I guess I’ll ask… where the f%#k is Black Lives Matter?

ThaManMythLegnd said:
The issues in our communities are unique. We are treated differently. We weren't considered equal for most of this nation's history, and when we finally got Civil Rights.....mass white flight happened. Our communities have fake ass stooges who do nothing but showout for white politicians and steal money invested. We had drugs purposely dumped into our neighborhoods, and then we were mass incarcerated. So no, don't really care about white people's problems.

And f course investing is realistic, it happens everyday. You say check to check as if people can't get financial help. It's the WOAT advice to tell our people they can't invest, and to hope the powers that be will help them(spoiler: they won't and never have). I dropped a link to the NUL which has direct info for anyone reading who wants help with that.

Financially literacy is definitely something we need more of taught and spread around. Collectively we have the 5th biggest GDP in the world
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The issues in our communities need to be addressed in unique ways...but the issues themselves are not unique in that they are often very much class based as well. So again you dismissing them as white people problems doesn't actually address anything at all. It does more to ignore things and keep your head in the sand.

You're just tossing out buzz words. "Invest." Invest in what? With who? It sounds good as an idea. In actual practice the vast majority of investments do not work out as most businesses fail. So no, it's not a good idea to tell a person who is check to check to just "invest". I'm not saying people can't or shouldn't invest. But when people are more concerned with their next meal and surviving day to day or week to week...then you gotta come with something better than "invest" because that requires disposable income. And more importantly disposable income you're ok with losing and that's not a reality for many.
 
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Royal said:
Facts I definitely care and know if a stance is not made, this shit would go back to the ante bellum slaves days..

They wanna send all the "illegal " ppll back. Start a industrialization or start producing things more in house and guess who gonna be the workers in these factories ....not white folks...they gonna be running it.

Prison labor on steroids...

And while the saying I am not my ancestors I think could be looked at like ppl are saying couldn't go through what they went through... sometimes I think it's a slap in the face comment to what has been paved before us
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I despise that phrase and anything close to it. It's a blatant slap in the face to them.
 
Tayboo said:
You and I have had this conversation previously...it's bigger then just getting rid of Black History Month and DEI. Getting rid of those things not only is a spit in the face to those that came before us, which should be reason enough for us push back, if we let this slide this administration go further with trying make black people go back to being basically second citizens. That is one of their goals.
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The truth for me is, these folks see us as second class citizens already, nothing is going to change their minds unless we dominate. The having or not having black history and dei and all of these other things in place, every other group see us less than them.

They don't buy from us, they don't sell to us other than the products to make their families money
They don't support us, they only support us if it's a gain for them
They take from us and they don't share with us.

I've come to realization that nobody is coming to save black folks, people are trying to look out for them and their own group and that's very well fine with me.

We should have been on that wave a long time ago.

Trump is going to do what he's goin to do, all this woe the sky is falling, like dude said, there will always be a boogyman in place.

Love yours and enjoy life
 
Knock_Twice said:
I know I go back and forth with you, and I get the passion you have for the ancestors, but with me, it comes a time when the truth has to be said out loud and the truth is, none of these things that our grandparents have fought for and died for is even benefitting black folks in 2025 as a whole.

Many if not everything that they have died for has been watered down and been used by other group of people. These other groups of people have squeezed all of the juice and now that it's not working for them any more, the fear of them being at the bottom is what's causing everybody to be fearful in my opinion.

Folks who never been at the bottom now are understanding that they will come to the bottom and the leeching will be no more.
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This line of thinking is exactly why we should be fighting for black history to stay being taught in schools.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
We have issues in our own communities that always get overlooked, so no I don't think we should be fighting white people's battles for them. They sure as hell don't fight our battles in return.

And what do you mean investing and owning isn't a realistic dream?? It's exactly what you do to get out of the low wage bracket, The key is not spending extra money on frivolous shit and putting it aside. There's so many grants and opportunities out there for people that it's crazy. When I used to volunteer at the Urban League back in the day out here we helped get hundreds on the path to being business and property owners.

