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How to Get Someone to Let Their Guard Down

Popularized by animal behaviorist Karen Pryor in the 1990s, clicker training is a highly effective positive reinforcement tool for animals. But can it work on people, too? Turns out, clicker training is actually based on psychological principles first explored in humans. "We took those concepts and adapted them for use with animals," says Ken Ramirez, CEO of Karen Pryor Clicker Training. "So there is no question that they can be used with people." There's no magic in the clicking sound itself though, Ramirez notes. You can "use a wink, a nod, or just about anything the learner can easily perceive" to reinforce behavior. (And if you're human, those things will likely work better than actual clicking.)

Research suggests he's on to something. "There's definitely a technique that can change our own behavior and the behaviors of others," says Alan Kazdin, a Yale psychology professor who teaches a course on how to change human behavior. "And it's systematic, and it builds habits, and the research shows that it changes the brain." Indeed, Long's tactic is perhaps unknowingly based on operant conditioning, which essentially says that if the consequences of an action are bad, we probably won't repeat it; if they're good, we will.

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Here's how Kazdin says you can apply it in conversation: Pave the way for an intimate interaction by modifying your tone of voice or modeling vulnerable behavior. This is called the antecedent. Don't demand to know why people feel a certain way. Don't pry. Just start talking. Ask gentle questions.

As the conversation unfolds, reinforce their emotive statements with affirmations like nodding, leaning in, interested facial expressions, agreeing, and asking questions. This human version of clicking is called crafting. Giving particular attention to someone's I-statements, like "I feel," "I want" and "I believe," will increase their likelihood of recurring.

For Long, a perfect interaction involves many different emotions, like happiness, sadness, and sympathy. So he tries to respond to the conversation's emotions as much as its content. Conversation crafting isn't rocket science, but it's nevertheless under-taught and under-used. Lots of people "never [learned] in school to listen and respond," Long explains.

After a while, the theory goes, others' openness will persist even once you slow down or stop deliberately reinforcing it. Eventually, people will feel comfortable sharing their deepest facts and feelings with you.

Conditioning works because it's subtle and supportive. Too often, Long has observed, we try to "punish people into compliance, instead of clicking them into it." We try to force them open. But Kazdin's research repeatedly shows that strategic reinforcement works better.

Even conditioning done right, however, is not always beneficial. "It is not necessarily desirable, or good, for many people to open up at all," Kazdin says. Modern psychology suggests that "dungeon digging," as it's called, can actually make people feel worse; sometimes deep-seated emotions are best left deep. "The cathartic view has its value … But not for everyone."


Moreover, if your aim is authentic intimacy, conditioning people to spill their guts is insufficient. Even Long, who dreams of crowdfunding a commune, concedes that clicker training can fall short. "Quite a lot of people consider me to be a valued friend without me having the same sense of having my needs met," he says. Quick conditioning may, at times, short-circuit reciprocal relationships.
 
I do this all the time called actually communicating with said person I don't need a behaviorist for that lol. I have no desire to manipulate anyone but instead want them to genuinely be ok. Whether asking how their day is or if they are ok is simply a part of that. I always try to gage a conversation by how someones feeling and with regards to whatever topic it is I proceed.
 
hmmmm

i would say charm vs manipulation

intimacy.... should not be in this type discussion.

intimacy is already after they allowed the defensed to drop.

charm or manipulation is what is needed to bring those walls down.

i love to get into someones head...because once you have the head, the body will follow. once in rhe head, you are usually there for good or a very ling time. too many people try to go after the body to get to the bead.

that's the wrong approach but another discussion.

but anyway...learning how to ask indirect question is an art I mastered. I can get my answer without you knowing I asked you a specific question.

it's truly amazing.

its all apart of charm
 
What say you about internet convo's? I can understand tone of voice, body language etc in person, but can the same manipulation happen via the net.

With just words and sentences more than likely filled with grammatical errors? lol
 
What say you about internet convo's? I can understand tone of voice, body language etc in person, but can the same manipulation happen via the net.

With just words and sentences more than likely filled with grammatical errors? lol
u gots a problem with errors ma?
 
What say you about internet convo's? I can understand tone of voice, body language etc in person, but can the same manipulation happen via the net.

With just words and sentences more than likely filled with grammatical errors? lol
I'd like to think talking on the phone at least would be better if two people are unable to meet at the moment. It's almost impossible to tell a tone from just words cause they could have the blankest face of all time lol.
 
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What say you about internet convo's? I can understand tone of voice, body language etc in person, but can the same manipulation happen via the net.

With just words and sentences more than likely filled with grammatical errors? lol
Then again remember how she who shall not be named saga ended?
 
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