Trump unveils 'Platinum Plan' for Black Americans...Tags Ice Cube into the ring

[Disanthrope]

Because they are charlatans.
Do you know what the term means?

I never see you in any other threads tho. Only the umar and tariq threads. You're always preoccupied with bashing them but you never post in the racial injustice threads..

 

[Old Man Cain]

Cube is not a coon I don't think Kanye is either. Kanye has bi-polar disorder so I take his comments as grain of salt. Cube on the other hand is/was the speaker of my youth along with himself and others and for him to think or any other these nignogs to think Trump and currrent Republican party is going to give a single group(black) of people 500 billion just because he's a fool and so are these others.

Keep the money give minorities justice and fairness and the money will come from their own works. That's why when I hear these goofy nignogs say I'm not voting its damn near hilarious for them to champion what Cube's doing. Either way Cube still my top 5 goat but I disagree with his move

 

[The Lonious Monk]

This thread is full of niggas who think they're smart but in reality you're just a Republican.


Notice every single talking point being said in this thread against Democrats is a Republican talking point.

Why are you niggas hiding behind a fake ass black empowerment movement? Just come out and admit that you're Republican.

Stop being a bootlicker bruh. This is part of the reason nothing ever changes. The Republicans are trash. We all know that. But we can't ignore the bad things about the Dems just because they are slightly better than the Reps. Stop it. If you want to be a diehard Dem, fine, be that, but at least do it in a way that puts pressure on them to actually do things that help people, especially people that look like you. This ain't about fake black empowerment. This is about pushing the people that supposedly represent your interest to actually do that. Like how long you gonna go along shining Democrat shoes before you actually insist they pay you for your efforts?

 

[Inori]

Cube is not a coon I don't think Kanye is either. Kanye has bi-polar disorder so I take his comments as grain of salt. Cube on the other hand is/was the speaker of my youth along with himself and others and for him to think or any other these nignogs to think Trump and currrent Republican party is going to give a single group(black) of people 500 billion just because he's a fool and so are these others.

Keep the money give minorities justice and fairness and the money will come from their own works. That's why when I hear these goofy nignogs say I'm not voting its damn near hilarious for them to champion what Cube's doing. Either way Cube still my top 5 goat but I disagree with his move

I find it strange that folks say they arent voting because the Democrats take the black vote for granted... but at the same time.. they call Cube all sorts of coons and sellouts for taking what he thinks would help the black community to both parties to see how they would handle those tangibles people been screaming about this entire election cycle.

Sure.. Trump is a lying sack of shit that cant be trusted... he's also currently the president of the united states unfortunately. I think its a bit of a leap to call him a coon or sellout for having that conversation with the people that are currently in power, along with those who could potentially be in power next year. Now is the time to have those kinds conversations. If not, what's the alternative?

Trump /Republicans cant be trusted... and it speaks volumes that, according to Cube the Democrats told him they would circle back AFTER the election... lol so again.. what are the options here?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I find it strange that folks say they arent voting because the Democrats take the black vote for granted... but at the same time.. they call Cube all sorts of coons and sellouts for taking what he thinks would help the black community to both parties to see how they would handle those tangibles people been screaming about this entire election cycle.

Sure.. Trump is a lying sack of shit that cant be trusted... he's also currently the president of the united states unfortunately. I think its a bit of a leap to call him a coon or sellout for having that conversation with the people that are currently in power, along with those who could potentially be in power next year. Now is the time to have those kinds conversations. If not, what's the alternative?

Trump /Republicans cant be trusted... and it speaks volumes that, according to Cube the Democrats told him they would circle back AFTER the election... lol so again.. what are the options here?

People ain't even really thinking it through or trying to strategize. We all can agree that we don't believe Trump would do anything for black people. That doesn't mean we shouldn't use his bluster as leverage. If Cube helps Trump put together a plan for black America, then we should be pointing to Biden and saying "There's Trump's plan. Where's yours? If you want us to vote for you, we need to see it." Hell, even if it's a bluff, we should still be trying to put pressure on Biden to do something.

If what Cube said was true and the Dems told him that they have a plan but they'll reveal it after the election, think about what that means. They are basically telling black people "We know ya'll will vote for us anyways, so just do what we want and we might throw you a bone after you've lost any leverage in determining how big that bone should be." That's just disrespectful, and some of these people are happy to be disrespected.

