COMMUNITY United States Politics Thread: Trump's Second Term

[Knock_Twice]

Gutting of DEI didn't cause hundreds of thousands of black ppl to lose their jobs, downsizing and cutting in general did simply due to black folks being overrepresented in the federal sector. Also when the economy is declining blacks usually tend to be hit hardest regardless of who's in office. As for redistricting, both sides are definitely the same.

White people bad, ok cool. Care to not ignore the shortcomings of the Dem party?

That's the game, the dems play, they use FBAs pain and struggle to benefit everybody else (other groups) Who do you think brought all those Venezuela's gangs into the black community in Chicago? Those folks were put up in housing, food stamps, etc etc, while overlooking the black folks who are from the area.

The Dems did this shit. Dropping these folks off in black communities because they (the dems) don't want them in their neighborhood and around their kids.

You didn't hear shit about that.

That's the fuck shit there. Who do you think voted reparations down in California, it wasn't the Rep, The fucking Dems...but they want the black vote (FBAS)

Who else talk down on reparations, That Wes Moore dude, aint he a dem.... Byron Donald (A tether)

Karan Bass talking bout she has money for immigrants, Shit like that... The somalis running a scheme, getting handouts like crazy.

All under the Dems.

But They want (FBAs) to vote...see...the "other groups" they thrive off that shit when the dems are in office, because they get all types of kick backs, while black folks get told no on reparations and other shit...

Fuck Both parties

Malcolm has always been right

 

[Knock_Twice]

Why after all these Ws that Dems delivered in the last 60+ years are the systemic issues still prevalent in black communities even tho black voter turnout has been increasing and Dems have had a stranglehold representing many of these areas?

Good luck getting a solid answer. That's why I'm glad folks (Black folks) are sitting they asses on the couch. Fuck'em

 

[TheNightKing]

Yes democrats have pulled bullshit in the past, but you can’t tell me that republicans have had our back as much or more than the democrats in the last 60 years.

If we put up policies for and against black people from the past 60 years, democrats would overwhelmingly be on the positive side of that comparison.

 

[BlackRain]

Gutting of DEI didn't cause hundreds of thousands of black ppl to lose their jobs, downsizing and cutting in general did simply due to black folks being overrepresented in the federal sector. Also when the economy is declining blacks usually tend to be hit hardest regardless of who's in office. As for redistricting, both sides are definitely the same.

White people bad, ok cool. Care to not ignore the shortcomings of the Dem party?

So the gutting didn't cause the job loss...but the downsizing did and that a declining economy hits Black folks worse. You're saying the same shit while also still not acknowledging that you're shielded from that total effects of that decline. Gotcha.

I said theirs multiple factors at play so theirs no ignoring of the shortcomings of the Dem party. I said specific to the point I raised is race and how that factors in. But in you trying to be snarky you proved my point that you trying to be dismissive with "white folks bad" is exactly the type of comment you can afford to make because...that shield protects you from some of the fallout. Especially when you got an administration openly advocating for the "oppressed white man by woke policies" fantasy that you happen to fit the demographic for. Something that you can't seem to criticize because you see both sides as the same regardless of policy and rhetoric being used. So it comes off as a refusal to condemn their policies and rhetoric because it would force you to admit the flaw in your logic.

 

[Knock_Twice]

Yes democrats have pulled bullshit in the past, but you can’t tell me that republicans have had our back as much or more than the democrats in the last 60 years.

If we put up policies for and against black people from the past 60 years, democrats would overwhelmingly be on the positive side of that comparison.

I tell you what, is there any policy that the Republican has created over the last 60 years that comes close to the "Crime Bill" that destroyed the black community? Any policy.

 

[TheNightKing]

Why after all these Ws that Dems delivered in the last 60+ years are the systemic issues still prevalent in black communities even tho black voter turnout has been increasing and Dems have had a stranglehold representing many of these areas?

What you fail to see are the systemic issues prevalent before they stepped in.

If it weren’t for democrats, we would have had at least another 20-30 years of Jim Crow. And all of the other advancements would have been set back by a proportional amount of time.

So while y’all like to shit on democrats, they’ve been the only ones that have had real power to do major legislation to help black people. That you can’t debate.

 

[Knock_Twice]

My thing is, if white folks (both whites on each side) won't give FBAS reparations, black folks, how in the world does one want to think that these white folks (who are white on both sides) want to give black folks anything?