This notion that we "can't" do these things has been proven false a million times over. If anyone needs a good starting point, check out the NUL https://nul.org/program/entrepreneurship
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You and I have the same mindset, my only push back and it's not even a pushback is the investing part.

Grants and opportunities are out there, true, for black men that's trying to obtain these resources, it's not that easy to say.

We talk about having 'money' to invest, but we rarely talk about the educational part and knowledge part about knowing the ins and outs of investing. Banking, how certain type of loans work, how tax credits work, how interests works when investing or shopping around for a lender to lend you the money to invest.
We rarely talk about that sector part in investing. Most folks say that they want to invest, "sounds good" but the knowledge be so off.

I guess what I'm saying is, the money is the least concerns in my opinion, I would push knowledge of the investment more so.
Folks telling black folks over 50 to invest in crypto and you ask the average black man or woman over 50 what's a blockchain, they couldn't tell you but they wanna know how to buy Doge coin...like no, learn and I hate to say this out loud, nah I aint go say it, but yea...knowledge is my main thing.
 
I'm leaning towards anarchy being the only way. Everything else is starting to feel too fake and trendy on a far too regular basis. People say a whole lot, yet their actions don't represent that in the least. That's not any group in particular, that is just humans.

I bet at one point in time, the world appeared on pace for global harmony, but something fueled by greed and pain won and has been the primary driving force behind human evolution.

Nothing, absolutely nothing in this world represents the slightest of hope that humans will ever reach a point of not being primarily influenced by greed and pain. I keep looking for it, but social media did a number on the human psyche that we may never recover from.
 
rip.dilla said:
LMAO...


Called them clowns and in the same sentence said they're needed...
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That’s a big reason we don’t have a lot of leaders no more. Black community assumes that when we do something it’s going to be too many haters trying to shoot us down. And nighas like to prove it.
 
Tayboo said:
This line of thinking is exactly why we should be fighting for black history to stay being taught in schools.
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Ok lady, you're right. Let's keep things how they are...we will rise to the top

Black folks will surpass all of these other groups if we keep black history, MLK, and Rosa Parks in the 2nd grade textbooks along with DEI.

Yea us
 
BlackRain said:
You're just tossing out buzz words. "Invest." Invest in what? With who? It sounds good as an idea. In actual practice the vast majority of investments do not work out as most businesses fail. So no, it's not a good idea to tell a person who is check to check to just "invest". I'm not saying people can't or shouldn't invest. But when people are more concerned with their next meal and surviving day to day or week to week...then you gotta come with something better than "invest" because that requires disposable income. And more importantly disposable income you're ok with losing and that's not a reality for many.
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I said who and with what, I even dropped a link for people: https://nul.org/program/entrepreneurship

I was day to day starting out, as were most. In no way are we prevented from investing in ourselves due to that. You have to go seek financial help which is all over the place. You have to build to own, you have to save, you have to sacrifice in the now, to make way for the future.

Or someone can just say it's not possible and sit there hoping to be saved, but that's not happening.
 
Knock_Twice said:
You and I have the same mindset, my only push back and it's not even a pushback is the investing part.

Grants and opportunities are out there, true, for black men that's trying to obtain these resources, it's not that easy to say.

We talk about having 'money' to invest, but we rarely talk about the educational part and knowledge part about knowing the ins and outs of investing. Banking, how certain type of loans work, how tax credits work, how interests works when investing or shopping around for a lender to lend you the money to invest.
We rarely talk about that sector part in investing. Most folks say that they want to invest, "sounds good" but the knowledge be so off.

