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The United States Capitol is under siege by Trump Supporters

Mfers don't really want change

Change is daunting, it's exhausting and uncomfortable. People really like being content because it's easy.

The corporate Dems hate/d Bernie because he was talking real change in
areas that they and the Gop alike greatly benefit from. Can't nominate someone like that

Whether he was able to get anything substantial passed is another topic since he would've been entering the same system that he supposedly opposes.
 
Breezy_Kilroy said:
Mfers don't really want change

Change is daunting, it's exhausting and uncomfortable. People really like being content because it's easy.

The corporate Dems hate/d Bernie because he was talking real change in
areas that they and the Gop alike greatly benefit from. Can't nominate someone like that

Whether he was able to get anything substantial passed is another topic since he would've been entering the same system that he supposedly opposes.
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peep how the media left/right leaning were shitting on Bernie when he was leading in the primary
 
Los216 said:
We're on the verge of a Civil uprising fueled by hatred and white supremacy in the final days of this President and you're asking if the next President is going to bring substantive change and asking if things are going to get better.

Most of us just came of one of the worst years of our lives in 2020.

Asking if we believe if anything will change is then blanket statement of all blanket statements if you simply look at what's unfolding.
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lol Your logic is very strange to me. Trump's band of idiots are acting up. Something's going to come to a head. That's true. What the hell does that have to do with what I'm asking?

Will the government smacking down a bunch of racist fools:

Make secondary education affordable
Reign corporate corruption
Give Americans access to affordable healthcare
Decrease the wealth gap
Fix the trade problems we have
Improve our foreign diplomacy
Address environmental issues
Fix crumbling infrastructure
Get money out of politics
Promote top to bottom criminal justice reform
Legalize Marijuana
Address black problems either through reparations or policies
Fix immigration
etc...

Those are the problems we need fixed. Why do you think this shit that's going on now has anything to do with that? In fact, you're basically proving that if they handle this little disturbance people like you will forget about just how fucked up this country is and how much needs to be addressed.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
lol Your logic is very strange to me. Trump's band of idiots are acting up. Something's going to come to a head. That's true. What the hell does that have to do with what I'm asking?

Will the government smacking down a bunch of racist fools:

Make secondary education affordable
Reign corporate corruption
Give Americans access to affordable healthcare
Decrease the wealth gap
Fix the trade problems we have
Improve our foreign diplomacy
Address environmental issues
Fix crumbling infrastructure
Get money out of politics
Promote top to bottom criminal justice reform
Legalize Marijuana
Address black problems either through reparations or policies
Fix immigration
etc...

Those are the problems we need fixed. Why do you think this shit that's going on now has anything to do with that? In fact, you're basically proving that if they handle this little disturbance people like you will forget about just how fucked up this country is and how much needs to be addressed.
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I swear to fucking God.......................

Democrats have literally addressed all of those things that you listed.

There are dozens of Bills that address those things specifically the The democratic led House has already passed. They cannot be inacted until they aree approved by The Senate.

THE REPUBLICANS HAVE CONTROLLED THE SENATE

AFTER NEXT WEDNESDAY THEY WON'T AND DEMOCRATS WILL EASILY PASS ALL OF THAT SHIT THAT YOU LISTED

THEY DON'T EVEN NEED TO WRITE UP NEW BILLS BECAUSE THERE ARE BILLS FOR ALL OF THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ALREADY EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Race Jones said:
ok but that doesn’t mean progressives should stop fighting for/publicizing the issue. its barely spoke about.
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How is it barely spoken about? Democrats won seats campaigning on it. Universal healthcare is one of the biggest topics and talking points in American Politics.

Healthcare is a bigger issue to Americans than the Economy and National Security.

How is it barely spoken about?
 
Los216 said:
THE REPUBLICANS HAVE CONTROLLED THE SENATE

AFTER NEXT WEDNESDAY THEY WON'T AND DEMOCRATS WILL EASILY PASS ALL OF THAT SHIT THAT YOU LISTED

THEY DON'T EVEN NEED TO WRITE UP NEW BILLS BECAUSE THERE ARE BILLS FOR ALL OF THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ALREADY EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I want to see how this plays out.
 
Los216 said:
How is it barely spoken about? Democrats won seats campaigning on it. Universal healthcare is one of the biggest topics and talking points in American Politics.

Healthcare is a bigger issue to Americans than the Economy and National Security.

