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The United States Capitol is under siege by Trump Supporters

Inori said:
If Mitch doesnt bring it up for a vote, since he's still the Senate majority leader for a short time left now, it's dead in the water isnt it? What else can be done By Dems right now if it isnt brought up for a vote?
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dems plop a bill down in a hostile senate and go home citing “its the best we can do". no pleading with the public, no wheeling or dealing. its very pathetic.

dems are lazy and lack tact and aggression.

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Race Jones said:
dems plop a bill down in a hostile senate and go home citing “its the best we can do". no pleading with the public, no wheeling or dealing. its very pathetic.

dems are lazy and lack tact and aggression.

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What exactly is pleading with the public gonna do again if they dont currently have the numbers?

I get frustrated with the Dems being pussy as well but Republicans have shown time and time again aint no wheeling or dealing with them.

Republicans gotta be overwhelmed and outnumbered so they cant hold the progress of these bills hostage. Dems gotta be more agressive and when the time comes that they actually get power... they gotta fuckin use it rather than pussyfootin around trying not to offend the other side like they typically do
 
Inori said:
What exactly is pleading with the public gonna do again if they dont currently have the numbers?

I get frustrated with the Dems being pussy as well but Republicans have shown time and time again aint no wheeling or dealing with them.

Republicans gotta be overwhelmed and outnumbered so they cant hold the progress of these bills hostage. Dems gotta be more agressive and when the time comes that they actually get power... they gotta fuckin use it rather than pussyfootin around trying not to offend the other side like they typically do
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ok
 
DOS_patos said:
to get rid of the wealth gap........someone needs to give something up.

that aint gonna happen. or maybe i should say i dont see it happening.

would anty of yall give away 25% of your check every two weeks or monthly or how ever yall get paid....for the rest of your life...to the less fortunate?

quite a few of yall making nice money
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well I mean niggas pay child support. I wouldn’t have an issue if everybody did it and it was like a tax. Better society=better life
 
Race Jones said:
i disagree. trump very well would have won again if covid didnt happen. covid was the great equalizer.
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That's true. He probly woulda repeated the same way which is losing the popular vote winning electoral college.

US trends blue. The more ppl that vote, more than likely will result in dems win. That's why they be pulling stunts like repackaging George Wallace and Pat Buchanan and hitler bullshit cuz white ppl default is racism. They cant win on principle cuz they refuse to put up good platforms anymore, they can't win on numbers cuz they refuse to court the middle....all they got left is violence to get heard.
 
Los216 said:
No it's not defensive but the majority of Black people do not participate in our Democratic process. Collectively we are not well versed politically. I'm not talking about small pockets of us. I'm talking about us as a whole.

I mean, how many times on this site alone do you see niggas complaining about voting or representation or how none of this shit is for us anyway. That whole mentality is what leads to the majority of us feeling left out politically and it makes our commentary on the subject seem very all or nothing or aggressive or defensive.
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I understand your point
The Lonious Monk said:
You still thinking to much in terms of trying to eliminate the wealth gap. It will always be there and it will always sound bad, but again it has never been this bad. It's only this bad because of policies. If those policies are reversed and some programs are implemented to build wealth for lower classes, you could close that gap. The rich will still be rich, but the poor will be less poor.

I think one think you're not acknowledging is that money at any level means more to the poor than it does to the rich. If you shrink the gap 10% for example. That doesn't really mean that much at all to the rich and it doesn't sound like a lot, however on the other side that might mean you brought a lot of people above the poverty line which is good.
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im trying but I’m not following you...sorry.

It may be semantics but you cant shrink the gap....you can only increase the money at the low end. To shrink the gap the people at the top have to come down materially and the people at the bottom have to come up some insane order of magnitude (the math just doesnt work). I think if you come up with a livable wage and accept that the ultra wealthy are going to be ultra wealthy you have a better chance of making change. No one is going to take less so some else can have more if they have the power to control IF they take less. But If you have ideas that work, I would vote for you....but i just haven’t heard any. I hate the thought of socialism but Bernie had the best plan or Andrew Yang for the working man...and neither got any support from the left. Biden is trump lite when it comes to economic plans for the low middle class. The only area where they Truly differ is how they treat the wealthy....but even that is a shell game.
 
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