I guess what I'm saying is, the money is the least concerns in my opinion, I would push knowledge of the investment more so.
Folks telling black folks over 50 to invest in crypto and you ask the average black man or woman over 50 what's a blockchain, they couldn't tell you but they wanna know how to buy Doge coin...like no, learn and I hate to say this out loud, nah I aint go say it, but yea...knowledge is my main thing.
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I agree with you on the knowledge aspect to things. That goes for investing, businesses, daily finances, and credit too.
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
I said who and with what, I even dropped a link for people: https://nul.org/program/entrepreneurship

I was day to day starting out, as were most. In no way are we prevented from investing in ourselves due to that. You have to go seek financial help which is all over the place. You have to build to own, you have to save, you have to sacrifice in the now, to make way for the future.

Or someone can just say it's not possible and sit there hoping to be saved, but that's not happening.
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Part of seeking financial help falls under what you are deeming "white people problems" because there's a bunch of things that fall under that umbrella. And thats why I'm saying using that blanket dismissal does more harm than good.

Also funny you literally just agreed with what I said coming from somebody else
 
Knock_Twice said:
Lock this nigga out LMAOO

Breh we are being serious, we are being dead serious here man, LMAO stop that

LMAOO
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Nah, niggas still thinking like their parents and grandparents when they know the game that’s being played now. The rules are known and information on how to play and to win is out here. Play the game. Like DEI my ass, if you know how to weld, you’re gonna get a welding job. Teach your own kids black history, don’t break the law if you don’t wanna be in the prison complex. Know that everybody can not and will not be saved. If you’re of the ones that figured it out, be thankful, keep building and put all that energy in your offspring so they can do it 100x better.
 
Knock_Twice said:
Ok lady, you're right. Let's keep things how they are...we will rise to the top

Black folks will surpass all of these other groups if we keep black history, MLK, and Rosa Parks in the 2nd grade textbooks along with DEI.

Yea us
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It's not about keeping the status quo or finding a savior, but the fact that you can't recognize that that erasing histories has been a repeated first step to damn near every single fascist regime is crazy.
 
God_Body said:
Nah, niggas still thinking like their parents and grandparents when they know the game that’s being played now. The rules are known and information on how to play and to win is out here. Play the game. Like DEI my ass, if you know how to weld, you’re gonna get a welding job. Teach your own kids black history, don’t break the law if you don’t wanna be in the prison complex. Know that everybody can not and will not be saved. If you’re of the ones that figured it out, be thankful, keep building and put all that energy in your offspring so they can do it 100x better.
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Nah, we want the school to do that job
 
Tayboo said:
It's not about keeping the status quo or finding a savior, but the fact that you can't recognize that that erasing histories has been a repeated first step to damn near every single fascist regime is crazy.
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The history has been erased. It's up to you to teach it yourself. How much do you know about Kemet, The Nile Valley, Ethiopia etc? How much do you know about the Moors? Hannibel, Imhotep yes that's a real person, where the word "hotep" comes from

How much do you know about Re-Construction Era?

Dr. Henry, Dr. Claude, Anthony Browder, Dr. Welsing, Dr. Kabba, Dr. Ivan, Dr. Chancellor, Dr. Babba Kwan, Minster Farrakhan, I can go on, the information that these folks have produced, just these names that I listed, these people, trumps (no pun) any and everything that's taught in school Now about black history.

You'll learn more from these folks than the average person would learn from K-post grad.

Those people, those elders are the people you don't want to erase, these people are the ones who are the real teachers, not the ones in the classrooms, that already precut their curriculums but let's not read our elders work, let's rely on those white teachers to teach our black kids. Those white women who themselves don't know 2% of our history.

Yea Us
 
Tayboo said:
It's not about keeping the status quo or finding a savior, but the fact that you can't recognize that that erasing histories has been a repeated first step to damn near every single fascist regime is crazy.
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It's going to be hard to teach history when it's actively being rewritten. And that measures won't be enacted to make sure only 1 version is told. America operates in alot of propaganda and education is one of the #1 ways it's enacted. So yes, what history people are taught in school matters. Not 1 person said it's the end all be all...but it is a starting point for most people
 
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