Dortmund would be running away in the Bundesliga if they had 1 decent defender
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chabvonga
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. Citeh banned. They need to dock a minimum of 40pts from them in the league. Or send the straight to the championship like they did Juventus in 2006. Aye, news for us Liverpool fans and our foes man utd, they get to be the big club in Manchester once again
Mknight
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English FA falls under UEFA, so the FA has statutes that reprimands clubs for breaking the European overseers rules.
No wonder why most city fans voted for #Brexit
Mknight
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Coming out the wood work now. Juve was match fixing son, same shit Liverpool is low key doing with var.
Anyway welcome, what part of America are you from?
chabvonga
wanderer in the amerikkkan wilderness.
I ain't american son, im an Afrikan living in america just temporarily lol. VAR is stupid, but yeah how citeh has been scamming is on the same level as Juve
Mknight
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Juve was straight up bribing refs and arranging results with other teams.
Man city just cooked the books to build a team of mercenaries, when everyone knows that they can't even fill their stadium.
They need to look into the billion dollar iou that Chelsea has with abramovic as well.
Mknight
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Word you in Texas or the DMV?
There will not be much sympathy for Manchester City in football this morning. They misled UEFA and its Club Financial Control Body.
They inflated figures, deceived over revenue streams, and the size of their punishment, the suspension from European competition, the fine of £25million, is confirmation of the gravity of this offence.
If this case is proven after appeal, City did wrong, that is unarguable. Yet they did wrong in the face of rules that are there to protect a privileged elite; put in place to prevent unexpected journeys to the top of football’s pyramid. You know, the interesting stuff.
It is possible to acknowledge City’s wrongdoing but still hold nothing but contempt for the system that has found them guilty. For the secret briefings, the pressure placed on UEFA to ring-fence their primary competition for the select few.
Financial fair play was corrupted from birth by those at the top, warped into the most naked protectionism. It was supposed to be about debt, but ended up placing limitations on owner investment. A club loaded with debt, like Manchester United, is fully compliant; a club without debt, like City, is not.
Leicester are a much better run club than Manchester United, but United can still sweep up their best players each summer. Harry Maguire last year, in all likelihood James Maddison in a few months’ time.
Why? Financial fair play. That’s how it works. It is intended to cement a handful of elite clubs in place and shut the rest outside, unable to grow, to present a sustained challenged, even if they want to or are successful. Fairness is just the sell. Don’t be fooled. It was never meant to be fair.
Consider the models of City and United, the way those clubs are run, the investment in infrastructure, in the local area, the women’s game, consider the quality of the football, the comparative success recently.
What’s the better football club? The one that faces a two-year ban from Europe, or the one that stands to benefit from their absence?
No wonder David Gill and his allies graft so hard in those corridors of power, no wonder Ed Woodward devotes his time to the executive board of the European Club Association. Ferran Soriano, chief executive officer of Manchester City, thought he was in line for a place within the ECA.
Then there was a little pushback and suddenly he wasn’t, unlike board members at United, Arsenal and Liverpool — the traditional red alliance that controls English football, and holds meetings to which rivals are not invited.
United and Liverpool even got to vet Richard Scudamore’s successor at the Premier League, it is claimed. It seems some clubs really are more equal than others.
City will now take their case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, the first time it is to be heard by a body not linked to UEFA. European football’s rulers brought this case, heard this case, and have now passed sentence.
A cynic would further speculate that the reason the UEFA punishment is so strong — a two-season ban — is to allow wriggle room at the appeal stage. Even if CAS have sympathy for City and halve the sentence, the club is still exiled for a year. Had they received a 12-month ban, it would have left arbiters with a binary choice.
Yet leaving aside the legal process and potential developments there, this remains a hugely damaging punishment for City. If the established elite wanted to ruin them and Sheik Mansour’s project — and be in no doubt that they do — it really could not have worked out better.
The European ban is the gift that keeps on giving for City’s rivals. Without the Champions League revenue stream, to stay compliant with FFP will greatly reduce their transfer budget this summer, at a time when it is clear Guardiola needs to significantly rebuild his squad.
Players such as David Silva are retiring, others are reaching the end of their careers, while expensive recruits, including John Stones, have fallen short of expectations. City need major improvements in central defence, central midfield and more support in the forward line for Sergio Aguero.
The prospect of two years without European football may also impact on the careers of key players such as Raheem Sterling or Kevin De Bruyne, who will be targets for the same major European clubs that have agitated so strongly for City’s punishment. Neat, isn’t it?
Leicester, and Sheffield United, even Wolves, have shown that success is not solely about transfer expenditure, but City’s project requires forward momentum. They do not have a famous name, like Manchester United or Liverpool. A mid-table City could find recruitment as difficult as it was when the project began.
In that way, at least, FFP is working. Indeed, it has worked beautifully for those that devised it, that shaped it, the established elite.
