I guess I’ll ask… where the f%#k is Black Lives Matter?

[ThaManMythLegnd]

Nah times may not be bad for you...but things are definitely bad or could be bad very soon for alot of people. You got folks livelihoods and ability to provide for their families in jeopardy because of Elon and Trump

People livelihoods are always at risk depending who's in government. But in neither of our lifetimes has there ever been a President or Congress that have worked to help us. And again we're 13% of the pop., it's never gonna happen. We still have over a $trillion collectively in GDP and purchasing power. The problem is we don't invest, we don't own properties, and we don't support our own businesses. All of those things is how we fix things in a meaningful way. it's what Jews and Asians do now. It's what we used to do (as much as we could). Those who ignore all the media nonsense and know the internet isn't real will profit, it's why I told people here after the election to invest in things that will do well under Trump (like energy).

The powers that be have been on a 20 years long campaign to make us feel hopeless and in need of their help. We went from preaching black excellence to I don't even know where things are now. But fighting white people's battles isn't going to move us forward. Picking between Biden, Trump, Clinton, isn't moving any needles. And the black politicians we get are always go along to get along types. Meanwhile Jews have AIPAC wielding REAL power/influence.

 

[Freeman]

So you don't care that these people are dismantling laws our grandparents fought for? They want to erase and whitewash our history and contributions to this country. That's not bad to you?? So at what point should we start considering the current situation as bad?

By the time these goofy niggas consider it bad they'll suddenly become tired of this website and you'll never know.

 

[ThaManMythLegnd]

So you don't care that these people are dismantling laws our grandparents fought for? They want to erase and whitewash our history and contributions to this country. That's not bad to you?? So at what point should we start considering the current situation as bad?

What? What laws did black lives matter protect? They didn't do anything but make millions for themselves.

Not sure how you took my post about us uniting and looking out for ourselves as being ok with whitewashing our history. What I do know is that every administration hasn't done right by us, and every congress has been worthless. Doesn't mean you throw your hands up, times aren't nearly as bad as it was for our parents or grandparents. But we have to actually fix problems that have been going on for decades or it's not going to change. The majority isn't going to help us

 

[BlackRain]

People livelihoods are always at risk depending who's in government. But in neither of our lifetimes has there ever been a President or Congress that have worked to help us. And again we're 13% of the pop., it's never gonna happen. We still have over a $trillion collectively in GDP and purchasing power. The problem is we don't invest, we don't own properties, and we don't support our own businesses. All of those things is how we fix things in a meaningful way. it's what Jews and Asians do now. It's what we used to do(as much as we could). Those who ignore all the media nonsense and know the internet isn't real will profit, it's why I told people here after the election to invest in things that will do well under Trump(like energy).

The powers that be have been on a 20 years long campaign to make us feel hopeless and in need of their help. We went from preaching black excellence to I don't even know where things are now. But fighting white people's battles isn't going to move us forward. Picking between Biden, Trump, Clinton, isn't moving any needles. And the black politicians we get are always go along to get along types. Meanwhile Jews have AIPAC wielding REAL power/influence.

The problem is when you say shit like "fighting white people's battles" as if Black folks are immune to the effects of these things. Those things you're talking about like investing, property ownership etc aren't even realistic dreams for most people because they're living check to check. And if the average American is living like that then how you think the average Black person is living? Not saying all Black folks are down bad, but we all know that when shit gets bad for this country we feel it the most. So just saying shit like "invest" when people ain't got money to invest rings hollow and like you don't know the reality of most people. You say the internet isn't real but your idea is very chronically online and not based in the reality of most people day to day lives.

 

[ThaManMythLegnd]

The problem is when you say shit like "fighting white people's battles" as if Black folks are immune to the effects of these things. Those things you're talking about like investing, property ownership etc aren't even realistic dreams for most people because they're living check to check. And if the average American is living like that then how you think the average Black person is living? Not saying all Black folks are down bad, but we all know that when shit gets bad for this country we feel it the most. So just saying shit like "invest" when people ain't got money to invest rings hollow and like you don't know the reality of most people. You say the internet isn't real but your idea is very chronically online and not based in the reality of most people day to day lives.

