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Now before Avengers 4
 
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The Russo's have delivered 3 films much better than either Guardians movies.

But they might be getting burned out so I don't expect them to take over.

But I hated what Watiti did with Thor 3. It's th best in the Thor trilogy but it fixed what was broken and broke what didn't need to be fixed. That dry unfunny humor.

While I agree the Russo movies are better than the Gunn movies, I wouldn't want to see a Russo GotG. The good thing about the MCU is that every series has its own flavor. I'm not saying Gunn is irreplaceable, but I don't think Marvel's next move is as easy as getting one of the directors from their other franchises.
 
While I agree the Russo movies are better than the Gunn movies, I wouldn't want to see a Russo GotG. The good thing about the MCU is that every series has its own flavor. I'm not saying Gunn is irreplaceable, but I don't think Marvel's next move is as easy as getting one of the directors from their other franchises.
When it's all said and done the Russo's will have two very different Captain America movies and two Avengers movies, one of which spent a good amount of time in space.

Tell me one thing the Gunn did with gotg that the Russo's haven't.
 
When it's all said and done the Russo's will have two very different Captain America movies and two Avengers movies, one of which spent a good amount of time in space.

Tell me one thing the Gunn did with gotg that the Russo's haven't.

The Russos movies are basically the most serious in the MCU and have the darkest tones. The GotG movies are pretty much the polar opposites. Even when you look at IW, the Russos weren't really responsible for the GotG writing. They brought Gunn in for that. Again, I like the Russo work more than Gunn's in the MCU, but nothing the Russos have done in the MCU would lead me to believe they'd be the right guys to replace Gunn.
 
With the events of Infinity War I think the Russo’s are the perfect choice. The final movie should be a little more serious in tone with Gamora probably being dead and not going to be resurrected in Avengers 4
 
With the events of Infinity War I think the Russo’s are the perfect choice. The final movie should be a little more serious in tone with Gamora probably being dead and not going to be resurrected in Avengers 4

I'd actually agree with that, especially if they are introducing Adam Warlock and addressing what happened in the Avengers movies. That said, if it actually is the last GotG movie, some might not like a radical change in tone.
 
I'd actually agree with that, especially if they are introducing Adam Warlock and addressing what happened in the Avengers movies. That said, if it actually is the last GotG movie, some might not like a radical change in tone.

I’m sure there will be jokes. After all it’s Marvel but I know there’s gonna be a period of mourning. Drax can’t be cracking jokes in that moment
 
Galacticus in avengers 4? Just saw this YouTube link but I'm at work and shit so I can't watch it.

 
Galacticus in avengers 4? Just saw this YouTube link but I'm at work and shit so I can't watch it.


What he’s saying is that there was a Galactus Easter egg in GOTG, where they showed his face, and in the event they got the F4 rights they could always go back and reference it, but if not it could just be there just for the sake of it. He’s speculating about Galustus being in Avengers 4.
 
What he’s saying is that there was a Galactus Easter egg in GOTG, where they showed his face, and in the event they got the F4 rights they could always go back and reference it, but if not it could just be there just for the sake of it. He’s speculating about Galustus being in Avengers 4.

Word. Thanks.
 
Galacticus in avengers 4? Just saw this YouTube link but I'm at work and shit so I can't watch it.



Shit seems like a hell of a reach, but who knows? I seriously doubt Galactus makes an appearance in Avengers 4 though. They may tease him or something, but that movie is basically done and they are still working through legal shit with regards to the FOX deal. They confirmed a while back that even if the deal went through, it would be a while before we saw the results of it.
 
The production of the next two X-Men movies, Dark Phoenix and The New Mutants has looked very cloudy, with both movies being pushed back significantly in order for them to receive reshoots. Unfortunately for X-Men fans, a new report has surfaced claiming that Disney and FOX plan to completely scrap these projects as the damage may be irreparable.

While a couple of Fox's more recent Marvel movies have been rather successful and high quality, specifically the Deadpool movies, the rest of their Marvel flicks have not been met with open arms. The 2015 Fantastic Four was an utter disappointment, X-Men: Apocalypse was a huge step down from Days of Future Past, and their next two movies may be following in the same path.

The New Mutants was originally slated to release earlier this year, and even had a trailer released back in 2017. However, after Fox reportedly deemed the final cut of the movie "boring" and "unwatchable," they ordered extensive reshoots that pushed the release date until August 2019, making a nearly year and a half difference between the two release dates. According to a recent report, the issue with New Mutants came from director Josh Boone and how he adapted the movie.

According to the report, Fox initially wanted the movie to be set primarily in the X-Mansion, being based directly on the comics. It even had a final battle against a Sentinel during the third act, which feels just like an X-Men comic book. However, Josh Boone came to them with a rather different vision carrying a significantly darker tone which they decided to follow. Now, FOX is apparently upset with their decision to follow Boone's vision and are desperately attempting to reshoot accordingly.

Other issues surfaced with the production of The New Mutants as the cast has been noticeably unhappy. Actress Anya Taylor-Joy, who plays Magik, reportedly did not get along well with another cast member. Additionally, it's understandable that the rest of the cast would be uptight as the movie has been in and out of production for over a year now, which is much longer than what they initially signed on for.