It has achieved its intention, to protect those clubs who see a place at the top table as theirs by right. All those meetings, all those briefings, all of the skulduggery that is perfectly legal, at least it wasn’t in vain.
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They inflated figures, deceived over revenue streams, and the size of their punishment, the suspension from European competition, the fine of £25million, is confirmation of the gravity of this offence.
If this case is proven after appeal, City did wrong, that is unarguable. Yet they did wrong in the face of rules that are there to protect a privileged elite; put in place to prevent unexpected journeys to the top of football’s pyramid. You know, the interesting stuff.
It is possible to acknowledge City’s wrongdoing but still hold nothing but contempt for the system that has found them guilty. For the secret briefings, the pressure placed on UEFA to ring-fence their primary competition for the select few.
Financial fair play was corrupted from birth by those at the top, warped into the most naked protectionism. It was supposed to be about debt, but ended up placing limitations on owner investment. A club loaded with debt, like Manchester United, is fully compliant; a club without debt, like City, is not.
Leicester are a much better run club than Manchester United, but United can still sweep up their best players each summer. Harry Maguire last year, in all likelihood James Maddison in a few months’ time.
Why? Financial fair play. That’s how it works. It is intended to cement a handful of elite clubs in place and shut the rest outside, unable to grow, to present a sustained challenged, even if they want to or are successful. Fairness is just the sell. Don’t be fooled. It was never meant to be fair.
Consider the models of City and United, the way those clubs are run, the investment in infrastructure, in the local area, the women’s game, consider the quality of the football, the comparative success recently.
What’s the better football club? The one that faces a two-year ban from Europe, or the one that stands to benefit from their absence?
No wonder David Gill and his allies graft so hard in those corridors of power, no wonder Ed Woodward devotes his time to the executive board of the European Club Association. Ferran Soriano, chief executive officer of Manchester City, thought he was in line for a place within the ECA.
Then there was a little pushback and suddenly he wasn’t, unlike board members at United, Arsenal and Liverpool — the traditional red alliance that controls English football, and holds meetings to which rivals are not invited.
United and Liverpool even got to vet Richard Scudamore’s successor at the Premier League, it is claimed. It seems some clubs really are more equal than others.
City will now take their case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, the first time it is to be heard by a body not linked to UEFA. European football’s rulers brought this case, heard this case, and have now passed sentence.
A cynic would further speculate that the reason the UEFA punishment is so strong — a two-season ban — is to allow wriggle room at the appeal stage. Even if CAS have sympathy for City and halve the sentence, the club is still exiled for a year. Had they received a 12-month ban, it would have left arbiters with a binary choice.
Yet leaving aside the legal process and potential developments there, this remains a hugely damaging punishment for City. If the established elite wanted to ruin them and Sheik Mansour’s project — and be in no doubt that they do — it really could not have worked out better.
The European ban is the gift that keeps on giving for City’s rivals. Without the Champions League revenue stream, to stay compliant with FFP will greatly reduce their transfer budget this summer, at a time when it is clear Guardiola needs to significantly rebuild his squad.
Players such as David Silva are retiring, others are reaching the end of their careers, while expensive recruits, including John Stones, have fallen short of expectations. City need major improvements in central defence, central midfield and more support in the forward line for Sergio Aguero.
The prospect of two years without European football may also impact on the careers of key players such as Raheem Sterling or Kevin De Bruyne, who will be targets for the same major European clubs that have agitated so strongly for City’s punishment. Neat, isn’t it?
Leicester, and Sheffield United, even Wolves, have shown that success is not solely about transfer expenditure, but City’s project requires forward momentum. They do not have a famous name, like Manchester United or Liverpool. A mid-table City could find recruitment as difficult as it was when the project began.
In that way, at least, FFP is working. Indeed, it has worked beautifully for those that devised it, that shaped it, the established elite.
It has achieved its intention, to protect those clubs who see a place at the top table as theirs by right. All those meetings, all those briefings, all of the skulduggery that is perfectly legal, at least it wasn’t in vain.
MARTIN SAMUEL: Ban is payback by clubs who hate Manchester City
MARTIN SAMUEL - CHIEF SPORTS WRITER: There will not be much sympathy for Manchester City in football. They misled UEFA and its Club Financial Control Body.
raphaelbero1241
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Welcome back KDB
Blue_London
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Been mia from here... Lol @ City though, I cannot seem them missing out on CL they prolly gonna make some calls and get a bigger fine and allowed to play...
Englishdude
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Atleast it gives city 2 years to build a fan base to fill that void of a stadium.
toheeb27
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@GNS is part of the squad now???? I thought it was @dontdiedontkillanyone
Based on how crazy he gets on here sometimes, @GNS Seems like a guy who would rather cut off his junk than root for Chelsea.
Blue_London
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I think he can be tempted
Englishdude
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CeLLar-DooR
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Lol long as he balls out its all good
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