We have issues in our own communities that always get overlooked, so no I don't think we should be fighting white people's battles for them. They sure as hell don't fight our battles in return.

And what do you mean investing and owning isn't a realistic dream?? It's exactly what you do to get out of the low wage bracket, The key is not spending extra money on frivolous shit and putting it aside. There's so many grants and opportunities out there for people that it's crazy. When I used to volunteer at the Urban League back in the day out here we helped get hundreds on the path to being business and property owners.

This notion that we "can't" do these things has been proven false a million times over. If anyone needs a good starting point, check out the NUL https://nul.org/program/entrepreneurship

 

[Tayboo]

What? What laws did black lives matter protect? They didn't do anything but make millions for themselves.

Not sure how you took my post about us uniting and looking out for ourselves as being ok with whitewashing our history. What I do know is that every administration hasn't done right by us, and every congress has been worthless. Doesn't mean you throw your hands up, times aren't nearly as bad as it was for our parents or grandparents. But we have to actually fix problems that have been going on for decades or it's not going to change. The majority isn't going to help us

BLM and all the current people who considers themselves as a leader don't give a shit which is why my first post in this thread was...

These new age "black leaders" can give 2 fucks about the legacy of what the generations before us fought for.

You said things aren't that bad right now when This administration is taking steps to reverse civil rights laws and no longer talking about black history. So I am asking is that not bad to you?

 

[BlackRain]

We have issues in our own communities that always get overlooked, so no I don't think we should be fighting white people's battles for them. They sure as hell don't fight our battles in return.

And what do you mean investing and owning isn't a realistic dream?? It's exactly what you do to get out of the low wage bracket, The key is not spending extra money on frivolous shit and putting it aside. There's so many grants and opportunities out there for people that it's crazy. When I used to volunteer at the Urban League back in the day out here we helped get hundreds on the path to being business and property owners.

This notion that we "can't" do these things has been proven false a million times over. If anyone needs a good starting point, check out the NUL https://nul.org/program/entrepreneurship

Again you're missing it. Those issues, poverty, schooling, access to certain resources, aren't just Black people's problems. It's a problem every where. So combating those issues isn't "fighting white people's battles for them." And putting issues that directly affect us under "white people shit" hurts far more than it helps and causes people to ignore the real shit.

And no, investing isn't realistic for a person living check to check. You invest when you have money to spare not your last. Thats just not smart. Also, you're once again talking about things that require access to information. Some people who do have extra resources sometimes don't even know how to get started or who to reach out to. And you putting certain issues under "white people problems" one of those things thrown under that is access to this information.

 

[ThaManMythLegnd]

BLM and all the current people who considers themselves as a leader don't give a shit which is why my first post in this thread was...

You said things aren't that bad right now when This administration is taking steps to reverse civil rights laws and no longer talking about black history. So I am asking is that not bad to you?

Of course those things would be bad. But neither is gonna happen and are hypotheticals used to put fear in us. The politics of fear is strong. The answer to this is what many of us say in every election thread here and back on the IC.....we need to vote for our own at the local/state/national level. But that's a whole other issue...

I'm 40+, every admin/congress had had issues people worried about, but today things aren't that bad. I've seen Drug laws, Crime bills, Multiple Wars, etc. Maybe for those consuming media 24/7, but in RL people and their families are living their life. In four years they'll be another boogeyman, there always is

 

[Old Man Cain]

BLM and all the current people who considers themselves as a leader don't give a shit which is why my first post in this thread was...

You said things aren't that bad right now when This administration is taking steps to reverse civil rights laws and no longer talking about black history. So I am asking is that not bad to you?

Again you're missing it. Those issues, poverty, schooling, access to certain resources, aren't just Black people's problems. It's a problem every where. So combating those issues isn't "fighting white people's battles for them." And putting issues that directly affect us under "white people shit" hurts far more than it helps and causes people to ignore the real shit.

