Trump unveils 'Platinum Plan' for Black Americans...Tags Ice Cube into the ring

Los216 said:
Saying Biden doesn't have a vision is factually incorrect. Even he people who don't like Biden are acknowledging what his vision is. His website literally has his entire agenda on it but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you haven't read that shit have you? Like, you insinuating in your post that Biden doesn't have a Black Agenda when he does have one.

Ice Cube is not offering any solutions. $500B to black America? How? There's no substance in that. Make Juneteenth a holiday? Uh Democrats already had a bill to do that in June of this year and Ron Johnson and the Republicans killed it. So Trump is going to make it happen when his own party killed it already? make that make sense.

There was no police reform in that plan Ice Cube laid out. None. Biden addresses police reform. Is it the perfect solution that everybody wants? probably not but Trump doesn't even address it.

You sound just like Ice Cube falling for a Trump okey doke.
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I swear i'm done after this lmao... there you go again trying to pass off your opinions as fact. AGAIN.... Trumps plan is NOT Cubes plan... but you keep trying to make it seem like that to fit your talking points.

Also... just an FYI on Cubes Contract with Black America....

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Inori said:
I swear i'm done after this lmao... there you go again trying to pass off your opinions as fact. AGAIN.... Trumps plan is NOT Cubes plan... but you keep trying to make it seem like that to fit your talking points.

Also... just an FYI on Cubes Contract with Black America....

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Ice Cube got in bed with a white supremacist for moths and negotiated at the table with them knowing damn well that they could easily white wash his whole agenda. And what did they do? They hijacked his whole agenda and because of that Ice Cube's original plan is irrelevant. he was smart enough to know that this would happen yet Ice Cube himself allowed it to happen. That tells you all you need to know about O'Shea as a person and how much he truly cared abut his Contract With Black America. If it was that important to him he wouldn't have worked behind the scenes with racist for months and allow the messaging to get hijacked.
 
Los216 said:
Saying Biden doesn't have a vision is factually incorrect. Even he people who don't like Biden are acknowledging what his vision is. His website literally has his entire agenda on it but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you haven't read that shit have you? Like, you insinuating in your post that Biden doesn't have a Black Agenda when he does have one.

Ice Cube is not offering any solutions. $500B to black America? How? There's no substance in that. Make Juneteenth a holiday? Uh Democrats already had a bill to do that in June of this year and Ron Johnson and the Republicans killed it. So Trump is going to make it happen when his own party killed it already? make that make sense.

There was no police reform in that plan Ice Cube laid out. None. Biden addresses police reform. Is it the perfect solution that everybody wants? probably not but Trump doesn't even address it.

You sound just like Ice Cube falling for a Trump okey doke.
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Biden doesn't have a black agenda, how can you lie and say he does now? Website pages don't mean shit to me if the man himself can't speak on the issues. I don't care what some intern posted on his webpage.

Cube's focus is offering solutions and making either party come to the table. If Kim K could get reform passed, then yes i think Cube could get movement with his plan. Trump is a narcissist who cares about being liked, so he'll go along with whatever he thinks makes him look better. And this isn't about one guy, but both of them. We don't know who will win in Nov, so it's always better to approach both parties, make them fight for our vote.

And I don't even know what to say about "Biden addresses police reform"....the man created the system we living in. he's the one who created imbalance with drug sentencing, that was Biden. he's the one who wrote the 94 bill and gave states incentives to lock us up in mass for $$$. he's the guy who just recently said he was still for stop/frisk. Most of you are too young to remember all the shit that went down in the 80s/90s. But "shooting us in the leg" isn't moving my needle.

You say Cube fell for the okey doke, but really you and everyone attacking him are the ones getting played. They said jump, and yall yelling "how high?". We can't even ask Biden for specifics now, that's the state of this I guess. No one gives a shit about Trump, this is about exerting our power to whomever wins. once Biden gets in the WH, we have no leverage.
 
Los216 said:
Ice Cube got in bed with a white supremacist for moths and negotiated at the table with them knowing damn well that they could easily white wash his whole agenda.
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I just keep laughing cause this is you with Biden. Difference is Cube is trying to have things set no matter who wins in November, while you're on a forum going at anyone who looks the wrong way at Biden.
 
