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TheNightKing said:
Were the reasons people cited significant enough to allow Trump to become president? No election happens in a vacuum. If she were against a better republican candidate then maybe their reasons would have mattered more. But in the 2024 election, they shouldn’t have.

Not denouncing the genocide? The opposition welcomed it and escalated it.

Cheney campaigning for her? Look at the ranks of people that campaigned for Trump and those he put in his cabinet.

The proposals she made? They didn’t just vanish, she still maintained those.

So given that, what made people vote for the clear threat? Or not vote allowing that threat to take power?

That’s what I mean by dumb shit. You see the threat and say “well I don’t like x, y, z” when the alternative is miles worse.
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Ya'll sound like a broken record.

No, nothing she did should have mattered. Trump shouldn't have won. We all agree on that. The clowns that voted the other way aren't in this discussion.

If you were a Muslim during the election and the only thing you cared about was the genocide then Kamala saying she was going to do the same thing as Biden was going to lose that vote. That's just how voters in this country are right or wrong. We have to learn from that.

Freeman said:
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Cool, now highlight the part where I suggested any of those gripes were reason not to vote for her. Or we can act like me saying she didn't come off around black people as natural as someone like Queen Latifah was what swayed people over to Trump's side. lol
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Ya'll sound like a broken record.

No, nothing she did should have mattered. Trump shouldn't have won. We all agree on that. The clowns that voted the other way aren't in this discussion.

If you were a Muslim during the election and the only thing you cared about was the genocide then Kamala saying she was going to do the same thing as Biden was going to lose that vote. That's just how voters in this country are right or wrong. We have to learn from that.



Cool, now highlight the part where I suggested any of those gripes were reason not to vote for her. Or we can act like me saying she didn't come off around black people as natural as someone like Queen Latifah was what swayed people over to Trump's side. lol
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Again it wasn't the right time for that rhetoric when a white supremacist donald trump was on the other side of the aisle. It didn't help matters.

You not gonna pretend you weren't doing what you were doing when it mattered tho.

Fomf.
 
Freeman said:
Again it wasn't the right time for that rhetoric when a white supremacist donald trump was on the other side of the aisle. It didn't help matters.

You not gonna pretend you weren't doing what you were doing when it mattered tho.

Fomf.
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Nigga please. People expressed why they didn't vote for Kamala and none of them said "Because I saw The Lonious Monk say he didn't like her as a candidate."

How ya'll got more smoke for a dude on the internet who has 0 influence politically than you do for the candidate that botched the election. That makes no sense.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
Nigga please. People expressed why they didn't vote for Kamala and none of them said "Because I saw The Lonious Monk say he didn't like her as a candidate."

How ya'll got more smoke for a dude on the internet who has 0 influence politically than you do for the candidate that botched the election. That makes no sense.
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It's not about you it's about the rhetoric you and others were spreading online. You just happen to be here pretending you weren't on that type of time and it's annoying me so you getting belt.

The Lonious Monk said:
We seriously have to find a way to split this country in two. Reasonable people can't go back to living alongside MAGA. It's not going to work. On top of that, I don't want to have to bear the international burden for everything our piece of shit president has done. Let a new nation full of people that put him in power and supported everything he did do that.
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People that were carrying on like you in 2024 should have to go live with them.
 
Freeman said:
It's not about you it's about the rhetoric you and others were spreading online. You just happen to be here pretending you weren't on that type of time and it's annoying me so you getting belt.



People that were carrying on like you in 2024 should have to go live with them.
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You posted some screencaps of me having nuanced conversation with people who were already solidly against Trump and you're trying to paint it like I was running around the country saying Kamala wasn't fit for office. My stance was always that I didn't like Kamala, but anybody was better than Trump, and this is the only place I even have political conversations. So unless you can point to someone on here who said they didn't vote for Kamala because of my rhetoric, politely STFU.
 
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TheNightKing said:
Were the reasons people cited significant enough to allow Trump to become president? No election happens in a vacuum. If she were against a better republican candidate then maybe their reasons would have mattered more. But in the 2024 election, they shouldn’t have.

Not denouncing the genocide? The opposition welcomed it and escalated it.

Cheney campaigning for her? Look at the ranks of people that campaigned for Trump and those he put in his cabinet.

The proposals she made? They didn’t just vanish, she still maintained those.

So given that, what made people vote for the clear threat? Or not vote allowing that threat to take power?

That’s what I mean by dumb shit. You see the threat and say “well I don’t like x, y, z” when the alternative is miles worse.
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You're looking at it thru the lens of "lesser evil". It's a tougher case to make to convince a voter to overlook their deal breakers bc the other guy is worse. U still have to convince them to support u in spite of the deal breaker u are consistently showing u don't care about. Some voters did do that, just not enough of them.
 
The Lonious Monk said:
You posted some screencaps of me having nuanced conversation with people who were already solidly against Trump and you're trying to paint it like I was running around the country saying Kamala wasn't fit for office. My stance was always that I didn't like Kamala, but anybody was better than Trump, and this is the only place I even have political conversations. So unless you can point to someone on here who said they didn't vote for Kamala because of my rhetoric, politely STFU.
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Again it wasn't necessary and didn't help matters. What are you not understanding?

Elzo69Renaissance said:
One of those instances where the “ well actually “
“ too smart for their own good niggas” was unnecessary

Like I kept telling niggas I don’t care bout no campaigns or u convincing me of shit I see Trump running I’m voting for the other person

That simple
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ChicagoFigure said:
You're looking at it thru the lens of "lesser evil". It's a tougher case to make to convince a voter to overlook their deal breakers bc the other guy is worse. U still have to convince them to support u in spite of the deal breaker u are consistently showing u don't care about. Some voters did do that, just not enough of them.
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Where’s the logic behind I won’t vote for person x for this deal breaker but person y not only has that deal breaker but will pursue a much worse version of that deal breaker? And if I don’t vote person y wins?
 
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