And no, investing isn't realistic for a person living check to check. You invest when you have money to spare not your last. Thats just not smart. Also, you're once again talking about things that require access to information. Some people who do have extra resources sometimes don't even know how to get started or who to reach out to. And you putting certain issues under "white people problems" one of those things thrown under that is access to this information.

You're wasting your breath people won't believe shit stink until it's on their nose. The systematic cooking of our people has been set in place by this new batch of fuck nighas and currently elected president. Just leave it alone

 

[Tayboo]

Of course those things would be bad. But neither is gonna happen and are hypotheticals used to put fear in us. The politics of fear is strong. The answer to this is what many of us say in every election thread here and back on the IC.....we need to vote for our own at the local/state/national level. But that's a whole other issue...

I'm 40+, every admin/congress had had issues people worried about, but today things aren't that bad. I've seen Drug laws, Crime bills, Multiple Wars, etc. Maybe for those consuming media 24/7, but in RL people and their families are living their life. In four years they'll be another boogeyman, there always is

Uh those things are not hypothetical, they are actively happening right now in real time. I know it can be hard to keep up with all the executive orders Trump has been whipping out recently, but reversing the anti discrimination order signed by Lyndon Johnson, getting rid of DEI within government agencies, threatening to sue private companies who have also dei policies, and getting rid of CRT in public schools are all things Trump has done since taking office. And these are just the first steps...

 

[ThaManMythLegnd]

Again you're missing it. Those issues, poverty, schooling, access to certain resources, aren't just Black people's problems. It's a problem every where. So combating those issues isn't "fighting white people's battles for them." And putting issues that directly affect us under "white people shit" hurts far more than it helps and causes people to ignore the real shit.

And no, investing isn't realistic for a person living check to check. You invest when you have money to spare not your last. Thats just not smart. Also, you're once again talking about things that require access to information. Some people who do have extra resources sometimes don't even know how to get started or who to reach out to. And you putting certain issues under "white people problems" one of those things thrown under that is access to this information.

The issues in our communities are unique. We are treated differently. We weren't considered equal for most of this nation's history, and when we finally got Civil Rights.....mass white flight happened. Our communities have fake ass stooges who do nothing but showout for white politicians and steal money invested. We had drugs purposely dumped into our neighborhoods, and then we were mass incarcerated. So no, don't really care about white people's problems.

And f course investing is realistic, it happens everyday. You say check to check as if people can't get financial help. It's the WOAT advice to tell our people they can't invest, and to hope the powers that be will help them(spoiler: they won't and never have). I dropped a link to the NUL which has direct info for anyone reading who wants help with that.

Financially literacy is definitely something we need more of taught and spread around. Collectively we have the 5th biggest GDP in the world

 

[ThaManMythLegnd]

Uh those things are not hypothetical, they are actively happening right now in real time. I know it can be hard to keep up with all the executive orders Trump has been whipping out recently, but reversing the anti discrimination order signed by Lyndon Johnson, getting rid of DEI within government agencies, threatening to sue private companies who have also dei policies, and getting rid of CRT in public schools are all things Trump has done since taking office. And these are just the first steps...

I read the news, but again...we just had an election. People with families and responsibilities can't go "woah is me" for the next four years

None of this shit compares to the drug push that was done to our communities. None of this compares to the Crime Bill and the mass incarceration we had in the 90s. None of this compares to the wars we had in the 00s or financial collapse. So I'll say it again, every president/congress in our lifetimes hasn't been looking out for us. And black lives matter never did anything for us. The idea that we need people to tell us how to move and think is BS. We did it all on our own during the civil rights era.

A lot of people out there want us perpetually unhappy and worried, nah fuck that

 

[Knock_Twice]

Uh those things are not hypothetical, they are actively happening right now in real time. I know it can be hard to keep up with all the executive orders Trump has been whipping out recently, but reversing the anti discrimination order signed by Lyndon Johnson, getting rid of DEI within government agencies, threatening to sue private companies who have also dei policies, and getting rid of CRT in public schools are all things Trump has done since taking office. And these are just the first steps...

Let's go with what you are saying that's happening.

