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Stop being a bootlicker bruh. This is part of the reason nothing ever changes. The Republicans are trash. We all know that. But we can't ignore the bad things about the Dems just because they are slightly better than the Reps. Stop it. If you want to be a diehard Dem, fine, be that, but at least do it in a way that puts pressure on them to actually do things that help people, especially people that look like you. This ain't about fake black empowerment. This is about pushing the people that supposedly represent your interest to actually do that. Like how long you gonna go along shining Democrat shoes before you actually insist they pay you for your efforts?
Nigga nobody is ignoring Democrats. Nobody said all democrats are awesome people.
But what is happening is there is no dialogue at all in here about Republicans. It's either Trump or Democrats. In fact the only time people on this site even talk about democrats is when y'all trying to drag them. Look at Kamala. Barely anything positive gets said about her. It's just a bunch of grown ass men tearing her down but none of y'all niggas that's all in her sit everyday have ever done the same with any Republicans not names Trump.
Y'all keep saying the same shit about holding Democrats accountable and when republicans get brought up it's the same tired as responses of "Oh we already know they are bad" But niggas will pend days going hard at Democrats.
Y'all look stupid because at the end of the day you do not have any end game. What is your end game? To replace Democrats? To remove all the ones you don't like for ones that you do like?
Go through and read these responses. Every nigga in here that has bad shit to say about Democrats has no resolution at all on how to fix shit. All y'all know how to do is botch and complain and well actually shit.
Give me a tangible solution to this problem all of you niggas have with Democrats because in case any of you niggas haven't notices The United States is a Democracy. And in a Democracy we utilize the voting process. You can bitch and complain about how fucked up it is all you want. that's what it is nigga. A Democracy built on voting. So right now the only way to tangibly change anything is to get people in position to do that and the only way to get people in position to do that is by voting.
So what are all of you niggas who don't do shit but try to lecture us on being sleep on The democrats gonna do? You gonna keep gossiping nigga or are you [personally gonna fucking do something?
I find it strange that folks say they arent voting because the Democrats take the black vote for granted... but at the same time.. they call Cube all sorts of coons and sellouts for taking what he thinks would help the black community to both parties to see how they would handle those tangibles people been screaming about this entire election cycle.
Sure.. Trump is a lying sack of shit that cant be trusted... he's also currently the president of the united states unfortunately. I think its a bit of a leap to call him a coon or sellout for having that conversation with the people that are currently in power, along with those who could potentially be in power next year. Now is the time to have those kinds conversations. If not, what's the alternative?
Trump /Republicans cant be trusted... and it speaks volumes that, according to Cube the Democrats told him they would circle back AFTER the election... lol so again.. what are the options here?
If Ice Cube was as smart as people thinks he is he would know that less than 30 days before an election in which Democrats will likely will the Presidency, Win the Senate, and maintain control of the House is a horrible time to expect any type of movement or progress on any fucking initiatives that he's proposing.
Do niggas not know how elections work? Any bill that anybody in congress writes supporting any of Ice Cubes black initiatives between now and January 22, 2021 is DOA in The Senate in which republicans will control until hopefully January when Dems take power.
Are pope not familiar with an October surprise? You know a major bombshell that might drop in October right before the election that may sway voters one way or the other with each candidate? Why the fuck would Ice Cube even release this now? Congress is literally in the middle of a sham ass Supreme Court Justice Confirmation Hearing. Congress can't even get a fucking stimulus bill passed because Mitch McConnell and Republicans are not with that shit but this nigga Ice Cube thinks that an emotional and not well thought out Black America agenda that includes $500B to black people is goin to have any fucking movement in the October before the most important election of our lifetimes?
It was a stupid ass move. Miss me with that hollow ass excuse about Democrats being wrong for saying wait until later. Dumb ass nigga that's literally all they can do. There's only so much Dems can even fucking do right now. All they have is The House. That's not enough to get shit done. They've used their powers in The House to Impeach Trump. It died in The Senate. The House already passed a second Stimulus Bill. It's dying in The Senate.
What exactly did Ice Cube expect doing this? Tell me it's not "A seat at the table" because if you look around that's the only fucking outcome from this and the table this nigga is sitting at is with The Trump Administration.
So fuck Ice Cube and fuck any nigga too dumb to not rad the fucking room.
