Tipping At A Restaurant

Knock_Twice said:
If we took you and DU's logic, everybody that's working should expect a tip for their service, but they don't because they have chosen jobs that pays them a livable wage
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naw....i never said everyone should expect a tip...

but i'll tell you this....if customers tipped 15-20% of their purchases at best buy.....i would still be working there.
 
Duwop said:
naw....i never said everyone should expect a tip...

but i'll tell you this....if customers tipped 15-20% of their purchases at best buy.....i would still be working there.
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Why should a person tip 15-20% of their purchase? What would be the reasoning?
 
Duwop said:
naw....i never said everyone should expect a tip...

but i'll tell you this....if customers tipped 15-20% of their purchases at best buy.....i would still be working there.
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I worked there too, first on the sales floor then as a car audio installer.
 
Duwop said:
naw....i never said everyone should expect a tip...

but i'll tell you this....if customers tipped 15-20% of their purchases at best buy.....i would still be working there.
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I think KC asked, if you were offered 16 dollars an hour as a waiter, should the customer tip and why?
 
konceptjones said:
The average tipped employee in this state makes between $17 and $19 per hour.
If you were to pay them that hourly, or even $20/hr, how does that equate to less money???

The average tipped employee in Maryland makes between $15.36 on the low end and $20/hr if they're killin' it.
Again... If you pay them that as their hourly rate, how does that equate to less money???

It doesn't. What it does is moves their earnings back to where it's supposed to be: Paid by their employer, not the consumers.
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again...at best buy i made 15.50

which is a livable wage...for all intents and purposes... now if every sale i completed, the customer gave me 15-20% as a tip......i would 100% still be there...

even if the job was paying $5.00

i was doing anywhere from $5k - 10k in sales a day........even if i got stiffed by a few folks i would still be working there for $5 an hour if i knew people were going to tip after every sale. the upside is just too high.....iver personally seen people slip servers 50 and 100 bills outside of the tip on the table....

we were down the street from the BSO...on those symphony or opera nights....them old folks loved giving big tips....,,them kids culd have been making 20 an hour and working those kinda events still paid more...

whenever we had street festivals outside...workers would be lined up to work them shits....everybody was getting way more in tips...

the thing is, you can give someone a set wage... but you can't predict tips...and tips can often be way more than any set wage, and that's the allure....sure every night might not be a crazy night...which why a good wage is important. but the places i worked..even the ones with good wages...the allure or the attraction to the position was always the tips
 
Knock_Twice said:
Why should a person tip 15-20% of their purchase? What would be the reasoning?
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i never said they should, i said if they did. i had a few folks slip me a few dollars....

mainly because i was that good, and they recognized that.... now if every customer was like that......i'd still be there
 
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Knock_Twice said:
Again, you shifting the narrative, or trying to.

The owner pays the worker, Not me.

Using your logic, I shouldn't shop at Wal-Mart, Target, etc. We all should be tipping the cashier?

Those workers chose to work at those places, Wal-Mart, Target, they are getting the minimum wage. "They are not greedy"

Waiters, are expecting to be paid by the customer instead of the person that they are working for. That's not how life works killa.

If we took you and DU's logic, everybody that's working should expect a tip for their service, but they don't because they have chosen jobs that pays them a livable wage
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You're not even responding to what im saying. You're responding to a scenario you've created in your head. My logic/post only stated if your idea behind not tipping is to somehow think you're getting over on the owner you're not because they already got your money when you pay for your meal. All the other shit is stuff you are literally making up. I even said people are free to not tip all they want. But they aren't accomplishing the goal they think
 
Knock_Twice said:
When you installed CD decks for folks, were you expecting tips?
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prolly not, but i'll let him speak for himself...

but if he wsa in a market where the folks did tip, even when they didn't have to.... he prolly stayed longer than he thought he would just off of that fact
 
Knock_Twice said:
I think KC asked, if you were offered 16 dollars an hour as a waiter, should the customer tip and why?
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the same reason everybody tips... for service...

if i was a waiter for 16 and no one tipped, i wouldn't stay as a waiter....

but if i was getting tips... i definitely stick around
 
there have 100% on many occasions where the servers and bartenders made more than me on tips and i was the restaurant manager
 
Knock_Twice said:
I think you're just chiming in to be chiming in. You're fussing with yourself at this point.

Owners of any establishment should pay their workers a living wage instead of relying on the public to do it. That's the meat of the discussion.
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Yes they should. But your logic of not tipping because "it's a choice to work there and the owner should pay more" doesn't hold up.
 
konceptjones said:
The average tipped employee in this state makes between $17 and $19 per hour.
If you were to pay them that hourly, or even $20/hr, how does that equate to less money???

The average tipped employee in Maryland makes between $15.36 on the low end and $20/hr if they're killin' it.
Again... If you pay them that as their hourly rate, how does that equate to less money???

It doesn't. What it does is moves their earnings back to where it's supposed to be: Paid by their employer, not the consumers.
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@Duwop this is what i was getting at by saying most would choose the consistent 2 week check over the up and down nature of relying on tips. If the owners are actually paying living wages then most would take that option 1st
 
BlackRain said:
Yes they should. But your logic of not tipping because "it's a choice to work there and the owner should pay more" doesn't hold up.
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Let me ask you this:

Do you think owners should pay the waiters a livable wage? yes or no?

Edit, you stated, that they should in the last post. Good, you agree with me and KC.

That's all we are saying bud.

By the owners not paying the waiters a livable wage, that's why "tipping" is encourage more in the restaurant setting than any where else.

If owners paid waiters a livable wage (like other owners/establishments do), do you think that society should tip waiters?
 
BlackRain said:
@Duwop this is what i was getting at by saying most would choose the consistent 2 week check over the up and down nature of relying on tips. If the owners are actually paying living wages then most would take that option 1st
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If we removed tips all together, alot of those folks might still choose other jobs despite making close to $20

Shit I was tryna get just 6% of my sales at best buy.

15-20% I woulda been employee of the year
 
Duwop said:
the same reason everybody tips... for service...

if i was a waiter for 16 and no one tipped, i wouldn't stay as a waiter....

but if i was getting tips... i definitely stick around
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That's your job lol. You signed up to do those duties, whether it's cutting grass, getting drinks, cleaning out gutters, You are providing a service.

You are getting paid at your rate you signed up for

Again, most jobs provide a service and don't get tips.
 
Duwop said:
did i tip the chick for putting our tables together? i can't remeber.....i prolly did, but i don't wanna start capping like fat joe
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Brother

I've legit tried to forget about that period in my life and most of the stuff that came with it

As far as I'm concerned, I met you and your lovely wife, had a great time and we went our separate ways

🤷🏾‍♂️
 
Duwop said:
If we removed tips all together, alot of those folks might still choose other jobs despite making close to $20

Shit I was tryna get just 6% of my sales at best buy.

15-20% I woulda been employee of the year
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Who??? What idiot is going to forego a solid, steady paycheck to getting tipped for potentially less money???

I was the best floor salesman my Best Buy location had in the home/car audio department and that was without commission. Some folks just do the job as best as they could whether they're getting tips or commission or not; I was one of them.
 
Man look, y'all know what it is.

Tip then people's and stop being dick heads. I gotta go do some actual parenting.. I'll son y'all tomorrow
 
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