You do know these white folks Dems and Reps, attend the same church, they both want to uphold white supremacy.

Neither talks about taking it down.

 

[ChicagoFigure]

So the gutting didn't cause the job loss...but the downsizing did and that a declining economy hits Black folks worse. You're saying the same shit while also still not acknowledging that you're shielded from that total effects of that decline. Gotcha.

No I'm saying that economic downturns hit blacks hardest regardless of who's in office.

I said theirs multiple factors at play so theirs no ignoring of the shortcomings of the Dem party. I said specific to the point I raised is race and how that factors in. But in you trying to be snarky you proved my point that you trying to be dismissive with "white folks bad" is exactly the type of comment you can afford to make because...that shield protects you from some of the fallout.

U said multiple factors but only mentioned the most convenient which ignores the whole both sides point.

Especially when you got an administration openly advocating for the "oppressed white man by woke policies" fantasy that you happen to fit the demographic for. Something that you can't seem to criticize because you see both sides as the same regardless of policy and rhetoric being used. So it comes off as a refusal to condemn their policies and rhetoric because it would force you to admit the flaw in your logic.

It's crazy how u can see how the GOP panders to poor whites while fucking them over ("they got what they voted for") but can't see when the Dems do it.

 

[BlackRain]

What you fail to see are the systemic issues prevalent before they stepped in.

If it weren’t for democrats, we would have had at least another 20-30 years of Jim Crow. And all of the other advancements would have been set back by a proportional amount of time.

So while y’all like to shit on democrats, they’ve been the only ones that have had real power to do major legislation to help black people. That you can’t debate.

That and the basic foundation for these discussions is the racism this country was built and still thrives on. So a continued denial and/or minimizing of that will never line up with the view your average Black person has. If as a white person that can't even seemingly be acknowledged then, yeah that both sides shit would make sense. The moment you acknowledge how racism affected and continues to affect it...that shit falls flat

 

[Knock_Twice]

What you fail to see are the systemic issues prevalent before they stepped in.

If it weren’t for democrats, we would have had at least another 20-30 years of Jim Crow. And all of the other advancements would have been set back by a proportional amount of time.

So while y’all like to shit on democrats, they’ve been the only ones that have had real power to do major legislation to help black people. That you can’t debate.

@ChicagoFigure

Don't listen to this bullshit.

Do this, Take away black folks rioting, and tearing shit up in the streets.

@ChicagoFigure

What White politician that was on the Dems side wanted to end Jim Crow? Take away the black folks threatening kids, teens, businesses, boycotts and all that shit and name a white politician, man or woman that woke up and said "I feel like ending Jim Crow

Go


Let me let you know something, keep this in your back pocket @ChicagoFigure No White man or White Female in office has ever gave Black People (FBAs) anything, let alone a party.

Black folks has always had to fight to get everything we've gotten now. Black folks will to continue to fight to get what we want.

Dems did not end Jim Crow, They were "FORCED" to do it. IF Black folks don't tear shit up. Jim Crow will be still going on

 

[ChicagoFigure]

What you fail to see are the systemic issues prevalent before they stepped in.

If it weren’t for democrats, we would have had at least another 20-30 years of Jim Crow. And all of the other advancements would have been set back by a proportional amount of time.

So while y’all like to shit on democrats, they’ve been the only ones that have had real power to do major legislation to help black people. That you can’t debate.

They don't do anything for anybody if there isn't a way to exploit for their own benefit.

U still didn't answer the question.

 

[Knock_Twice]

What you fail to see are the systemic issues prevalent before they stepped in.

If it weren’t for democrats, we would have had at least another 20-30 years of Jim Crow. And all of the other advancements would have been set back by a proportional amount of time.

So while y’all like to shit on democrats, they’ve been the only ones that have had real power to do major legislation to help black people. That you can’t debate.

@ChicagoFigure

List the major legislation that helped black people in the last 60 plus years? Go

Did the Crime Bill help? but list all the other shit that helped black folks and list the ones that the republicans laid out over the last 60 years...

 

[TheNightKing]

I tell you what, is there any policy that the Republican has created over the last 60 years that comes close to the "Crime Bill" that destroyed the black community? Any policy.

Name me something since then that comes close to what Trump is doing today.

Either way, did Obama not get the Fair Sentencing Act passed to correct some of those mistakes?

