What can FBAs learn from the Somalis in MN?

[The Lonious Monk]

And I think this is where czar, black, and I are

I wasn't even trying to imply that she "got what she deserved" or anything like that but it just appears she didn't really try to do much of anything other than ask what she needs to do

I hear you. Like you said, we're all projecting. I'm just giving her the benefit of the doubt that she really was just asking about obtaining financing because that's what she mentioned. I feel like help in that area is information that should be given freely within our community. But if she actually wanted them to "give her the game," I agree with your stance.

 

[AP4.0]

I hear you. Like you said, we're all projecting. I'm just giving her the benefit of the doubt that she really was just asking about obtaining financing because that's what she mentioned. I feel like help in that area is information that should be given freely within our community. But if she actually wanted them to "give her the game," I agree with your stance.

 

[BlackRain]

If you say so bro. She said pretty clearly that she had struggled to get financing and that she specifically asked about getting that and they refused to tell her. If you think something as simple as sharing financing avenues is something that needs to be hidden from other black people, that says a lot about you and why black people as a community never get anywhere.

I ain't on this FBA vs Foreign born black people like others on here, but I do acknowledge the fact that a lot of them don't see us as allies or kin. Those people didn't tell her because they didn't want to help her not that it was some super special information that couldn't be shared. If she was Somali, they would have put her on, the same way Koreans, Ethiopians, Indians, etc... do with their people.

I said nothing or even hinted at nothing close to the bold. It's as simple as if you literally just starting somewhere and expect them in the first few days to just break down the entirety of their business , as what she said she was an intern, then that's just alot to expect in that position. Maybe actually work there for some time, build a relationship with them then get the information you want.

 

[Knock_Twice]

Well, I hate to say it, her video has gone viral.

Folks are online saying whites and blacks (FBA) will be teaming up to get illegal immigrants outta of the country.

The Dems shouldn't, (I advise) run on that platform or trying to make a case for keeping illegals. Many Folks in this country are trying to get these folks out this country.

This scandal hasn't helped, also I just saw Donald Trump release his welfare listing and for many years, FBAs have been linked to being on welfare when it's been mostly immigrants.

Folks are going to town saying that they are eating up all of the resources.

I think the Reps, this will be their talking points to gather votes. Turning folks against immigrants, with the scandals and other stuff, they will lean on this information to try and win.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I said nothing or even hinted at nothing close to the bold. It's as simple as if you literally just starting somewhere and expect them in the first few days to just break down the entirety of their business , as what she said she was an intern, then that's just alot to expect in that position. Maybe actually work there for some time, build a relationship with them then get the information you want.

I've been down this path, and it's fine. I just think ya'll are assuming a lot by saying she expected them to break down the entirety of the business. Where did she claim that's what she did? She specified that getting financing was the issue and that she noticed the Somalis were getting it left and right. Then she said she asked them about it. It's possible that she was asking them to break down the business as you're suggesting. But to me, the most logical assumption to make based on everything she said was that she was asking them how they were managing to get financing for their businesses. They didn't have to open up their books and show her the secrets to their business to give her pointers or help on finding financing.

 

[BlackRain]

I've been down this path, and it's fine. I just think ya'll are assuming a lot by saying she expected them to break down the entirety of the business. Where did she claim that's what she did? She specified that getting financing was the issue and that she noticed the Somalis were getting it left and right. Then she said she asked them about it. It's possible that she was asking them to break down the business as you're suggesting. But to me, the most logical assumption to make based on everything she said was that she was asking them how they were managing to get financing for their businesses. They didn't have to open up their books and show her the secrets to their business to give her pointers or help on finding financing.

And that's information you gain over time from working there. Not just coming in and thinking you'll get all that day 1 or 2 on an intern level. That's the building relationships part which she seemed to either skip or leave out of her story.

 

[Knock_Twice]

I thought interns are supposed to learn from the companies...at least that's what I was told. If you have an internship, I thought you're supposed to learn how and know everything about the company.

Maybe they do it differently nowadays.

 

[AP4.0]

Learning over time, yes

Within the first 2 pay periods, no

 

[Knock_Twice]

I disagree with that notion. Interns usually go into the sector/field that they are already familiar with or want to explore. Waiting to ask questions and wanting to learn is not (to me) being an intern

 

[The Lonious Monk]

And that's information you gain over time from working there. Not just coming in and thinking you'll get all that day 1 or 2 on an intern level. That's the building relationships part which she seemed to either skip or leave out of her story.

