids will become aware, especially money problems. There's really no way to shield them from it.

My kids saw us go from a 3000sq/ft crib on a lake in an upscale master planned community with nice cars and vans and shit to struggling like crazy living off SNAP, my wife's disability, and whatever little bit of work I could find. They were aware of it the whole time especially my son, the youngest.
 
konceptjones said:
There's only so much you can do. Ultimately, the kids will become aware, especially money problems. There's really no way to shield them from it.

My kids saw us go from a 3000sq/ft crib on a lake in an upscale master planned community with nice cars and vans and shit to struggling like crazy living off SNAP, my wife's disability, and whatever little bit of work I could find. They were aware of it the whole time especially my son, the youngest.
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I know this. That still doesn't change the fact that if given another option im sure most would not have their kids worrying about adult issues. And thats all I was ever saying.
 
BlackRain said:
I know this. That still doesn't change the fact that if given another option im sure most would not have their kids worrying about adult issues. And thats all I was ever saying.
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bruh


all he said was give your kids information, don't lie to them




you acting like he's telling a 9yr old they need to think about getting a job to help contribute or whatever
 
BRIAN B. said:
bruh


all he said was give your kids information, don't lie to them




you acting like he's telling a 9yr old they need to think about getting a job to help contribute or whatever
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Nah I made it very clear what i meant. Even the post you quoted says worrying nothing about working. But this is also the problem with the performative yelling into a mic delivery.
 
BlackRain said:
Nah I made it very clear what i meant. Even the post you quoted says worrying nothing about working. But this is also the problem with the performative yelling into a mic delivery.
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no


you didn't make it very clear




you're talkin bout kids worrying about adult issues



well what's 1 of the main issues adults deal with?

going to work to pay the bills





so what adult issues are you talking about that kids shouldn't worry about?
 
BRIAN B. said:
no


you didn't make it very clear




you're talkin bout kids worrying about adult issues



well what's 1 of the main issues adults deal with?

going to work to pay the bills





so what adult issues are you talking about that kids shouldn't worry about?
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Kid shouldn't worry about seeing eviction noticed on the door. Worrying about whether tje fridge gonna have good in it. Worrying aboit whether they gotta spend another winter sharing and swapping shoes and clothes that dont fit with a sibling. None of that involves them getting a job because realistically they can't. But as has been said kids aren't ignorant to their circumstances and can be made aware of how dire their situation can be. You're making this more difficult for yourself
 
smh


no



you're making this more difficult



you heard "give your kids information" & your takeaway was "kids shouldn't worry about adult issues"



idk how you made that leap
 
BlackRain said:
Nah I made it very clear what i meant. Even the post you quoted says worrying nothing about working. But this is also the problem with the performative yelling into a mic delivery.
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I think it was clear to you, because it was you that wrote it. However, you got multiple cats in here telling you it wasn't clear and commenting on what we all thought you were talking about. At a point you gotta understand that whatever idea you were trying to convey didn't come across clearly, as evidenced by just how many of us "got it wrong".
 
konceptjones said:
I think it was clear to you, because it was you that wrote it. However, you got multiple cats in here telling you it wasn't clear and commenting on what we all thought you were talking about. At a point you gotta understand that whatever idea you were trying to convey didn't come across clearly, as evidenced by just how many of us "got it wrong".
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Cool
 
BlackRain said:
Kid shouldn't worry about seeing eviction noticed on the door. Worrying about whether tje fridge gonna have good in it. Worrying aboit whether they gotta spend another winter sharing and swapping shoes and clothes that dont fit with a sibling. None of that involves them getting a job because realistically they can't. But as has been said kids aren't ignorant to their circumstances and can be made aware of how dire their situation can be. You're making this more difficult for yourself
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Black kids in the United States still go through this issue in 2025 lol? Kids going through multiple winters in the US sharing shoes in 2025?

I would to believe in 2025, black kids in the 50 states are not going through the stuff that you're talking bout lol.

Do you know black kids going through this in 2025? lol
 
Knock_Twice said:
Black kids in the United States still go through this issue in 2025 lol? Kids going through multiple winters in the US sharing shoes in 2025?

I would to believe in 2025, black kids in the 50 states are not going through the stuff that you're talking bout lol.

Do you know black kids going through this in 2025? lol
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My job picks a family to sponsor every year for Christmas and yes, there are still black kids that are going through this in 2025 as evidenced by the things they request to get for Christmas
 
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