is that what you consider a great song writer??
everybody gotta know the words....
while I understand the appeal of everybody
sometimes it's just fans of the culture who know every word...
i'll use juicy as an example...
people legit get mad when someone who claims they know rap does'nt know every word to juicy....
shit was such a well written song, and every word was so meaning ful....it's almost engraved into your brain..."classic"
I threw beans on my list... cuz aside from being my favorite...
songs like feel it in the air, look at me now, nothing like it.....again....every word matters...you can read the words on a piece of paper, and hear no music, and know you're reading something special...
" I'm ten steps ahead of niggas, that shit scary
sometimes I feel ahead of myself
I hear this voice in the back of my mind
like "Mac maintain, just grind, dog, better yourself"
So what I do?, I take heed and pick up the pace
can't explain it when I pick up my son & look at my face
I'm like a black rose growin' in the concrete crack in the pavement
there that voice go again "Mac practice for greatness,
get paid for them immaculate statements"
Keep thinkin of them hotlines, like a physic, I can't explain it
There's no pen when I write it, there's nothing like it.."
@Duwop
Yes! My definition of a great songwriter is the ability to write a song that is easy to remember that everybody can sing along to.
Here are some examples of what I consider Top Tier/A-List songwriting;
I Need Love - LL Cool J
Top Billin - Audio Two
It Takes Two - Rob Base & DJ EZ Rock
Nuthin But A G Thing - Dre & Snoop
Baby Got Back - Sir Mix A Lot
Dear Mama - 2Pac
Juicy - BIG
Hard knock Life - Jay Z
In Da Club - 50 Cent
^^^ If you notice, those lyrics are pretty simple and easy to digest.
Now what I consider a great lyricist and/or lyricism is a different story;
I Go To Work - Kool Moe Dee
Let The Rhythm Hit Em - Eric B & Rakim
Purple - Nas
UNIverse at War - The Roots
Rainy Days - Raekwon & Ghostface
Triumph - Wu Tang Clan
Winter Warz - Wu Tang feat Cappadonna
Buckingham Palace - Canibus
Everything Is Everything - Lauryn Hill
As you can see, the songs that I consider "great songwriting" are simple and easy to remember. The songs that I consider "great lyricism" have complex lyrics that are more difficult to remember.
I think Jay Z is the perfect balance between a great songwriter and a lyricist. He can get lyrical when he wants to, but he can also dumb it down so you can sing along at the nightclub.
2Pac = The GOAT Hip Hop songwriter
Nas = The GOAT Hip Hop lyricist