And again, I disagree. Any black person should be able to ask any other black person about banks that are fair to black people. Hence the part of my earlier comment that you bolded and claimed you did not say but are now saying again. We know black people face unique challenges. If we are a community, then we should be freely giving others help overcoming those challenges. One black person shouldn't have to snuggle up to another black person to get some basic information like which bank is a good option for financing.

 

[AP4.0]

ok

 

[Knock_Twice]

And again, I disagree. Any black person should be able to ask any other black person about banks that are fair to black people. Hence the part of my earlier comment that you bolded and claimed you did not say but are now saying again. We know black people face unique challenges. If we are a community, then we should be freely giving others help overcoming those challenges. On black person shouldn't have to snuggle up to another black person to get some basic information like which bank is a good option for financing.

Gotta wait until you get 2 checks to ask questions if you wanna start your own or know anything about getting started.

This was said by a black man by the way, but he's on here yelling for folks to be unified.

Inconsistent 2026

 

[AP4.0]

whew chile

 

[Knock_Twice]

Never thought I'd live to see the day where black folks (and 1 white person) would be upset with black people trying to obtain information from other black people to help themselves.

Never thought I would see the day where black folks would be trying to defend a person's action given no valid reasons to wanting to be successful.

Smh.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Gotta wait until you get 2 checks to ask questions if you wanna start your own or know anything about getting started.

This was said by a black man by the way, but he's on here yelling for folks to be unified.

Inconsistent 2026

To be fair. I get @AP4.0 point about her potentially being a rival business. So she probably did need to tread with care when asking how she could take steps to start up what could be a competitor.

I'm just saying in principle, black people should be freely giving each other basic information for overcoming systemic racism.

 

[BlackRain]

And again, I disagree. Any black person should be able to ask any other black person about banks that are fair to black people. Hence the part of my earlier comment that you bolded and claimed you did not say but are now saying again. We know black people face unique challenges. If we are a community, then we should be freely giving others help overcoming those challenges. One black person shouldn't have to snuggle up to another black person to get some basic information like which bank is a good option for financing.

How is saying you should attempt to build a relationship with the people you're seeking advice from a bad thing? That actually strengthens things and builds the community you're talking about to know you got folks you can fall back on for assistance if you need it.

 

[Knock_Twice]

To be fair. I get @AP4.0 point about her potentially being a rival business. So she probably did need to tread with care when asking how she could take steps to start up what could be a competitor.

I'm just saying in principle, black people should be freely giving each other basic information for overcoming systemic racism.

Fair,

When sharing information especially to a fellow black person who I can help, i will.

If they can do it better than me, great, now we have 2 great black businesses, if they can't, I can still hold my head high knowing that I helped out a fellow black person pursue a goal/dream.

There can be more than 2 black businesses on the same block, Target and Walmart all copy each other.

It's no knock on him or you, I'm trolling a bit, but I just don't agree with the whole keeping things away from other black folks, I understand how foreign blacks view black folks, cool.

Just me, rival or not, just give out the information, if your product is good, you shouldn't be worried. Provide good service and good product, folks will still support.

 

[Knock_Twice]

How is saying you should attempt to build a relationship with the people you're seeking advice from a bad thing? That actually strengthens things to know you got folks you can fall back on for assistance if you need it.

If you hired a black person, and on day one, let's make it more fresh, during the interviewing process, they told you that they wanted to open an ice cream shop, they found an abandon building and they asked you, how could they obtain funding, by your logic, you would want them to be friends with you? before you give them some options?

I'll tell you what I would do, try going to X. bank, make sure you have your credit score, have you gotten clearance on the building etc and tell the person, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask me or call me...and then I will hire the man

That's what I'll do and all this would be done in the interviewing process. You build relationships like that...imo

 

[The Lonious Monk]

How is saying you should attempt to build a relationship with the people you're seeking advice from a bad thing? That actually strengthens things to know you got folks you can fall back on for assistance if you need it.

No one said you shouldn't build a relationship with people. I'm saying you shouldn't need that relationship to ask a question about financers that are friendly to black people. If we're community, that should be information that's freely shared with everyone within the community. I don't know what's hard to understand about this.

In MD, we have issues with appraisers that were lowballing values for black owned homes. When we sold our house we got pointers on how to avoid that. Nobody had to build a relationship with me for me to share that info. Whenever, a black person told me they were trying to sell a house, I just put them on.

 

[Freeman]

Wait so now bruh wants to work and share with foreign blacks? I can't keep up at this point.