 

[Inori]

People ain't even really thinking it through or trying to strategize. We all can agree that we don't believe Trump would do anything for black people. That doesn't mean we shouldn't use his bluster as leverage. If Cube helps Trump put together a plan for black America, then we should be pointing to Biden and saying "There's Trump's plan. Where's yours? If you want us to vote for you, we need to see it." Hell, even if it's a bluff, we should still be trying to put pressure on Biden to do something.

If what Cube said was true and the Dems told him that they have a plan but they'll reveal it after the election, think about what that means. They are basically telling black people "We know ya'll will vote for us anyways, so just do what we want and we might throw you a bone after you've lost any leverage in determining how big that bone should be." That's just disrespectful, and some of these people are happy to be disrespected.

I agree about using leverage... but to be fair.. Biden released his plans months ago.. it's just the folks that say he doesnt have a plan didnt bother reading it and just assumed it was bullshit as well so i'm not sure what the play is here at this point

 

[Diabolical_Dos]

Cube is not a coon I don't think Kanye is either. Kanye has bi-polar disorder so I take his comments as grain of salt. Cube on the other hand is/was the speaker of my youth along with himself and others and for him to think or any other these nignogs to think Trump and currrent Republican party is going to give a single group(black) of people 500 billion just because he's a fool and so are these others.

Keep the money give minorities justice and fairness and the money will come from their own works. That's why when I hear these goofy nignogs say I'm not voting its damn near hilarious for them to champion what Cube's doing. Either way Cube still my top 5 goat but I disagree with his move

so og

you saying you can still rock with someone even tho they do a few things you disagree with?

 

[grYmes]

I don’t think Cube a coon at all. It’s just... we’ve seen this before. Prominent black people trying to negotiate and getting a list of promises. Just for nothing to come of it. Seeing that Cube is another one going this route is just disappointing. Cuz he should know better than most that real, tangible changes rarely happen with this shit. Especially since it’s an election year so it’s easy to throw a bunch of numbers and proclamations out there if it sounds good for black voters.

...but fuck Kanye. He’s a coon.

 

[Playmaker88]

Its funny hie nigga be gymnast when someone is darker than the color of oatmeal

 

[Diabolical_Dos]

I find it strange that folks say they arent voting because the Democrats take the black vote for granted... but at the same time.. they call Cube all sorts of coons and sellouts for taking what he thinks would help the black community to both parties to see how they would handle those tangibles people been screaming about this entire election cycle.

Sure.. Trump is a lying sack of shit that cant be trusted... he's also currently the president of the united states unfortunately. I think its a bit of a leap to call him a coon or sellout for having that conversation with the people that are currently in power, along with those who could potentially be in power next year. Now is the time to have those kinds conversations. If not, what's the alternative?

Trump /Republicans cant be trusted... and it speaks volumes that, according to Cube the Democrats told him they would circle back AFTER the election... lol so again.. what are the options here?

exactly.
people react and dont think.

they pile on the person who its cool to pile on yet none of them are saying or doing shit frfr.

this whole shit is a shit show from them fucked up politicians to the dumb ass voters and dont voters.

this all just reeks if stupidity at the base levels.

dont cry about trump once hes there.......dont cry about the people that are there......many people had plenty of opportunity to stop them and choose to ignore it until you had to deal with it.

alot of yall are really comfortable with your lives. dont want to rock the boat ass niggas

 

[Diabolical_Dos]

I agree about using leverage... but to be fair.. Biden released his plans months ago.. it's just the folks that say he doesnt have a plan didnt bother reading it and just assumed it was bullshit as well so i'm not sure what the play is here at this point

why read it when someone will tell you their interpretation of it.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I agree about using leverage... but to be fair.. Biden released his plans months ago.. it's just the folks that say he doesnt have a plan didnt bother reading it and just assumed it was bullshit as well so i'm not sure what the play is here at this point

The only "plan" I've seen from Biden is this:

LIFT EVERY VOICE: THE BIDEN PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICA - Joe Biden for President: Official Campaign Website

Joe Biden knows that African Americans can never have a fair shot at the American Dream so long as entrenched disparities are allowed to quietly chip away at opportunity. He is running for President to rebuild our economy in a way that finally brings everyone along—and that starts by rooting out...

joebiden.com

Look, I don't expect any president to move heaven and earth to help the black community but look at that man. It's all talk and no substance. It acknowledges the problems facing black America, but doesn't actually propose much of anything to specifically help black people. For example, look at this:

• Reserve half of all the new PPP funds for small businesses with 50 employees or less, so the bigger and more well-connected aren’t able to win in a first-come, first-served race. While this will help the vast majority of small businesses, it should also help target more funding to minority-owned businesses, given 98% of all minority-and women-owned businesses have fewer than 50 employees.