Inori said:
.. that's what I said tho... that is HIS plan on what HE(and likely his team that put it together) thinks would be best for black people.

Again... he doesn't speak for all of us...

There's nothing stopping any of us from putting together our own plans and presenting them to politicians.. That's our right to do so... Just because he's in a better position to get that access and actually have those conversations and meetings than we do doesnt mean he thinks he speaks for all black folks.. just like it wouldnt mean that YOU OR I would think we speak for all black folks if we had an oportunity to present what WE thought would benefit the black community.

Personally I find it a bit insulting that both parties engage with celebrities for political shit when it comes to the issues our communities face but that's another convo lol.

I'm not even a Cube fan but the knots people are twisting themselves into over this is nuts
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There not anything stopping us from putting the plan together but who has the reach of Ice Cube to get the ear and attention of people in power? That's the difference...and while you and I may know that Ice Cube ain't speaking for all Black folks you cant deny that the majority of non Black public opinion will be "Well if Ice Cube said it it must be what Black people want". That's the danger and where Ice Cube dropped the ball on his end. This convo has been had before and I've said countless times niggas need to know their own limitations. Some people good for being on the front lines and others are good for bank rolling the front lines. Cube stepped into an arena he admittedly isn't well versed in and is now facing legit criticism for his words and actions. And people arent wrong for giving those criticisms
 
ThaManMythLegnd said:
You've been on some bullshit the past year, before...during...and after the primaries. I see through it all, but it's comical how you're spamming this topis attacking anyone not kissing Biden's ass. You're really trying to say Cube is teaming up with Trump and Bannon, man get this nonsense outta here.

What I NEVER see from you and others is any criticism of Biden. Same way there was no criticism towards whoever was the front-runner during the primaries...why is that? We were all calling out Kamala when she was in single digit numbers, but as soon as she got VP, we were told to ignore her record, and just cosing. Neither of this parties are for us, never have bene, never will. We're 13% of the population, so we have to use our leverage or we get nothing in this world. Biden has a lot to answer for, and done none of that yet. And if we even ask for specifics, we get push back form his people, and our own yelling that we just need to sit down and hope that this racist clown will come through

Which is Cube's point. The same point Dr. King had. The same shit Jews do, and no one says shit about it. Hell, if this was some LGBT guy meeting with Trump, no one would say anything. But we can't for some reason. FOH
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This just isn't true. Basically anyone that isnt a white Male that aligns themselves with Trump catches some flack. It's why people keep bringing up "53% of white women.". And you can simply google and see that LGBT people who support Trump catch plenty of flack as well. People arent saying to ignore Kamala record. Anyone who says to ignore it isnt operating from a place of truth. what I have seen people say more of is that people are going far harder on Kamala and Biden than Trump and his ilk and that has some truth to it. Like people want Trump to win again just so they can say "I told you so" while ignoring how their lives will continue to be negatively affected by him and his administration.

It's also false to say Biden/Harris dont address the shit people bring up about their past. Their answers may not be what you want to hear but they do address them when brought up. Meanwhile Trump out here promoting conspiracy theories about attacks on military members and people shouting white power in his honor. If the whole thing is "we have no leverage if Biden gets in the WH" then what the fuck leverage do you think Trump is gonna give?
 
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ALLBUILDINGSMATTER! said:
You literally said you would want the police to shoot your unarmed family member in the leg. This is your dick sucking defense for democrats. You want what Biden said to sound normal. It’s not normal and it’s not ok.
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There's actually a quote feature on this site so don't try to gaslight me into thinking I'm as stupid as you think I am...

SneakDZA said:
...If my unarmed family member or friend was having a psychotic episode I would definitely prefer them to be shot at in the leg area than their central body mass if they gotta get shot at all. Especially if either way whoever shot them is going to just get away with it because that's what they were trained to do.
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I seriously can't tell if you're too stupid to pick up what I'm putting down or if you're just a really low level troll but this is going to be the last time I entertain you on this. Read the whole sentences... not just the random parts that make you go... "gotcha!"

Bitch.
 
