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But skills is a criteria too.

Well it depends how much sales/hits factor in the overall score of it each rapper. It should only have a 10% or less weight. If it's higher it's gonna boost too many new niggas. Like Cole/Kendrick/Drake or Eminem
 
Well it depends how much sales/hits factor in the overall score of it each rapper. It should only have a 10% or less weight. If it's higher it's gonna boost too many new niggas. Like Cole/Kendrick/Drake or Eminem
We gotta brainstorm the formula for sure.
 
 
I think we should make it like we did with ranking the albums. I know it's hard for mfs to do, but yall gotta add some objectivity to these rankings lol


I think the 5 attributes for the criteria should be:

Flow
Wordplay/bars
Impact
Discography
Influence

Impact and influence is basically the same thing
 
So they both left a "Mark"

A small one. And Black Rob had a bigger impact than Big L. Big L was an influential rapper but he did not have a big impact. His legend grew after his death. Black Rob had a timeless hit record at the height of Bad Boys return after Biggies death. Therefor Black Rob left a bigger mark. The average fan can't name one Big L song. They know him as an underground rapper with a crazy flow. Again minimal impact but an influential rapper. Almost everybody knows Black Rob made Whoa or has heard of the song. You associate Black Rob's hit record with Bad Boys comeback after BIG's death.

Rappers like Nelly and Ludacris were both influential and had a big impact. Both rappers carried a whole region with hit records and spawned new styles. Nelly with his country raps had the whole Midwest rocking. Ludacris at one point was the biggest rapper in the south. He had back to back to back hit records and brought a new style. Luda was like the southern version of Busta Rhymes. Also all three of those rappers Nelly, Ludacris, and Busta Rhymes had unique styles, flow, fan bases, and they all had their own record labels built largely off of their success and impact in the game. That's why when I see some of these new rappers on these all time list I don't see how their resumes stack up to some of these guys from the past. A lot of these rappers who people would be quick to call trash or washed today like Luda or Nelly built and entire brand and movement that had longevity and impact. You don't see that a lot these days.




Shit like this is wack to me.



These new guys have not put in nowhere near the work or have had the accolades and success as many of the "average" rappers before them but they will shout into the wind with their cult like following of fans about how much respect and credit they think they deserve. The game ain't the same no more. I hold rappers to a high standard. You gotta come with it to get my respect. I don't fuck with this microwave generation of the culture where we have to judge shit that hasn't even been cooked right. Give me the guys who've put in the work and have shown and proven that they have what it takes.
 
Yea I came close to adding Wale to my 30, but I couldn't. He's top 50 tho.
 
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