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Los216 said:
This is the whole point. Banning assault weapons will do more to slow down these tragedies than anything except for banning guns outright.

The goal is to reduce the frequency of these events. The fastest and most logical way would be to ban weapons that are primarily used to carry out these attacks that serve no purpose for public use.

Yes, without assault rifles people can still use handguns to get the job done but using a handgun reduces the amount of deaths and will lower the frequency of mass shootings in general.
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An AR-15 is not an assault rifle
 
Kzzl said:
The logic behind the AR-15 argument dictates that you'd have to ban all it's equivalents.
If not, the weapon would just be replaced buy another firearm capable of FA fire.
And that eventually leads to the notion of just banning all firearms.
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Gun folks don’t understand.

You can modify guns to FA.

Also, they don’t understand that just because a gun is an AR don’t mean it’s FA. You literally have to pull the trigger on each shot
 
1/2 said:
ok im saying thats the top choice because its there right?.....its like picking the biggest motor they got for your truck

aight say they scrap the badass one, you just gone grab the next down and do your shit

sumn like this in a grocery store he could have gone in with 2 40's and done the same thing....im just saying having that one particular weapon is not the deciding factor here....these people were gonna commit murder.....maybe not doing as much damage tho and I get that

its just slippery and I dont see how or where they could even start cleaning them up....stop the assembly line now, its gotta slow down at some point i guess
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In your 2 40’s situation though, you may be getting off the same number of rounds but at a lower rate and you'll be way less accurate by double wielding them.

Plus when it's time to reload you got 2 mags to change, not just one.

And if you taking it to extended clips, that gap between the two will be even greater.
 
There is no point in any American having military style weapons. I'd even go further to say no one needs a gun at all. If no one has them, you won't need to protect yourself from one. I know that's not realistic though.

And the whole to protect ourselves from the military is stupid. We lost that fight decades ago.
 
TheNightKing said:
In your 2 40’s situation though, you may be getting off the same number of rounds but at a lower rate and you'll be way less accurate by double wielding them.

Plus when it's time to reload you got 2 mags to change, not just one.

And if you taking it to extended clips, that gap between the two will be even greater.
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yeah I didnt even go over all that, just an example
 
TheNightKing said:
In your 2 40’s situation though, you may be getting off the same number of rounds but at a lower rate and you'll be way less accurate by double wielding them.

Plus when it's time to reload you got 2 mags to change, not just one.

And if you taking it to extended clips, that gap between the two will be even greater.
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All these shootings take place at close range and aren't fire fights where rage of fire is a factor. Pistols are arguably more dangerous because they can be concealed.
 
Iono

I feel like when I was deployed and we all had M16's there was a huge difference between that and everyone having a 9MM.


Imagine if we all only had 9's instead of M16's? Our entire approach and strategy would have to be different..........

So getting rid of one type of gun for another is a big difference.
 
OhMars said:
All these shootings take place at close range and aren't fire fights where rage of fire is a factor. Pistols are arguably more dangerous because they can be concealed.
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their point is the rounds are not automatic kills.....40's will put most people down hard but not everybody will die

the power and the ar round being small is what tears shit up.....one body shot is usually ball game....too much bleeding

there's bigger rounds in hunting rifles but you can't fire as much and they actually dont do as much damage....they'll pass through while a AR round will knock a whole patch out

anyway I still feel like 8-10 people can be taken with less but it probably wouldnt be as easy
 
Dwayne said:
An AR-15 is not an assault rifle
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We know.

Just like a Ford Escape isn't the same as a Ford F350 with a Diesel engine it. One is obviously more powerful than the other but If you don't think there's a difference between getting ran over by a Ford Escape and a Ford Focus then I don't know what to tell you.

If somebody got ran over by an Ford Escape instead of a Ford Focus you wouldn't say "Well the Escape doesn't have a Diesel engine so you're good" You're still fucked and the odds of surviving after getting hit by a Ford Escape or F350 Diesel as opposed to a Ford Focus are extremely low.


And yes all 3 cars can kill you but there would be a distinct difference getting hit by a Ford Focus, Ford Escape, or Ford F350 Diesel. The odds of survival decrease as the cars get bigger and more powerful. All 3 can still kill you if you get ran over by them but the survival rates are not the same.


When people argue about AR-15's not being assault rifles they miss the entire point completely.

Nobody gives a fuck about semantics. There are obviously more powerful guns out there than others. Just like people know that there's a clear difference between a Ford Focus, Ford Escape, and a Ford F350 Diesel.
 
Los216 said:
We know.

Just like a Ford Escape isn't the same as a Ford F350 with a Diesel engine it. One is obviously more powerful than the other but If you don't think there's a difference between getting ran over by a Ford Escape and a Ford Focus then I don't know what to tell you.

If somebody got ran over by an Ford Escape instead of a Ford Focus you wouldn't say "Well the Escape doesn't have a Diesel engine so you're good" You're still fucked and the odds of surviving after getting hit by a Ford Escape or F350 Diesel as opposed to a Ford Focus are extremely low.


And yes all 3 cars can kill you but there would be a distinct difference getting hit by a Ford Focus, Ford Escape, or Ford F350 Diesel. The odds of survival decrease as the cars get bigger and more powerful. All 3 can still kill you if you get ran over by them but the survival rates are not the same.


When people argue about AR-15's not being assault rifles they miss the entire point completely.

Nobody gives a fuck about semantics. There are obviously more powerful guns out there than others. Just like people know that there's a clear difference between a Ford Focus, Ford Escape, and a Ford F350 Diesel.
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Absolutely terrible comparison on the highest level
 
TheNightKing said:
There is no point in any American having military style weapons. I'd even go further to say no one needs a gun at all. If no one has them, you won't need to protect yourself from one. I know that's not realistic though.

And the whole to protect ourselves from the military is stupid. We lost that fight decades ago.
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When 15 dudes come after someone with a bat, it's gonna take a gun to brush them back if you're by yourself.

Gun control seems racist to me because it would allow white supremacists to just gang beat minorities.
 
William Munny said:
If I'm remembering correct from the old IC, don't you have folks in Syria?
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Good memory.

And i dont have direct fam there, but i had some connections to the ypg which was fighting ISIS in Syria. So my people did more to fight radical islam than most, but no one cares about that shit.

Seeing the beard is enough to scare folk and i been learned to shave my shit when something like this happens
 
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