You can't tell me you have a plan for Black America and then point out a bunch of things like that.

 

[Old Man Cain]

so og

you saying you can still rock with someone even tho they do a few things you disagree with?

Of course. I got friends in real life that I don't agree with 100% of the time some are all the way liberals and some conservative but If I fuck with you I fuck with you..

I believe Cube is trying to make a deal with a devil and expect a blessing from it.

 

[Diabolical_Dos]

Of course. I got friends in real life that I don't agree with 100% of the time some are all the way liberals and some conservative but If I fuck with you I fuck with you..

I believe Cube is trying to make a deal with a devil and expect a blessing from it.

maybe we both be on some grown ass man shit.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

maybe we both be on some grown ass man shit.

I feel like I have to play sides because everyone wants to oversimplify or misrepresent what the other side says. By and large you and I are on the same side for this issue, but let's not misrepresent what the other side is saying. They aren't saying they don't rock with Cube because they disagree with him on some trivial matters here and there. They are saying that they don't rock with him because they feel like he's taking actions that could be severely detrimental to efforts to uplift the black community. I don't agree with that, but if you're going to say they are wrong, you have to actually argue against that.

 

[Diabolical_Dos]

I feel like I have to play sides because everyone wants to oversimplify or misrepresent what the other side says. By and large you and I are on the same side for this issue, but let's not misrepresent what the other side is saying. They aren't saying they don't rock with Cube because they disagree with him on some trivial matters here and there. They are saying that they don't rock with him because they feel like he's taking actions that could be severely detrimental to efforts to uplift the black community. I don't agree with that, but if you're going to say they are wrong, you have to actually argue against that.

its a whole ton of shit thats detrimental to the black community. on an individual level ....we need to be more responsible before we turn a side eye are cube or kanye or anyone.

i just feel its cool to take bits and pieces of what someone is doing and look at them funny. especially when we are not in a position or have the history of trying to enact change.

 

[Inori]

its a whole ton of shit thats detrimental to the black community. on an individual level ....we need to be more responsible before we turn a side eye are cube or kanye or anyone.

i just feel its cool to take bits and pieces of what someone is doing and look at them funny. especially when we are not in a position or have the history of trying to enact change.

I disagree with anyone comparing Cubes actions to Kanyes as being the same shit.. but that's just how I feel about it. Two different things IMO

Its funny hie nigga be gymnast when someone is darker than the color of oatmeal

Care to expound?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

its a whole ton of shit thats detrimental to the black community. on an individual level ....we need to be more responsible before we turn a side eye are cube or kanye or anyone.

i just feel its cool to take bits and pieces of what someone is doing and look at them funny. especially when we are not in a position or have the history of trying to enact change.

I get you. Look, if Cube could somehow con Trump into doing something good for black people, then it's all good. I support Cube in those efforts and I wouldn't call him a coon.

However, I think the point that his reasonable critics (not the people calling him a coon for the sake of calling him a coon) are saying that his efforts are detrimental to blacks because ultimately Trump isn't going to do anything to help black people but he is using Cube's name as a means to garner support for himself. Again, I don't think anything is that cut and dry, but that's the point they are making, so it's not as simple as them throwing Cube under the bus because they have a minor disagreement with him.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

My Point was at some point a line was drawn in the sand stating that u black and work for Or with Orangina, the black community getting at you

Same should be applied to Cube

 

[Diabolical_Dos]

I get you. Look, if Cube could somehow con Trump into doing something good for black people, then it's all good. I support Cube in those efforts and I wouldn't call him a coon.

However, I think the point that his reasonable critics (not the people calling him a coon for the sake of calling him a coon) are saying that his efforts are detrimental to blacks because ultimately Trump isn't going to do anything to help black people but he is using Cube's name as a means to garner support for himself. Again, I don't think anything is that cut and dry, but that's the point they are making, so it's not as simple as them throwing Cube under the bus because they have a minor disagreement with him.

well until we are in charge.....we have to go to them to try to get shit done.

the way i see it....it takes alot to go to and speak with someone with so much power but hates you and for you to even humble yourself enough to get to them. anything overly aggressive will be stopped.

we have a long game to play. and its gonna take a few personal sacrifices from people and those who do nothing can not judge. whether its for the people or for self and then they help the people......we need help and we can not tell other how to go about it.