How is it barely spoken about?
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they won seats campaigning off it but refused to force the vote. progressive members of congress coulve withheld their votes for pelosi as speaker of the House in exchange for a floor vote on m4a.


they chose not to.
 
Los216 said:
I swear to fucking God.......................

Democrats have literally addressed all of those things that you listed.

There are dozens of Bills that address those things specifically the The democratic led House has already passed. They cannot be inacted until they aree approved by The Senate.

THE REPUBLICANS HAVE CONTROLLED THE SENATE

AFTER NEXT WEDNESDAY THEY WON'T AND DEMOCRATS WILL EASILY PASS ALL OF THAT SHIT THAT YOU LISTED

THEY DON'T EVEN NEED TO WRITE UP NEW BILLS BECAUSE THERE ARE BILLS FOR ALL OF THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ALREADY EXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!
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lol Bruh, settle down.

You see the half measures that are being pushed by the Dems now as being real change. That's where we disagree. You also take their word for the fact that everything is going to go just as they say despite the fact that it never does. Remember, Obama had a supermajority too with a bunch of stuff they said would go through immediately that didn't really work out.

It is what is though. We'll all just believe what we believe and see what turns out.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
lol Your logic is very strange to me. Trump's band of idiots are acting up. Something's going to come to a head. That's true. What the hell does that have to do with what I'm asking?

Will the government smacking down a bunch of racist fools:

Make secondary education affordable
Reign corporate corruption
Give Americans access to affordable healthcare
Decrease the wealth gap
Fix the trade problems we have
Improve our foreign diplomacy
Address environmental issues
Fix crumbling infrastructure
Get money out of politics
Promote top to bottom criminal justice reform
Legalize Marijuana
Address black problems either through reparations or policies
Fix immigration
etc...

Those are the problems we need fixed. Why do you think this shit that's going on now has anything to do with that? In fact, you're basically proving that if they handle this little disturbance people like you will forget about just how fucked up this country is and how much needs to be addressed.
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Not to mention that a lot of these things that you listed as issues Trump went out of his way to gut.

Trump gutted immigration with the family separations and the travel bans

Trump gutted environmental issues by prioritizing coal (wtf) and taking us out of The Paris Climate Agreement

Trump has not done a single thing to fix our infrastructure. That's why Infrastructure week has been a running joke since 2017.

Criminal justice reform? Look at who trump put on The SCOTUS and look at his judges, Attorney Generals like Bill Barr and Jeff fucking Sessions. Trump gutted the Criminal Justice system and took us back to the 1950's. Have you seen Joe Biden's AG Merrick Garland and his associates including Kristen Clarke?

Address Black Problems? We've went over this ad nauseam about what Joe Biden has planned for Black people but no matter how many times niggas need to see it spelled out the refuse to believe or give any of it a chance so what's the fucking point in even asking anymore in here?

Make Education affordable? Trump had Betsy DeVos lead the Education department and she was by far the absolute worst Education Secretary in American history. Joe Biden has once again already laid out his plan on how to address this and one of them includes making Community College free but as soon as you say that niggas wanna come in here and do whataboutisms.

Legalizing weed is already a States issue that we don't need to wait on Joe Biden to fix. If anything you should be more concerned with the criminal justice aspect of that which if you actually pay attention to some of Biden's picks, you wouldn't have anything to worry about.
 
Los216 said:
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This shit irks me. What irks me even more is that alot of established Dems tend to fall into those talking point about "uniting" and "healing" the country rather than punishing/seeking justice on these crazy ass Republicans intent on letting the country burn if they dont get their way.

Cant unite or heal the divide with people like that. lol imagine gettin stomped out by a buncha niggas.... then when you roll up wit ya peoples and now THEY are outnumbered they talkin bout... "We need to focus on healing and not this ass whippin we bout to get that will divide us even further... what you're doing here isnt helpful"

lol bitch please
 
The Lonious Monk said:
lol Bruh, settle down.

You see the half measures that are being pushed by the Dems now as being real change. That's where we disagree. You also take their word for the fact that everything is going to go just as they say despite the fact that it never does. Remember, Obama had a supermajority too with a bunch of stuff they said would go through immediately that didn't really work out.

It is what is though. We'll all just believe what we believe and see what turns out.
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But you're the one who's asking if things that are already done will get done?

Look at some of the shit that you listed.

Democrats in The House have already addressed these things.

You can't keep saying we'll see when they already did it!!!!!!!!!
 
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