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He did that or he ain’t did that?

  • He did that shhhhh

  • Nah he ain’t do that shh

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Lab Baby said:
I'm concerned about young girls everywhere watching this stuff, hearing comments like this that incentivizes this behavior, and follows in their footsteps. We just got off calling Drake a pedo. Millie Bobby Brown and Billie Eillish were in junior high when this was happening, and we were sweeping shit under the rug then. Imagine if a tape came out of someone their age getting the brakes beat off of them. We joked about Raz B in the 2000s... over 15 years later we're questioning the validity of Lil Rod's testimony. I'm not even gonna speak on Afrika Bambatta... Hassan Campbell moves like a rape victim, I don't need a videotape to know something happened to him. This should have been a non issue after Ike Turner. I'm not a woman, I'm not gonna speak on solutions for women on this issue. But as men, when are we gonna hold ourselves accountable for validating that system of abuse with indifference and apathy? How are we gonna teach young boys to not be the next Drake when we can't even properly place accountability on the niggas that groomed him? This ain't about celebrities, fuck celebrities. This is about the responsibility we abandoned a long time ago because we were able to get away with it.
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Have you ever considered your sympathy for this shit influences people to join?

If people are unable to discern when they are exploiting themselves and putting themselves at the mercy of a system and they have examples of people being rewarded for their gullibility with sympathy and attention, then they are just going to keep doing it.

They take your sympathy and attention and turn it into clicks, views, thinkpieces and money.

There ain't that many people in the entertainment industry.

Give your sympathy and attention and time to regular everyday people that struggle with everyday life.

Black folks waste too much of their goodwill towards celebrity news and gossip.

You want your young Black girls and boys to avoid being a Drake or a Cassie, teach them to hate celebrities.
 
Lab Baby said:
I'm concerned about young girls everywhere watching this stuff, hearing comments like this that incentivizes this behavior, and follows in their footsteps. We just got off calling Drake a pedo. Millie Bobby Brown and Billie Eillish were in junior high when this was happening, and we were sweeping shit under the rug then. Imagine if a tape came out of someone their age getting the brakes beat off of them. We joked about Raz B in the 2000s... over 15 years later we're questioning the validity of Lil Rod's testimony. I'm not even gonna speak on Afrika Bambatta... Hassan Campbell moves like a rape victim, I don't need a videotape to know something happened to him. This should have been a non issue after Ike Turner. I'm not a woman, I'm not gonna speak on solutions for women on this issue. But as men, when are we gonna hold ourselves accountable for validating that system of abuse with indifference and apathy? How are we gonna teach young boys to not be the next Drake when we can't even properly place accountability on the niggas that groomed him? This ain't about celebrities, fuck celebrities. This is about the responsibility we abandoned a long time ago because we were able to get away with it.
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See this is the bullshit. You're chasing dude around the thread for victim blaming and not being accountable for what he's saying online and in the same breath you're spreading hearsay and speaking on rumors as if their facts about other men on the internet.

Just saying anything. Both of you need to pack it up.
 
ZMaKEa said:
I apologize for absolutely nothing lol.

Y'all just be in your feelings about celebrities and I don't. Y'all wince and tense at the sight of someone suffering and I don't. Y'all think about morality in a binary of right and wrong and I obviously don't.

I clearly said Diddy did everything she said he did and she deserves her severance package since he never made an honest woman out of the girl and ruined her career. I am not gonna sit here and be like, "Oh my god, poor Cassie." . I don't give a fuck about Cassie or Diddy. They are just a useful example systematic.

What you mean in the military you know what the chances are?

There's plenty of people that joined the military and never been into a war zone and never seen someone die. Had a great time.

Just like there's plenty of people in the entertainment industry that never been abused and never been put pressured. Had a great time.

But I am sure everyone knows that amongst the military there are people that commit war crimes and abuses just like in the entertainment industry it's full of glorified prostitutes and studio pimps. The casting couch been real since the beginning of the studio systems in the 50s.

People still fucking join the military industrial complex and the entertainment industry. The upside seems more likely than the downside, the downside catastrophic and the upside is life changing.

People like to believe that people are more ignorant and gullible than they actually because they like to think that people make choices in accordance of a moral code or philosophy instead of short-sighted self-interest and convenient moral blindness.

It's the mindset that knowledge and awareness cures social ills and people just don't know anybody.

The truth is people are over-confident in that it won't happen them. And if it does happen to them they can handle it. And if they can't handle it, the ends justify the means, so let's roll dice.

Hence women still wanna be Marylin Monroe. Hence men still wanna be Michael Jackson. The wheels turn and turn while people dump out their sympathy to people that are complicit in their own exploitation.