While we don't have as detailed of a report on X-Men: Dark Phoenix, we can imagine that the sequel is in the same boat. According to the report, Fox is now considering just scrapping the two projects, and the Fox-Disney merger isn't helping much. Apparently, Disney is starting to become more active in the decisions at FOX and are just as displeased with the two X-Men as the rest of the Fox executives. It would seem that if Fox doesn't cut their losses on X-Men: Dark Phoeni} and The New Mutants, then Disney will do it for them when they take over. Disney will want to integrate the X-Men franchise into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and it would be difficult to do that successfully if X-Men: Dark Phoenix and The New Mutants were absolute bombs.

This report came from Superhero Hype by a user who has been deemed reliable, but it should still be taken with a grain of Thanos dust. Fox does indeed cancel the next two X-Men movies, they will essentially be tossing out hundreds of millions of dollars. Only time will tell if we'll ever get the chance to see X-Men: Dark Phoenix or The New Mutants hit theaters, but at the moment, it's not looking too likely.

https://movieweb.com/x-men-dark-phoenix-new-mutants-canceled-fox/
 
If some rumors are to believed, the shareholder votes on Disney acquiring Fox's assets will see X-Men: Dark Phoenix and New Mutants canceled. However, that isn't actually the case, with recent speculation being just that.

Directed by long-time X-Men producer Simon Kinberg, X-Men: Dark Phoenixis the next entry in the main mutant series, picking up with the McAvoy/Fassbender prequel team in the 1990s for a readaptation of the famed Dark Phoenix Saga (previously attempted on the big screen in 2006's X-Men: The Last Stand). It was originally set for a November 2018 release but in March of this year was pushed back to February 2019, reportedly due to reshoots delayed by actor schedules. New Mutants is a horror-tinged X-Men spinoff directed by Josh Boone that follows a group of powered youths in a haunted hospital. Its release date has changed twice, first from April 2018 to February 2019, then when Dark Phoenix moved to August 2019. Again, reshoots (to adjust the tone and add in a new character) were the cited reason.

Recently, rumors have swirled that, among other things, both X-Men: Dark Phoenix and New Mutants are proving to be production nightmares with disastrous test screenings, and that Fox are planning to cancel them both outright. Before going any further, there's a major red flag here: there is no verifiable source. Everything being discussed is just hearsay from an unvetted message board user (from The SuperHeroHype forum) who claims to have worked on New Mutants since before Boone took the director's chair (but with no proof provided). It's been alleged that because these message boards have moderators, this makes this information more trustworthy, but that's not how the internet works. With what is essentially a "friend of a friend" source, there's nothing to connect the cancelation rumors or talk of no Gambit and X-Force being titled Deadpool 3: X-Force to what's really going on at Fox.

It doesn't take an unreliable source for something to feel off about these rumors, though. The very question of dumping two movies that between them likely cost north of $300 million to produce is a suicidal proposition; that's a massive loss that would not be even partially made back now or in the future that could subsequently cause serious problems with investors. The delays and reshoots indicate the projects need some work, sure, but to not release at all isn't how Hollywood addresses these sort of problems. The lack of trailer for X-Men: Dark Phoenix may pique some people's interest, but with a February release that's not too surprising. The same goes for an absence at San Diego Comic-Con; Fox put their focus on impending release The Predator, just as they did Kingsman: The Golden Circle last year in lieu of Deadpool 2 (and New Mutants).

The defining issue, though, comes with the impending purchase of 20th Century Fox by Disney. Should it (as expected) go through, the X-Men, Fantastic Four and all affiliated characters go to Marvel Studios, thus allowing mutants et al to finally appear in the MCU. This had some fans questioning what would happen to X-Men: Dark Phoenix and New Mutantsfrom the moment they were delayed to 2019, and subsequently fuels this new rumor: it's alleged the decision to cancel comes from the Mouse House.

Frankly, supposition doesn't matter in this area because, legally, it just can't be done; until the ink is dry, both companies are legally obligated to continue as normal. That means Fox can't be making moves for dissolution and Disney cannot interfere with Fox's output (this is also why you shouldn't expect the X-Men to appear in the MCU at all until 2021 at the earliest). These rumors that X-Men: Dark Phoenix and New Mutants are canceled directly imply that there has been Disney involvement at Fox, something that could damage the overall purchase.

If either or both of these X-Men movies were to be canceled (or, to be more accurate, put on hold indefinitely) it would certainly be a major blow to Fox and/or Disney (that $300 million net loss wouldn't be wiped in the transaction). But there is nothing beyond rogue rumors from unverifiable sources to go on, so this one should be put to bed.

https://screenrant.com/x-men-dark-phoenix-new-mutants-canceled-rumors/amp/
 
I hope they do scrap those movies. It will mean lost money for someone, but I don't see how continuing on with those movies will do anything but hurt plans to integrate the X-men into the MCU. Now if they don't want to do that and want to keep the X-men in its own universe but with MCU like creative control, I'd be cool with that.
 
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