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He doesn’t have a household name like Larry Hoover, Jeff Fort or other infamous leaders of Chicago gangs.

Lawrence “Big Law” Loggins kept a low profile — no mentions in the newspaper and no arrests since he was released from prison in 2009.

But he was the head of the Black Disciples, one of Chicago’s most notorious gangs, police say. And he was trying to consolidate power before he was assassinated Wednesday night, according to law-enforcement sources.

Now the Chicago Police Department is bracing for a potential bloodbath on the South Side in retaliation for Loggins’ murder, officials said Friday. Anthony Guglielmi, chief spokesman for the department, said investigators will try to prevent those revenge killings.

Message boards on the Internet were buzzing Friday about the possible motive for the killing. Rapper Lil Durk tweeted out “RIP Big Law.”

Loggins, 46, was shot in the head at 9:08 p.m. Wednesday as he stood near a Nissan Rogue in the 7100 block of South Union Avenue, police said. He was found face-down on the driver’s seat of the SUV.

A man wounded in the shooting told police the assailants ran through an empty lot and fled in a gray Infiniti sedan.

Loggins, who also used the last name Lee, went to prison for a 1989 gang-related murder in Lowe Park on the South Side, records show. He was released in 2009, according to the Illinois Department of Corrections. Unlike most gang members, he doesn’t even have an arrest photo in the police department’s computer database.

Tio Hardiman, former director of the anti-violence group CeaseFire Illinois, said Loggins approached him after he got out of prison. Hardiman, now president of Violence Interrupters Inc., said Loggins became a “violence interrupter.”

“Lawrence interrupted at least 20 conflicts that could have turned deadly” while he was with CeaseFire, Hardiman said. “Lawrence had another side — he was a peacemaker.”

But law-enforcement sources said Loggins was trying to consolidate power over the Black Disciples in the Englewood, Gresham and Grand Crossing police districts on the South Side. He wanted to return a corporate governance structure to the street gang, they said.

From the 1970s through the mid-2000s, the gang’s leaders had issued orders to lower-level members through a rigid hierarchy.

Gang experts have estimated that 15,000 people were members of the Black Disciples during that period. Low-level members who ignored orders were beaten or killed and were required to pay a “street tax” from the proceeds of their drug deals and other crimes.

Today, independent factions of the Black Disciples operate on the South Side and the younger generation of members has bristled at the idea of losing their autonomy, sources said.

On Wednesday, Loggins called junior members of the gang into a meeting and “chewed them out,” a source said. Some police officials believe he was killed as a result of that meeting.

The struggle for control over the Black Disciples has been bloody over the past year with other members of the gang’s “old guard” also being killed, sources said.

Loggins’ 29-year-old son, Lawrence “Lil’ Law” Lee, is a leader of the Lamron faction of the Black Disciples, according to the police. He’s serving a 15-year prison term for attempted murder.

The Lamron faction’s gang territory runs along Normal Avenue from 59th to 67th Streets in Englewood. Lamron is Normal spelled backwards.

The rapper Chief Keef, who’s associated with the Black Disciples, has popularized the Lamron faction by mentioning it in his music.

The Black Disciples were founded in the 1960s under the leadership of David Barksdale. Jerome “Shorty” Freeman was crowned the king of the Black Disciples in 1974 after Barksdale’s death.

Freeman went to prison in 1990 on a drug conviction and Marvel Thompson became the de facto leader of the Black Disciples on the streets until the FBI arrested him in a sweeping drug conspiracy case in 2004.

The feds said Thompson ran a politically connected, hierarchical and sophisticated operation. His drug workers would tune in to a Christian radio frequency that Thompson pirated, according to the FBI. He used the radio frequency to warn his workers about police activity. Thompson raked in millions of dollars through mortgage-fraud schemes, as well as drug dealing, according to the feds.

Under Thompson, the gang had connections in the business and political worlds. One of his top lieutenants, Donnell Jehan, even dated a Chicago alderman, Arenda Troutman, who later went to prison for corruption.

Thompson and his lieutenants went to prison in the federal case in 2005.

That same year, Freeman got out of prison. He claimed he no longer was involved in the gang, though the police didn’t believe it. Freeman died of natural causes in 2012.
 
Man these young niggas like this wild wild west shit

but to keep it a buck

its the OG's fault...they was out being reckless in the early 80's and early 90's and left these lil niggas with no guidance...

you cant just expect these guys to say "yes sir" after they been off the porch on they own for 2 decades

this lawless, no honor shit is the norm for them.
 
I'm not saying it is this easy but when people say these young boys need guidance then you try and give em some. They do things like this
 
It's either it be a revenge bloodbath and order is restored or the OG's gon have to avoid getting their heads knocked off and leave these lil young savages alone.

Gangs are dumb but eh
 
Sounds like a classic case of too many chiefs and not enough indians. If the violence in Chicago really is that bad I've always wondered how those street dudes are able to keep the money coming through. Contrary to popular belief, nobody wants their block hot like that. Crime is often more profitable the more peaceful it is. Structuring it with the right terms could prove more beneficial for everybody.
 
Sounds like a classic case of too many chiefs and not enough indians. If the violence in Chicago really is that bad I've always wondered how those street dudes are able to keep the money coming through. Contrary to popular belief, nobody wants their block hot like that. Crime is often more profitable the more peaceful it is. Structuring it with the right terms could prove more beneficial for everybody.
man ..

these young niggas are just like trump....they thrive in chaos
it keeps the bitchassness hidden. firing a gun is never the first thing to do.....but these niggas are clueless..

but them old niggas are kinda to blame
 
@deadeye

this is the very thread you was insisting i should make a few weeks ago.

how the old heads failed the hood.



There was a dude that used to post on the IC who knew a lot about Chicago street life.



Forgot his s/n, but I hope that's not the dude who got killed.



The age and description kinda match up a little bit.



Nvm, that's not him.



I think he moved out West a few years back.......unless he came back home.



Wish dude was here to give some insight into this.
 
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Sounds like a classic case of too many chiefs and not enough indians. If the violence in Chicago really is that bad I've always wondered how those street dudes are able to keep the money coming through. Contrary to popular belief, nobody wants their block hot like that. Crime is often more profitable the more peaceful it is. Structuring it with the right terms could prove more beneficial for everybody.

Co sign

It’s crazy cause as much as these dudes glorify the Mafia you would think they would emulate more than just the “enforcer” or “boss” aspect

The structure is one of the reasons they did(and still do) thrive

ORGANIZED Crime
 
There was a dude that used to post on the IC who knew a lot about Chicago street life.



Forgot his s/n, but I hope that's not the dude who got killed.



The age and description kinda match up a little bit.



Nvm, that's not him.



I think he moved out West a few years back.......unless he came back home.



Wish dude was here to give some insight into this.

King hassan but he also went to school with jesus chirst
 
King hassan but he also went to school with jesus chirst
i remember dude...didnt know he was in shit like that...or just dont remember

too bad the ic is down...i would head over there to check it the history
 
and niggas is loyal to this gang shit?

if niggas aint afraid to die...they just like the taliban.....no way to stop them.

i once said we have to get rid of a whole generation and start again......
i hope this aint it.
 
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