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Bruh, I just showed you the numbers. Almost 80% of black men and over 90% of black women voted against Trump. I don't know what kinda bullshit you're on, but we weren't the problem here. That said, I think all the FBA/ADOS people that tried to paint the picture that Harris wasn't any better than Trump are idiots, and I've said as much. I think the black people in Flint that were poisoned by lack of regulation and voted for Trump who promised to kill regulations are idiots. Guess what, those people didn't impact the regulation. The groups who had 5-10% shifts did. That's just a fact, so let's not push the lie that everyone failed the same. It's not true.

There is no bullshit. Numbers show he did gain votes among Black men same as he did with latino men. Yes the vast majority still voted against him, but he did gain numbers, again I'll use the word specifically, among younger Black men. Which is another demographic of its own. It's just another micro level breakdown of the numbers.

And i never said everyone failed the same. In fact that's exactlt why I think your pov of "any group that he gained votes with can't complain" is faulty. Because it ignores that very fact you stated. Everyone didn't fail the same.
 
There is no bullshit. Numbers show he did gain votes among Black men same as he did with latino men. Yes the vast majority still voted against him, but he did gain numbers, again I'll use the word specifically, among younger Black men. Which is another demographic of its own. It's just another micro level breakdown of the numbers.

And i never said everyone failed the same. In fact that's exactlt why I think your pov of "any group that he gained votes with can't complain" is faulty. Because it ignores that very fact you stated. Everyone didn't fail the same.

Again, you're comparing a 1-2% gain overall in polls that typically have a ~1% error to a ~10% gain and are then trying to act like I should treat those cases the same.

lol I'm not sure why you're acting like I didn't specify Hispanic people in my original post. You're the one that opened it up to other groups. At the end of the day, Trump ran on deporting Hispanic people and Hispanic people significantly increased their support for him. They don't need to be mad at Trump for doing what he promised. They need to be mad at the people in their own group that heard what he promised and chose to vote for him. Same goes with the Muslims/Arabs. They didn't like how Biden handled the Gaza situation. That's fair. However, when Trump comes along and promises to handle it even worse, and those Muslims/Arabs decide to either vote for him or not vote, then they gotta hold whatever L comes with his win.

If the FBA/ADoS people chose to trash the Dems in some kind of misguided attempt to make them do right and that somehow contributed to Trump winning, then they have to accept blame for him trying to stomp out DEI, reparations, and anything else that might help black people.

Decisions have consequences. We're always going to be going through this shit until people realize that fact.
 
Again, you're comparing a 1-2% gain overall in polls that typically have a ~1% error to a ~10% gain and are then trying to act like I should treat those cases the same.

lol I'm not sure why you're acting like I didn't specify Hispanic people in my original post. You're the one that opened it up to other groups. At the end of the day, Trump ran on deporting Hispanic people and Hispanic people significantly increased their support for him. They don't need to be mad at Trump for doing what he promised. They need to be mad at the people in their own group that heard what he promised and chose to vote for him. Same goes with the Muslims/Arabs. They didn't like how Biden handled the Gaza situation. That's fair. However, when Trump comes along and promises to handle it even worse, and those Muslims/Arabs decide to either vote for him or not vote, then they gotta hold whatever L comes with his win.

If the FBA/ADoS people chose to trash the Dems in some kind of misguided attempt to make them do right and that somehow contributed to Trump winning, then they have to accept blame for him trying to stomp out DEI, reparations, and anything else that might help black people.

Decisions have consequences. We're always going to be going through this shit until people realize that fact.

Well it got opened up to other groups based on the stipulation you laid out. Unless you only want that to apply to 1 group then when you say what you did it's only fair to ask if that would be something to apply evenly across the board.

Again I'm not saying to treat the cases the same in relation to the numbers. I'm saying that if your base point is any group that Trump saw gains with means the individuals within it forfeits their right to complain about him then that leaves nearly nobody left. And that just doesn't seem logical to say an entire group forfeits something they didn't all agree to. To say some random latino in NY can't complain became some other latino in Florida voted for trump just doesn't make sense.
 
Well it got opened up to other groups based on the stipulation you laid out. Unless you only want that to apply to 1 group then when you say what you did it's only fair to ask if that would be something to apply evenly across the board.

Again I'm not saying to treat the cases the same in relation to the numbers. I'm saying that if your base point is any group that Trump saw gains with means the individuals within it forfeits their right to complain about him then that leaves nearly nobody left. And that just doesn't seem logical to say an entire group forfeits something they didn't all agree to. To say some random latino in NY can't complain became some other latino in Florida voted for trump just doesn't make sense.

Ok, but you acknowledge that the stipulation doesn't apply the same to all groups, so there's no reason I should have to treat all groups the same. There's really nothing else to say about this. Wherever a latino is in this country, that latino should build with other latinos and get them to see that voting for someone like Trump is bad. Whining now won't help anything. The damage has been done.
 
Ok, but you acknowledge that the stipulation doesn't apply the same to all groups, so there's no reason I should have to treat all groups the same. There's really nothing else to say about this. Wherever a latino is in this country, that latino should build with other latinos and get them to see that voting for someone like Trump is bad. Whining now won't help anything. The damage has been done.

That's where we differ if we're using the standard you set. If it applies to one then it applies to all who fit that criteria of being part of a group where trump gained votes. I dont think it should apply at all...but based on your own words it should apply to basically everyone.
 
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