People ain't even really thinking it through or trying to strategize. We all can agree that we don't believe Trump would do anything for black people. That doesn't mean we shouldn't use his bluster as leverage.
If Cube helps Trump put together a plan for black America, then we should be pointing to Biden and saying "There's Trump's plan. Where's yours? If you want us to vote for you, we need to see it." Hell, even if it's a bluff, we should still be trying to put pressure on Biden to do something.
If what Cube said was true and the Dems told him that they have a plan but they'll reveal it after the election, think about what that means. They are basically telling black people "We know ya'll will vote for us anyways, so just do what we want and we might throw you a bone after you've lost any leverage in determining how big that bone should be." That's just disrespectful, and some of these people are happy to be disrespected.
Let's just be real about shit. Voting isn't even how folks really get shit accomplished in this so called democracy we have.
None of you have ever found it strange that the rich and wealthy black people who always around election time screaming for black people to go vote never go to black people and scream lets start a PAC for a real home grown black candidate?
Money gets shit done in politics not fucking votes but nobody ever really wants to have that conversation.
On more than one occasion here I've posted that study from Princeton or Harvard that proves we don't have a real democracy and a high majority the time politicians vote the way the money that put them into office wants them to vote.
Yet we still here year after fucking year berating our own people to vote for a group people who couldn't give a fuck less about us. Just because they fake like they care and the other group flat out tells us fuck yall.
As always FUCK TRUMP & FUCK BIDEN
My morals and character won't allow me reconcile with actually voting for a evil just because its so called less evil than the other choice that's been forced on me.
Biden released a plan for MINORITIES not for only black people. That is the difference in what I believe most folks is getting at. Black should demand shit only for us. Trump nor Biden is going to do that but I ain't going to be mad at a nigga for asking either of them for that though.
That plan was bullshit. I read it when you posted and we had a lil convo about why I thought it was bullshit.
I somewhat get the anger folks got for Cube right now because truthfully there are some people in this world we as black people should have no words for and Trump is one of them. Personally I don't got no words for Biden either.
My morals and character won't allow me reconcile with actually voting for a evil just because its so called less evil than the other choice that's been forced on me.
It's the Rush Card of political action plans
just for the record and for clarity... Cube released the Contract with Black America back in July/August i believe.......
Kanye always has good points in his interviews, he just has a tendency to say some stupid shit. Funny no one posted that Nick Cannon interview til he hopped back in the news for, guess what... saying some stupid shit.did anyone actually listen to the whole speech kanye made when he was crying like a bitch or just the highlighted points the media presented to turn yall against him?
He did it in response to Joe Biden already releasing his Lift Every Voice Plan.
And to take it a step further Ice Cube, like a lot of niggas on this site have no end game with their plans. he has no vision. Ice Cube is not even a policy maker. He should not be making policy. He's a celebrity with bread that allows him to take these kinds of risk. That does not validate any of his ideas. See West, Kanye Omari from the Chi town where niggas ride looking for bust downs to bust down.
He doesnt speak for all black folks but im not gon shit on him for trying to get some shit done by shopping ideas to both sides.
Leverage???????
My nigga, Trump is about to lose this election. Bigly. Republicans are about to lose The Senate. That's not how leverage works. republicans and Trump are very much on track to lose in less than 3 weeks. There is no leverage arguments to be made.
Joe Biden's plan has been on his website for months. We've posted that shit in multiple threads on this forum. Hell it might even have its own thread. Don't play ignorant like Biden hasn't already laid out a plan.
Again you are not paying attention. Dems are not in power right now. they will be in January once Biden is sworn in and the Dems officially take The Senate. This idea that black people need any fucking assurances 3 weeks before the election is dumb as fuck.
First of all Trump has had 4 years to come up with a plan for Black America. He waited until Ice Cube helped him 3 weeks before his re-election to reveal it???? Really??? This is just like Trump's Healthcare plan that he's been saying he was gonna reveal for the last 4 years. Or Mexico paying for the wall. Or China paying us for trade. It's a fucking farce. Trump can't do shit. he doesn't know how to lead. he never makes deals. he sucks. We're supposed to believe that he has a tangible plan for Black America and we're only now hearing about it through Ice Cube 3 weeks before the election????
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