Your sympathy and attention for these people turn the wheel, if nobody gave a fuck about these celebrities and their sob stories, they wouldn't do half the shit. These people want you to feel bad for them when the shit goes bad.

Motherfuckers acting like Cassie is a woman with a mortgages and kids with a fucked up husband when that wasn't the case. No different than people acting like Michael Jackson was one of the kids of the 1930's working in the factory when they say he had no childhood.

Y'all equate celebrity sob stories to everyday life and the constraints that comes with it and it's not.
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People know the risks and choose to take that risk. Doesn’t mean it’s right when the risk materializes. People shouldn’t abandon their dreams because it’s some fucked up people out there. Those fucked up people need to be held accountable and ostracized.

And I’m a realist so I know where you’re coming from, but you seem to be justifying it and that’s where you wrong.
 
TheNightKing said:
People know the risks and choose to take that risk. Doesn’t mean it’s right when the risk materializes. People shouldn’t abandon their dreams because it’s some fucked up people out there. Those fucked up people need to be held accountable and ostracized.

And I’m a realist so I know where you’re coming from, but you seem to be justifying it and that’s where you wrong.
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Justifying it?

Y'all just in your feeling because I am not like "Poor Cassie."

Let's put it this way.

CTE isn't a risk of playing football, it's a feature. It's a part of the game. That's why you wear a helmet.

Nightclub to casting couch to celebrity pipeline has sexual exploitation. It's a feature.

It has nothing to do with individual people and their actions. It's has to do with the nature of Hollywood and entertainment industry.

Lol, like the entertainment industry and pornography industry is the same thing, but pornographers are more honest about the purposes of the camera.

Lol, you know how you get rid of CTE in football, by not watching football.

You know you get rid of Diddys and Weinsteins...by not paying attention to celebrity.

People really underestimate how their sympathy drives exploitation lol.
 
TTBF said:
See this is the bullshit. You're chasing dude around the thread for victim blaming and not being accountable for what he's saying online and in the same breath you're spreading hearsay and speaking on rumors as if their facts about other men on the internet.

Just saying anything. Both of you need to pack it up.
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The Cassie thing was heresay too. And I'm not saying go after those ppl... I'm saying consider those things as precautions for the next generation so we can avoid them in the future. @ZMaKEa made a good point... these convos need to be applied to real life situations. The Raz B and Afrika Bambatta allegations may be just that, but there were ppl across the world that have been tried, convicted, sentenced, and released just to do the same thing again to multiple ppl. These are a series of habitual behaviors pointing to symptoms of mental illnesses we don't talk about for some reason. The celebrity aspect is just to bring these conversations to a larger platform, at least for me. Me and @ZMaKEa are having a dope civil conversation. He's got a lot of good points. Either let us cook or ask for a copy of the Stevie J tape and keep it moving.
 
TTBF said:
Lmao. You obviously don't have hands or common sense.

And mfs act like puff is a little nigga. He got size and length to do damage. PAUSE.
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That he would be unhinged enough to retaliate with force and levels of domestic abuse that would be equivalent to him forfeiting his life via charges which would be brought up promptly is a bit of a stretch, but I understand.
grYmes said:
My guy it’s more than likely she’s tried this before & paid for it. Even if she never did the fuck does it matter? Diddy vs her is like Tyson Fury vs a featherweight 9 times outta 10 the outcome ain’t good. Quit the victim blaming.

The woman’s lucky she made it out.
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It doesn't matter and I'm not blaming her.
 
Lab Baby said:
The Cassie thing was heresay too. And I'm not saying go after those ppl... I'm saying consider those things as precautions for the next generation so we can avoid them in the future. @ZMaKEa made a good point... these convos need to be applied to real life situations. The Raz B and Afrika Bambatta allegations may be just that, but there were ppl across the world that have been tried, convicted, sentenced, and released just to do the same thing again to multiple ppl. These are a series of habitual behaviors pointing to symptoms of mental illnesses we don't talk about for some reason. The celebrity aspect is just to bring these conversations to a larger platform, at least for me. Me and @ZMaKEa are having a dope civil conversation. He's got a lot of good points. Either let us cook or ask for a copy of the Stevie J tape and keep it moving.
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Just saying anything on the internet with no accountability lol. You 2 are one in the same. Enjoy the rest of your convo.
 
Reading comments like the ones posted here and across the net

Mirrors white folks who always, rationalize and justify why a black man, regardless of the situation or how miniscule the crime
needed to be shot 9-10 by police officers

Even if he wasn't committing a crime at the time, look at what he did 12-15 years ago
No matter what ...in their eyes....the nigga had it coming to him

It's the very same energy when it comes to the abuse & exploitation of woman, with a lot of you
Some how the bitch brought it on herself.
 
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