BlackRain said:
There not anything stopping us from putting the plan together but who has the reach of Ice Cube to get the ear and attention of people in power? That's the difference...and while you and I may know that Ice Cube ain't speaking for all Black folks you cant deny that the majority of non Black public opinion will be "Well if Ice Cube said it it must be what Black people want". That's the danger and where Ice Cube dropped the ball on his end. This convo has been had before and I've said countless times niggas need to know their own limitations. Some people good for being on the front lines and others are good for bank rolling the front lines. Cube stepped into an arena he admittedly isn't well versed in and is now facing legit criticism for his words and actions. And people arent wrong for giving those criticisms
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I agree with you on this all the way.

Key words here being "legit criticisms"..

he got played in this particular exchange.... but folks calling him maga and coon and all this other shit is what I thought was ridiculous.
 
Inori said:
I agree with you on this all the way.

Key words here being "legit criticisms"..

he got played in this particular exchange.... but folks calling him maga and coon and all this other shit is what I thought was ridiculous.
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Yeah that's too far. I ain't about to toss a damn near 40 year legacy out the window over this...but I also see alot who cant admit he fucked up because it would hurt their "Biden is the devil. Trump is finally listening to us" narrative they're running with
 
SneakDZA said:
Weren't you just mixing it up a page or two ago? Now you wanna take the high road? Nah fuck that. Get Trump to make an account and we can unite against his ass then. But for now... it is what it is.

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I am making a point. This thread has devolved to in-fighting.

Nothing will change the fact Ice Coon is in cahoots with 'Make White America Great Again' Trump.

These clowns in here are too blind or ignorant to see it.

That better for you?
 
BlackRain said:
Yeah that's too far. I ain't about to toss a damn near 40 year legacy out the window over this...but I also see alot who cant admit he fucked up because it would hurt their "Biden is the devil. Trump is finally listening to us" narrative they're running with
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Biden IS the devil though. We can't hate both Trump AND Biden. The point about MLk that goes over people's heads is that people like Nixon, LBJ, JFK all did racist things. Doesn't mean we don't engage with them and just throw our hands up. Neither party does right by us, so make them work for our vote, just like every other group does. Cube didn't fuck up, and if yall don't like him being that guy trying to make move, then ask yourself why no one else is stepping up? That's your answer.
 
Fightbackmode2005 said:
I am making a point. This thread has devolved to in-fighting.

Nothing will change the fact Ice Coon is in cahoots with 'Make White America Great Again' Trump.

These clowns in here are too blind or ignorant to see it.

That better for you?
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Infighting is our jam, though.

Like... you can call Cube a coon and people in here clowns but also call for peace and unity? We can't have it both ways.

I'm pretty sure that no matter how heater the rhetoric in here gets we're all mature enough to know that at the end of the day we mostly want the same things.

Except for the russian bot accounts and undercover crackas.
 
BlackRain said:
This just isn't true. Basically anyone that isnt a white Male that aligns themselves with Trump catches some flack. It's why people keep bringing up "53% of white women.". And you can simply google and see that LGBT people who support Trump catch plenty of flack as well. People arent saying to ignore Kamala record. Anyone who says to ignore it isnt operating from a place of truth. what I have seen people say more of is that people are going far harder on Kamala and Biden than Trump and his ilk and that has some truth to it. Like people want Trump to win again just so they can say "I told you so" while ignoring how their lives will continue to be negatively affected by him and his administration.

It's also false to say Biden/Harris dont address the shit people bring up about their past. Their answers may not be what you want to hear but they do address them when brought up. Meanwhile Trump out here promoting conspiracy theories about attacks on military members and people shouting white power in his honor. If the whole thing is "we have no leverage if Biden gets in the WH" then what the fuck leverage do you think Trump is gonna give?
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In no way, shape, or form are people going harder on Biden, what site are you on? People criticize everyone from Trump to Biden to random people. None of these politicians are our friends, none. To trust any of them is to play the fool. That's the point. So Cube pushing actually plans is a real thing, as opposed to sitting back and nodding at what Biden & Trump say.

And Biden/Harris haven't said anything, unless you mean Kamala saying they can't focus on a black agenda, cause I'm from CA and expect as much from her. Leverage is demanding a comprehensive plan from both. Once Biden is in office he won't give a shit about us at all.
 
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