1. Let's say they take out all of black history in 2nd, 3rd and 4th grade, 5th grade schools starting on Friday

What actually happens to black people on Saturday or better yet, what happens to those black kids that are in these schools, do they become dumber, fail, not know who they are?? Do MLK stopped being talked about?? Will those kids that are in those grades grow up to be adults and not know who the Moors are? Or who created math, do they grow up to not know that black folks were the first paramedics or know that a black man found the city of Buffalo? Will those kids grow up to not know about any black history in your opinion?


2. Let's say they get rid DEI on Friday, will a black person NEVER ever get a job?? Keep in my DEI helps white women the most

 

[Royal]

So you don't care that these people are dismantling laws our grandparents fought for? They want to erase and whitewash our history and contributions to this country. That's not bad to you?? So at what point should we start considering the current situation as bad?

Facts I definitely care and know if a stance is not made, this shit would go back to the ante bellum slaves days..

They wanna send all the "illegal " ppll back. Start a industrialization or start producing things more in house and guess who gonna be the workers in these factories ....not white folks...they gonna be running it.

Prison labor on steroids...

And while the saying I am not my ancestors I think could be looked at like ppl are saying couldn't go through what they went through... sometimes I think it's a slap in the face comment to what has been paved before us

 

[Knock_Twice]

Uh those things are not hypothetical, they are actively happening right now in real time. I know it can be hard to keep up with all the executive orders Trump has been whipping out recently, but reversing the anti discrimination order signed by Lyndon Johnson, getting rid of DEI within government agencies, threatening to sue private companies who have also dei policies, and getting rid of CRT in public schools are all things Trump has done since taking office. And these are just the first steps...

Let's look into the past:

Black history is taught in school? What does that do for black kids as a whole?? Where are boys reading level skills? What kind of teachers are at these schools? Where are the parents at, do they attend after school programs and those teachers conferences? With black history being taught in school NOW, what is the current state of black kids, specifically black boys that are in elementary?

With DEI being at these current agencies and jobs, at what % did black people get hired with DEI being in place. Did DEI help black people as a whole?? I think even you said in another thread, that DEI doesn't help black folks.

With having CRT in public schools, are public helping black kids??

All of these things that you are afraid that Trump is getting rid of, if we keep these things, why is it that Black folks are still at the bottom of everything?

I'm just trying to understand this mindset of keeping things that doesn't even move the needle for black folks as a whole

 

[AP4.0]

 

[Knock_Twice]

So you don't care that these people are dismantling laws our grandparents fought for? They want to erase and whitewash our history and contributions to this country. That's not bad to you?? So at what point should we start considering the current situation as bad?

I know I go back and forth with you, and I get the passion you have for the ancestors, but with me, it comes a time when the truth has to be said out loud and the truth is, none of these things that our grandparents have fought for and died for is even benefitting black folks in 2025 as a whole.

Many if not everything that they have died for has been watered down and been used by other group of people. These other groups of people have squeezed all of the juice and now that it's not working for them any more, the fear of them being at the bottom is what's causing everybody to be fearful in my opinion.

Folks who never been at the bottom now are understanding that they will come to the bottom and the leeching will be no more.

 

[Knock_Twice]

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It's not even that type of party breh. stop with the side-lining breh

 

[AP4.0]

It's not even that type of party breh. stop with the side-lining breh

 

[Tayboo]

Let's go with what you are saying that's happening.

1. Let's say they take out all of black history in 2nd, 3rd and 4th grade, 5th grade schools starting on Friday

What actually happens to black people on Saturday or better yet, what happens to those black kids that are in these schools, do they become dumber, fail, not know who they are?? Do MLK stopped being talked about?? Will those kids that are in those grades grow up to be adults and not know who the Moors are? Are who created math? Will those kids grow up to not know about any black history in your opinion?


2. Let's say they get rid DEI on Friday, will a black person NEVER ever get a job?? Keep in my DEI helps white women the most

You and I have had this conversation previously...it's bigger then just getting rid of Black History Month and DEI. Getting rid of those things not only is a spit in the face to those that came before us, which should be reason enough for us push back, if we let this slide this administration go further with trying make black people go back to being basically second citizens. That is one of their goals.