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Disanthrope said:
This is wishful thinking

I don't understand how y'all ignore drake's own words

He said he wasn't going further

he sounded tired and defeated at the end

Now he has a good real life reason to not go further

and he never wanted any of this in the first place

Now, I'm not saying he's not making any more songs

He did.
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I dont think so, as someone else said you can take it many different ways. For a guy as narcissistic as Drake and for the claims he made about, I doubt he will go cold turkey and stop here. Sounded like he was alluding to more things when he brought up Dave Free and Whitney.
 
FormerlyAnICposter said:
Yeah I agree.

I thought J.Cole would have been the one to get real aggressive. I thought Kendrick would wait months to respond. I always knew he was capable but I was surprised at how tactical and cunning Kendrick was. He played it beautifully.

And I feel like Euphoria keeps getting better the more times I listen to it.
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Kendrick is surgical and his music has enduring value, cause I feel the same way when I listen to Euphoria. I find another reason to like it every time.
 
FormerlyAnICposter said:
I dont think so, as someone else said you can take it many different ways. For a guy as narcissistic as Drake and for the claims he made about, I doubt he will go cold turkey and stop here. Sounded like he was alluding to more things when he brought up Dave Free and Whitney.
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Nah it’s a wrap everything else that happens from Drake s side would be seen as Super Ugly type desperation

If Drake was a slimy nigga like I am I had dropped photoshopped pics of Dave Free and Whitney And photoshopped a DNA result

But that’s just me lol
 
AP2.5 said:
Family matters is really a good ass song man

I've been running both this and euphoria back to back and they are both fire.
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I like the end of that song, the third part so to speak 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Kendrick just opened his mouth, someone go hand him a Grammy right now
Where is your uncle at? 'Cause I wanna talk to the man of the house
West Coast niggas do fades, right? Come get this ass whoopin', I'm handin' 'em out
You wanna take up for Pharrell? Then come get his legacy out of my house
A cease and desist is for hoes, can't listen to lies that come out of your mouth
You called the Tupac estate and begged 'em to sue me and get that shit down
I'm losin' perspective on beef, Boi-1da send beat and I'll kill you for fun
Your daddy got robbed by Top, you Stunna and Wayne, like father, like son
Anthony set up the plays, Kojo be chargin' you double for nothin'
They shook about what I'ma say, but textin' your phone like, "We already won"
You tell me what I shouldn't say, but fuck it, my nigga, it's already done
We already know it's a twenty-v-one, we already know why you went number one
It's clearly because of The Boy, the honorable thing is to give me the loot
You right about "Fuck the big three," it's only Big D, and there's video proof
Our sons should go play at the park, two lightskin kids, that shit would be cute
Unless you don't want to be seen with anyone that isn't Blacker than you
We get it, we got it
The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice
We get that you like to put gin in your juice
We get that you think that you Bishop in Juice
When you put your hands on your girl, is it self-defense 'cause she bigger than you?
Your back is up against the curb, you diggin' for dirt, should be diggin' for proof
Why did you move to New York? Is it 'cause you livin' that bachelor life?
Proposed in 2015, but don't wanna make her your actual wife
I'm guessin' this wedding ain't happenin', right?
'Cause we know the girls that you actually like
Your darkest secrets are comin' to light
It's all on your face like what happened to Mike
Oh shit, it's all makin' sense, maybe I'm Prince and you actually Mike
Michael was prayin' his features would change so people believe that he's actually white
Top would make you do features for change, get on pop records and rap for the whites
And wait, you say your brother Jermaine, but you wanted him to stay out of the light
Oh shit, just follow me, right? 'Cause nothin' you sayin' could bother me, right?
I get off the plane and nothing has changed, I head to Delilah with all of my ice
Head to Delilah with all of my ice, head to Delilah with all of my ice
This shit gotta be over by now for anyone out here that's calling it, right?
You're dead
You're dead, you're dead
There's nowhere to hide, there's nowhere to hide, you know what I mean
They hired a crisis management team to clean up the fact that you beat on your queen
The picture you painted ain't what it seem, you're dead
 
Nah Son said:
It is but it will always be overshadowed in retrospect by the Not Like Us joint

Crazy how similar the outcome of this battle is to Jay vs Nas
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Sad part is NLU ain't nowhere near as good as Family Matters. Just the funny kid being funny for the class to get the leg up.

Euphoria and Family Matters are the height of the disses followed with Meet The Grahams.
 
obnoxiouslyfresh said:
@Los216 Ebro makes some really good points at 7:43 if you still need some more clarity on the colonizer shit. I think it also hits a little harder considering he ALSO has a white, jewish mommy.

"By the way, what is YOUR sound?"

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7:43 is what I listened and where I stopped lol I’m not listening to these bozos for an hr

But he made the point I made a while back and ppl tried to ridicule me for me when I said

“ what exactly do we know about Toronto s culture from Drake s music”

He ain’t event got the accent lol
Like he hit the scene sound like a southern artist and never stopped co opting

Like what is Toronto s sound musically and with them having the biggest artist in the world to date we don’t know lol
 
obnoxiouslyfresh said:
@Los216 Ebro makes some really good points at 7:43 if you still need some more clarity on the colonizer shit. I think it also hits a little harder considering he ALSO has a white, jewish mommy.

"By the way, what is YOUR sound?"

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First of let me say I understand what Ebro was saying but,


This is just trying to box hip hop in and only make it regional which I only see people doing when they don't like something.

The regional argument in hip hop stopped being valid as the culture got bigger. Before rappers were really moving around and working with different producers at the scale that they do now, the regional argument could be used. Not in 2024.

But now, with how big hip hop is, trying to box hip hop artist into a specific sound is a small minded view.

Not to mention that there are rappers and producers all over that do not sound like the sound that their regions are known for. Also, people always twist the narratives on where people come from or where they grew up to try and make their points.

How many rappers were born in regions and grew up in regions that sound nothing like their sound? Plenty. Same goes for producers.

My belief is that instead of judging a rapper or producer on the classifications on their sound, we should judge their quality and skill level. A great rapper sounds good in any region and can sound good on any style, flow, production. People are trying to make an argument against Drake saying he has no identity and no sound when that's not true. He's from Toronto. What's their sound? Are they not allowed to have their own sound because they aren't in America? Does Drake spending time in Memphis mean that he should have a Memphis sound to his music like 3-6 Mafia? If he lived in Houston is he not allowed to have a Houston sound?

And at the end of the day is he good? Is this rapper or producer that has been in and lived in many regions good at what he does? The answer for Drake is absolutely yes. It's harder to do what Drake does than what rappers who are regional (local) do.

This ain't the 80's or early 90's when the sounds were new. You don't have to grow up in Atlanta to sound like OutKast. Hip hop shouldn't be limited to a few regions and anytime that happens it's usually done to discredit people and not appreciate their talent and skill which Drake has and it's undeniable. So now since people can't deny his talent they will try to discredit him by questioning where he's from or who he is like questioning his Blackness?

You notice that they're questioning his sound and not his skill?

Why?

It's because his skill is undeniable and since people can't deny that they'll look to find ways to discredit him or knock him down.

The last point I'll make is a question.

What's 2Pac's sound?
 
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