Did Biden not introduce the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act only for republicans to kill it in the Senate?

Did both not have a strong civil rights division that prosecuted unfair police practices that Trump gutted when he came into office?

You still going to be bringing that Crime Bill up when almost every Democrat from that time is no longer in politics? When Republicans in office today would pass it again with no fucks given?

 

[Knock_Twice]

They don't do anything for anybody if there isn't a way to exploit for their own benefit.

U still didn't answer the question.

And he's not going to answer the question because he can't.

When niggas can't answer direct questions, they standing on sand

 

[ChicagoFigure]

That and the basic foundation for these discussions is the racism this country was built and still thrives on. So a continued denial and/or minimizing of that will never line up with the view your average Black person has. If as a white person that can't even seemingly be acknowledged then, yeah that both sides shit would make sense. The moment you acknowledge how racism affected and continues to affect it...that shit falls flat

So the only factor you're willing to acknowledge is white people?

 

[Knock_Twice]

Name me something since then that comes close to what Trump is doing today.

Either way, did Obama not get the Fair Sentencing Act passed to correct some of those mistakes?

Did Biden not introduce the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act only for republicans to kill it in the Senate?

Did both not have a strong civil rights division that prosecuted unfair police practices that Trump gutted when he came into office?

You still going to be bringing that Crime Bill up when almost every Democrat from that time is no longer in politics? When Republicans in office today would pass it again with no fucks given?

Let's do it like this then....

What has Trump done to "Black Folks" that over ranks the Crime Bill, that locked thousands of brothers and sisters up.

 

[TheNightKing]

They don't do anything for anybody if there isn't a way to exploit for their own benefit.

U still didn't answer the question.

The question you asked is too nuanced. Have things been introduced and killed by republicans? Hell yeah.

Have things gotten better since the 60’s? Of course.

Are things perfect? Hell no.

You act like democrats are Kings that can impose their will without checks and balances.

 

[Knock_Twice]

Name me something since then that comes close to what Trump is doing today.

Either way, did Obama not get the Fair Sentencing Act passed to correct some of those mistakes?

Did both not have a strong civil rights division that prosecuted unfair police practices that Trump gutted when he came into office?

Did both not have a strong civil rights division that prosecuted unfair police practices that Trump gutted when he came into office?

You still going to be bringing that Crime Bill up when almost every Democrat from that time is no longer in politics? When Republicans in office today would pass it again with no fucks given?

Did both not have a strong civil rights division that prosecuted unfair police practices that Trump gutted when he came into office?

Who did they prosecute? What police agency or officer

Did both not have a strong civil rights division that prosecuted unfair police practices that Trump gutted when he came into office?

Who did they prosecute under this act since it's been introduced?

 

[Knock_Twice]

Name me something since then that comes close to what Trump is doing today.

Either way, did Obama not get the Fair Sentencing Act passed to correct some of those mistakes?

Did Biden not introduce the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act only for republicans to kill it in the Senate?

Did both not have a strong civil rights division that prosecuted unfair police practices that Trump gutted when he came into office?

You still going to be bringing that Crime Bill up when almost every Democrat from that time is no longer in politics? When Republicans in office today would pass it again with no fucks given?

Crime Bill was created by the Dems and that destroyed the Black family... You niggas elected the very person who created the shit as President.

I don't give a shit who is in office, we are comparing the fuck shit that the Dems did to Black people and what Trump has done to black folks and that Crime Bill will never be trump'd

 

[Knock_Twice]

The question you asked is too nuanced. Have things been introduced and killed by republicans? Hell yeah.

Have things gotten better since the 60’s? Of course.

Are things perfect? Hell no.

You act like democrats are Kings that can impose their will without checks and balances.

When the Dems have control of DC, they don't do shit. They could have been fixed black folks issues in America, they choose not to do so, because they TOO wanna hold up White Supermacy.

Neither party wants to end White Supremacy and it's sad to see how you are blinded by this.

You talk about Trump but Biden mentor or some shit was a KKK member.

White Supremacy, neither party wants to end it...

That's why mfers sit out or making one crash out...because they use the Black Vote (FBA vote) to help other groups. Niggas done woke up to the wild ass game that's been played on Black folks for the last 60 years and I'm so fucking proud.

I'm so glad that FBAs majority are off this bullshit and letting folks crash the fuck out